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PK needs an industrial base to get into such ventures. govt. sponsored projects are limited in their expertise and capacity. the real strength will come from private companies and ventures. PK for the moment dosnt have any.
As it stands today, the government is the best suited in Pakistan to push forward with such industrial initiatives, no one else comes close to mobilizing the requisite resources (not to mention getting past the bureaucracy). We just need a sincere government!
 
Just like the Army is try its best to get all those 13000 MRAP and also 600++ Humvees from Jordan which US can buy from Pak side.

PN should try to get 12-14 OHPs with upgrade plan from US along with some additional P-3Cs to make a fleet of 21 of them:
15 P-3Cs MPA
06 P-3Cs AEW&Cs

More over, they should also look towards acquiring 8-10 ex-USN Corvettes as well with upgrades.
 
Do people have any idea about what is involved a complex project such as a naval warship? We “ASSEMBLED” a French submarine and a Chinese frigate and we think that we can build a warship ab initio!

according to you Pakistan never be able to build a submarine or naval warship !!!

Then why PAF consuming their precious time in JF 17 thunder program ???
we can't build a jet engine, a reader , the avionics, the Landing gears !!!
 
according to you Pakistan never be able to build a submarine or naval warship !!!

Then why PAF consuming their precious time in JF 17 thunder program ???
we can't build a jet engine, a reader , the avionics, the Landing gears !!!
There are two aspects to this issue.

1. I honestly think Pakistan *is* capable of producing its own engine, avionics, etc. provided it is governed by a sincere leadership who generates the cash necessary to bring together the talent, technology, expertise, etc. Pakistan has the vision and resources to move forward, it just lacks the leadership and organization.

2. However, unfortunately, Pakistan is stuck in the rut of sellout politicians and indifferent generals. Without the right leadership, you can't expect Pakistan to be self-sufficient in its indigenous efforts. Who is going to foot the bill for R&D in turbofan technology and license manufacturing critical components? Not the GOP, they're too busy paying off interest to the IMF and siphoning off the remains for their own pockets. Who is going to spend 24 months to build out "China-level" ties with Brazil, South Africa, Czech Republic, Ukraine, South Korea, etc? Not our diplomats!

Let me be clear. Pakistan is fortunate to have the gifts (intellectual, physical, geo-strategic, etc) to thrive, it is just cursed with a parasitic rulers and their broken system (that lets them in). Our challenges are entirely political and social, not material (we managed to produce nuclear energy via parallel uranium and plutonium programs, for God's sake - literally!).
 

MASHA ALLAH nice video. I am sure PN is facing some minor shortages of finance which they are currently talking with GoP to over come very soon and will surely look towards JV with China on different classes of submarines. I am hoping that Pakistan would be able to bring the Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco with them in this project.

But KSA, UAE, Oman and Yemen must look towards doing JV with Germany on Platforms like:
3500 Tons SSK
1600 Tons SSK(1600-1800 Tons)
0700 Tons SSK(Coastal)
0110 Tons SSG-Sub(110-210)
Rescue Submarines
Ocean and Sea Exploration Submarines
Pipline and Fiber Optic Laying Submarines.

I am sure if they have started working now they will achieve all that within 3-5 years with Germany.
 
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FM-90N surface-to-air missile launcher
 
View attachment 23560 FM-90N surface-to-air missile launcher
It would be nice if we have designed on our own with Chinese help and some expertise from Korea and Japan and may be from EU as well.

If PN and other countries like Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco has will of an FFG/Destroyer type thing then we Pakistan along with Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco can start up a JV on Mulit mission vessels:
7000 Tons Destroyer (3 X 34 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
3500 Tons Frigate (2 X 34 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
1600 Tons Corvette (1 X 34 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
0700 Tons FAC Multi Mission (1 X 16 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
0300 Tons Small craft as well.
 
It would be nice if we have designed on our own with Chinese help and some expertise from Korea and Japan and may be from EU as well.

If PN and other countries like Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco has will of an FFG/Destroyer type thing then we Pakistan along with Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco can start up a JV on Mulit mission vessels:
7000 Tons Destroyer (3 X 34 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
3500 Tons Frigate (2 X 34 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
1600 Tons Corvette (1 X 34 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
0700 Tons FAC Multi Mission (1 X 16 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
0300 Tons Small craft as well.
we can start JV with Iran, Iran's shipbuilding / submarine capabilities are very reliable.
I think Japan can't export / share defense technology or hardware to foreign countries because their Law restricted .
 
we can start JV with Iran, Iran's shipbuilding / submarine capabilities are very reliable.
I think Japan can't export / share defense technology or hardware to foreign countries because their Law restricted .
joint venture with iran is not possible due to usa sanctions and 1.5 billions $$$$$$$$$$$

It would be nice if we have designed on our own with Chinese help and some expertise from Korea and Japan and may be from EU as well.

If PN and other countries like Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco has will of an FFG/Destroyer type thing then we Pakistan along with Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco can start up a JV on Mulit mission vessels:
7000 Tons Destroyer (3 X 34 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
3500 Tons Frigate (2 X 34 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
1600 Tons Corvette (1 X 34 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
0700 Tons FAC Multi Mission (1 X 16 Cell VLS based Launcher for Anti Aircraft and Anit Ship Cruise Missile)
0300 Tons Small craft as well.
muslim countries never cooperate with us old hobby
 
Just like the Army is try its best to get all those 13000 MRAP and also 600++ Humvees from Jordan which US can buy from Pak side.

PN should try to get 12-14 OHPs with upgrade plan from US along with some additional P-3Cs to make a fleet of 21 of them:
15 P-3Cs MPA
06 P-3Cs AEW&Cs

More over, they should also look towards acquiring 8-10 ex-USN Corvettes as well with upgrades.


why you always expect unrealistic number ? what will you do with 13000 mrap and pakistan is not only country need OHP from US .:crazy:
 
joint venture with iran is not possible due to usa sanctions and 1.5 billions $$$$$$$$$$$
scenario has been totally changed,
now Iran has been out from the list of Axis of evil
The Name of Iran very soon will be entered in the Blue-Eyed Countries.
Iran will be free to start JV with any country.
 
scenario has been totally changed,
now Iran has been out from the list of Axis of evil
The Name of Iran very soon will be entered in the Blue-Eyed Countries.
Iran will be free to start JV with any country.
But dear saudis will unhappy
 

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