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Upgrade RCWS for PNS Jurrat

Seen here at NAVDEX Pakistan Navy on board the missile-armed fast attack craft PNS is Jurrat Aselsan STOP 25mm Stabilised's remote-control small-caliber gun.

Recently fitted as a replacement for the manual twin 25mm mounting Previously we Jurrat installed, the mounting STOP Incorporates year electro-optical director onmount for target acquisition and tracking.

STOP has-been developed by Aselsan (Stand 05-A20) to meet navies' requirements for defensive firepower against a closein ranks of air and surface targets.

Able to accept a variety of 20mm, 25mm and 30mm cannon, the non-penetrating, two-axis turret mounting Stabilised has-been designed to enable simple installation and integration.

The independent electro-optical sight, integrated into the turret assembly, Provides for fully automatic target detection and tracking. It can function in a également monitoring mode (without aiming the gun).

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STOP right now - IDEX 2013 | IHS Jane's

is PNS Jurrat created by Pakistan Navy themselves??
If not which type is it??
Is PNS Azmat a FAC??

P3C and P-8i are comparable aircrafts or not??
can P-8i fire harpoons missiles???

both can fire harpoons...
P3 is not comparable to P-8I but PNs P3-3 upgraded version is comparable to P-8Is 1st block.....:coffee:
 
is our navy have any plans to buy any aircraft carrier similar to the ins viraat?

you ok dear??:blink:
no we don't need aircraft carrier...
and we don't have money...
if we will have there are many pending plans i.e aquiring of 2-3 destroyers,5-6 submarines,some covettes maybe and replace naval fighter/bomber squadron....

Hi guys,
Do we have some sort of Navy Aviation arm now?Or some Squadrons are tasked to help Navy during war?

a member with nearly 8000 post is asking yhis??:unsure::what::blink:
 
did we aquired agosta TOT to build only three boats?????

yeah!!
you are absolutely right!:):agree:
well because of scorpion deal by IN ,PN now will not build Agosta as scorpion is more advanced than this..
PN will surely go for any other platform now....
our recourses don't allow us to built more subs....:nono:
 
I was wondering that why Pakistan doesn't have any landing crafts. Every functional navy across the world whether how small or large has got some in its inventory.
 
I was wondering that why Pakistan doesn't have any landing crafts. Every functional navy across the world whether how small or large has got some in its inventory.

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Pakistan Marines have Em.....
and PN don't have such doctrine to land infantry by sea.....
i suppose Special Service group of Navy will have em of some kind.....or maybe they have speed boats...:coffee:
Pakistan Navy have Griffon 200 air cushioned landing craft...
and maybe type 724...
www.outflankers.com/air-cushion-landing-craft/
 
Just a question that came to my mind, I read that 3 of the Type-21s are armed with Harpoons and other 3 are armed with LY-60 SAM. So how would Type-21s usually operate in a wartime scenario. Do they usually work in formations of two, where one ship provides SAM cover and other provides anti ship capability?
 
What at moment Pakistan Navy has is Scheiße (Bull ****). They have three good Agost 90 B Submarines but lack in numbers, Four good F-22P Frigrates with very very shrot range FM-90 air defence missle system which make F.22P vulnerable (sorry to say but this is fact), Azmat class missle boats are good green water sytem also at moment lack in numbers. 23 mm gun on Azmat class missle boat is automatic but no radar and IR/Optical sensors are coupled with gun. Pakistan Navy do not have blue water fast speed boats for antisubmarine role to assist Frigrates and destroyers. In future no serious plan to have destroyers. No serious plan to have air defence missle system against air attack and in future to counter curise missle attack on naval bases and oil refineries and sea ports. Navy marine corps has just Mistral and Bofors RBS.70, good but not enough, marine corps lack helicopters to transport marine in case of conflict with india. They have not learnt lesson their PC.3 remain air born without suport of fighter jets. India taught us lesson in 1999 in atlantic incident, but pakistan navy didnt learn as usual.
 
I was wondering that why Pakistan doesn't have any landing crafts. Every functional navy across the world whether how small or large has got some in its inventory.

which country r we invading from sea?

What at moment Pakistan Navy has is Scheiße (Bull ****). They have three good Agost 90 B Submarines but lack in numbers, Four good F-22P Frigrates with very very shrot range FM-90 air defence missle system which make F.22P vulnerable (sorry to say but this is fact), Azmat class missle boats are good green water sytem also at moment lack in numbers. 23 mm gun on Azmat class missle boat is automatic but no radar and IR/Optical sensors are coupled with gun. Pakistan Navy do not have blue water fast speed boats for antisubmarine role to assist Frigrates and destroyers. In future no serious plan to have destroyers. No serious plan to have air defence missle system against air attack and in future to counter curise missle attack on naval bases and oil refineries and sea ports. Navy marine corps has just Mistral and Bofors RBS.70, good but not enough, marine corps lack helicopters to transport marine in case of conflict with india. They have not learnt lesson their PC.3 remain air born without suport of fighter jets. India taught us lesson in 1999 in atlantic incident, but pakistan navy didnt learn as usual.

so what do u think - how much $$$ are required for your wish list which suggests that PN should be a blue water navy.
 
Sound Surveillance System (SOSUS)
The SOund SUrveillance System (SOSUS) provides deep-water long-range detection capability. SOSUS enjoyed tremendous success during the Cold War tracking submarines by their faint acoustic signals. SOSUS consists of high-gain long fixed arrays in the deep ocean basins
BEAM accesses form beams from multiple hydrophone arrays trained on the seafloor to provide signal gain obtained through beam forming.
PHONE accesses individual hydrophones from arrays throughout the oceans provides omni-directional coverage.
With the advent of submarine warfare and it's impact on Allied forces and supply lines in WWII, the need for timely detection of undersea threats was made a high priority in Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW). As technology of the time progressed, it was recognized that shore-based monitoring stations were the answer to the problem since they could be made basically impervious to destruction, foul weather, and ambient self-generated noise. Since the early 1950s the Atlantic and Pacific oceans have been under the vigilence of SOSUS, with long acoustic sensors (hydrophones) installed across the ocean bottom at key locations. SOSUS has transitioned from single-beam paper displays to computer-based workstations for acoustic data analysis. By the end of FY 1998, the Shore Signal Information Processing Segment (SSIPS) and Surveillance Direction System (SDS) had been installed at all shore facilities, giving SOSUS a common equipment configuration and significantly reducing system infrastructure support costs.
With the development of quieter submarines and counter-tactics to evade SOSUS, newer technologies have been implemented over the years to "keep up with the threat". Faster processors, higher capacity storage devices, and "cleaner code" has enabled the advancement of the art of locating undersea threats. Currently, the Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS) uses all of these advancements in the Fixed Surveillance System (FSS), Fixed Distributed System (FDS), and the Advanced Deployable System (ADS).
SOSUS Arrays are being placed in a standby status in which the data is available but not continuously monitored. In the event of a resurgence in the global submarine threat the worldwide network of fixed undersea surveillance systems such as the Sound Surveillance System (SOSUS) a critical asset. Since the end of the Cold War, Reservists have been increasing their role in this mission area. In a recent report, entitled The Future Naval Reserve: Roles & Missions, Size & Shape, the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs stated that "expanding Reserve Component participation in this area would help protect the capital investment and maintain the infrastructure in peacetime for a potential resurgent undersea threat." This report also notes that, in the absence of a global threat, Reservists are helping to meet today's more limited surveillance needs while training for the future.
The deployment and maintenance of the undersea components of the IUSS shore systems is accomplished by technicians and engineers operating from IUSS Cable Support Ships.
Under operational command of the U.S. Navy's Commander Undersea Surveillance (CUS) IUSS shore systems are staffed and operated by uniformed U.S. Navy personnel. System life cycle and engineering support is provided by carreer civil servants (NISE East Code 341) and contractor personnel located at the IUSS Operations Support Center (IOSC).


Sound Surveillance System (SOSUS)

I have some questions about this system.

1. Have Chinese developed or are developing a similar system?
2. Should Pakistan Navy have something like that, as we have a relatively small area of sea interests. We can develop an effective underwater system, which will be a real asset for us against our arch rival.

Thanks in advance.
 
2. Should Pakistan Navy have something like that, as we have a relatively small area of sea interests. We can develop an effective underwater system, which will be a real asset for us against our arch rival.



Excellent, yes I hope Pak Navy will use this technology - this will be an asset against any adversary
 
What at moment Pakistan Navy has is Scheiße (Bull ****). They have three good Agost 90 B Submarines but lack in numbers, Four good F-22P Frigrates with very very shrot range FM-90 air defence missle system which make F.22P vulnerable (sorry to say but this is fact), Azmat class missle boats are good green water sytem also at moment lack in numbers. 23 mm gun on Azmat class missle boat is automatic but no radar and IR/Optical sensors are coupled with gun. Pakistan Navy do not have blue water fast speed boats for antisubmarine role to assist Frigrates and destroyers. In future no serious plan to have destroyers. No serious plan to have air defence missle system against air attack and in future to counter curise missle attack on naval bases and oil refineries and sea ports. Navy marine corps has just Mistral and Bofors RBS.70, good but not enough, marine corps lack helicopters to transport marine in case of conflict with india. They have not learnt lesson their PC.3 remain air born without suport of fighter jets. India taught us lesson in 1999 in atlantic incident, but pakistan navy didnt learn as usual.

rockra rockra....moneyyyyyyy $$$$$$$$$
provide PN money and they will also buy some aircraft carriers on your wish and also transform into blue water navy if you will wish them to...Just provide them funds..:yu:
 
hey guys there is an antisubmarine weapon developed by gids SEA SURGE.what is this weapon?some kind of a depth charge??:confused:
 
Post by Niaz: "There were lot of discussions, but fizzled out due to lack of funds"



They were not fizzled out due lack of funds, rather it was the political will which was non-existant. The navy had all things finalized until the Government called it off.
 
I heard that plan of having 4 corvettes by PN is on board...
Will these pe Milgem class or Chinese one??
PN seems intrested in Turkish one and plan is to built 3 of them at home. :cheers:
but i suppose a long wait is waiting for the deal to be signed..
maybe after getting new F-22 Ps...:pop:
 
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