Pakistan Must Stop Legitimising Barbarity Under The Guise Of Blasphemy Law

[Hell hound]

What part of cia/raw involvement in the decade of terrorism doesnt get inside ur thick head?????, where was this mess as u call it pre 9/11????, o bhai goray se azadi le le the lakhon janen de kar, ab phir tum hamen aus ke order ka ghulam banana chahte ho??, masla kya hai tumahra???, keep ur minority heat in ur pants, if ur description of modern world is lesbos and chokray baazi than visit pe

bhai har cheez cia raw nahi hoti bahir a joa in sab say ab yar.main na kisi gorey ki ghulami kar raha hon na hi us say thakhuwa lay raha hon ek sacha pakistani hon apni kom ka hasta khelta or taraqi karta dekhna chata hon.or yeah bhi achey say janta hon jab tak esay log or qanon hain hum 1100 AD say bahir nahi aney waley.in ko aqal or mat denay ka keh raha hon kia bura kar raha hon.

 

[El Sidd]

It's okay. Kill all the Ahmedis and declare war on Israel. If Pakistan, as a sovereign nation, wants to do so, nobody should stop them.

nobody can stop Pakistan if it decides to do anything as ONE Nation.

But no we respect out Ahmadi community as they have been steadfast Pakistanis no matter what the abuse they get from crazy people.

and Pakistan does not recognize Israel because it has nothing to do with Israel.

but ofcourse... dictator made laws should go... these are the laws which actually made problems for Nawaz Sharif and hamper corruption the holy grail of a Pakistani politician.

 

[Awan68]

I am literally preplexed by the utter stupidity of some wana be philosophers, okaylets finish the law for theft, murder, corruption etc just because a few cases were decided wrongly, bc dunya men log law men zyada transperacy ke bat karty hen, idhr log siray se law he khatam kar dena chahte hen......yeh minorities na karen na blasphemey agar inhen itna hai masla hai to, hurting the sentiments of the majority of a nations population has reprecussion, bottom line and by the way poland men ajkal far right groups in thousands roads pe muslims aur jews ke ethinic cleansing demand kar rhe hen n their govt is supporting them, france men muslims ke public men namaz parhny tak pe aun bc ko masla ho rha hai, yeh hai tumhara modern world, hum ne yahan par har kism ke mazhabi azadi de hue hai minorities ko, abhi hazaron sikh ho kar gaehen idhr se with all the freedom and facilitation, bas sirf itna kehthe hen ke dont abuse our religion, agar nhn kharish mathi kar sakte to mery L be beth ke gallows tak jaen...

 

[VCheng]

nobody can stop Pakistan if it decides to do anything as ONE Nation.

But no we respect out Ahmadi community as they have been steadfast Pakistanis no matter what the abuse they get from crazy people.

and Pakistan does not recognize Israel because it has nothing to do with Israel.

but ofcourse... dictator made laws should go... these are the laws which actually made problems for Nawaz Sharif and hamper corruption the holy grail of a Pakistani politician.

The laws should codify the wishes of the people as they want them, plain and simple. If they want to keep the blasphemy law, then it is their right.

 

[El Sidd]

bhai har cheez cia raw nahi hoti bahir a joa in sab say ab yar.main na kisi gorey ki ghulami kar raha hon na hi us say thakhuwa lay raha hon ek sacha pakistani hon apni kom ka hasta khelta or taraqi karta dekhna chata hon.or yeah bhi achey say janta hon jab tak esay log or qanon hain hum 1100 AD say bahir nahi aney waley.in ko aqal or mat denay ka keh raha hon kia bura kar raha hon.

ye jo apne seekh lia haina 1100 AD 700AD ispe kabhi ghor karlena janab kisne ye famous kia hai or 12 sadi or 7 sadi me hua kia tha. ye jo cheekhte hain aap 7 century AD me or patharon kay daur me ye kisko tana dene ki koshish hoti hai kabhi socha hai?

laws society kay masail dekh kar banae jatay hain. apki society karo kari bacha bazi or revenge rape duniya me promote kar rahi hai uska apko nahi khayal. khayal sirf ye hai kay naam nahinda chaar shiq jo chand logon kay mafaad me hai usse khatam kiya jaye.

ye jo aap sache dil se Pakistani bane huay hain utne hi sache dil se Bharati bhi hote aap agar gaon apka 10 km east pe hota.

aap koi political party dhond layn jo apkay ye nuqaat parliament me uthae or debate kay baad qanoonsazi karle.. 73 me yahi hua tha 97 percent logon per takfir hui thi jiske baad qanoon ban gaya tha.. aap dobara try krlen.. shortcut or chalaakiyan nahi chalengi.. Danish school me parh kar bohat se daanishmand bhatak rahe hai berozgar sarkon pe unse madad lelen or ye terrorist arahe hai or sab doob rahe hain sab aag lagi hui hai... ye jinka kaam hai unko karne de kisi desi kay moun se acha nahi lagta jab badshahi masjid kay within 2 kms mujre hote hain.. saqaafti mujre..

 

[Jungibaaz]

Firstly, I'll gloss over the blasphemy law itself. But I'd rather take this thread as an opportunity to briefly discuss the whole constitutions as opposed to this one minor law. There are probably a few different positions one can take with regards to this law. I personally am not in favour of policing morality, and especially not making immorality punishable by such harsh punitive measures.

Even so, the first level at which one might criticise the current situation (and not specifically the law), is one I think we can all agree on. Mob rule is never legitimate, and any case of blasphemy where due process of law has been usurped is unacceptable. The second position is probably regarding the current form of the law, and any issues of jurisprudence regarding blasphemy. We can debate about whether a witness ought to be sufficient, about how other motives might drive a conviction, targeting of minorities, and the severity of it. I'd go as far as this second position. The last position is those who are totally opposed to any blasphemy law, policing of morality, against forms of protection of religious sentiment and advocates of a high degree of freedom of expression. I personally don't take this stance for Pakistan, it is an Islamic Republic, and this position is detached from the current reality of Pakistan.

However, with that said, blasphemy law is only a minor issue that is related to larger problems we face. There are FAR more pressing matters that are related to the blasphemy law that we should focus our efforts on. Mob rule in enforcement of blasphemy is the result of a lack of law order, an uneducated society etc. The existence of certain aspects of the current constitution are questionable. In my opinion, there ought to be a new constitution that should be developed, or at least this one requires major reform.

Reform isn't easy of course, and a new constitution is even harder. The first and hardest step would be to consolidate enough political credibility. Which ironically, in my opinion was lacking when this constitution was drawn up in the first. And even after it was drawn up, it became a political system misused by Zia, I take as much issue to radicalism he placed therein as I take issue with what he did it for. Zia, didn't use Islam at a state level because he was a pious man, he did it to legitimise himself and for political power. That's only one aspect to consider though.

 

[El Sidd]

The laws should codify the wishes of the people as they want them, plain and simple. If they want to keep the blasphemy law, then it is their right.

laws are never a problem for Pakistan.
they are not fairly implemented and that just gives further wind to the rebellious kids playing video games

 

[Imran Khan]

impossible in mullah land

 

[Hell hound]

I am literally preplexed by the utter stupidity of some wana be philosophers, okaylets finish the law for theft, murder, corruption etc just because a few cases were decided wrongly, bc dunya men log law men zyada transperacy ke bat karty hen, idhr log siray se law he khatam kar dena chahte hen......yeh minorities na karen na blasphemey agar inhen itna hai masla hai to, hurting the sentiments of the majority of a nations population has reprecussion, bottom line and by the way poland men ajkal far right groups in thousands roads pe muslims aur jews ke ethinic cleansing demand kar rhe hen n their govt is supporting them, france men muslims ke public men namaz parhny gak pe aun bc ko masla ho rha hai, hum ne yahan oar har kism ke mazhabi azadi de hue hai minorities ko, bas sirf itna kehthe hen ke dont abuse our religion, agar nhn kharish mathi kar sakte to mery L be beth ke gallows tak jaen...

sara jhan pagal ho ga to kya tum bhi pagal ho jao gay.or bat itni si nahi hay na mera khud ka taluq gojrey say hay or meine dekha tha kay wahan ki minority pay kesay charhai ki thi muslims nay.bat yahan qanon ki kam or hamrey degh main bharey fator ki ziyda hay.jiss ko har cheez tohin lagti hay.kyu kay kabhi kisi sanki mullah nay asa bataya tha.
tumhey lagta hay kay humarey muslims ko siraf blaspheme pay hi taklef hoti hay to phir yeah bato yeah jash e Muhammad waley sipah sahaba walon ko kis cheez ka dora hay shia or hazara kay logon nay kon si toheen ki hay. bhai man lo bat yahan logon kay demagh main mullah nay nafarat esy kot kot kay bhar di hay jis ka koi hisab nahi.har fiqey ko dosrey say masla or nafrat kyu.siraf is laye kay woh namaz thorey mukhtalif andaz main parhtey hain is laye ya phir woh ek sahba ko chor kay dosrey say ziyda piyar karety haim.

 

[Awan68]

bhai har cheez cia raw nahi hoti bahir a joa in sab say ab yar.main na kisi gorey ki ghulami kar raha hon na hi us say thakhuwa lay raha hon ek sacha pakistani hon apni kom ka hasta khelta or taraqi karta dekhna chata hon.or yeah bhi achey say janta hon jab tak esay log or qanon hain hum 1100 AD say bahir nahi aney waley.in ko aqal or mat denay ka keh raha hon kia bura kar raha hon.

O bholy badshah, poori dunya ke samny isis ko deal ke bahany bhaga diya syria se amreeka ne aur ap ab bhi kehte ho har cheez cia nhn hoti, ab ap ka kya kare banda agar ap ne apni ankhen zabardasti band kiye rakhni hain kyun ke ap ke zehn men yeh chip feed hue hue hai ke its not cool to be a muslim anymore, chakar sara yehi hi bhai reflect on urself lol, afghanistan se uzbik mercaneries ko darhi rakwa kar idhr bheej dete the aur ap islam ko latarna shurun kar dete ho, aur yeh 1100 ad shedi mjhe na btao bhai, murica 1100 ad se bhi porani philosophy pe chalta hai, remember the roman empire?, dear murica is spitting image of it, its nothing but a superpower imposing its will upon the rest of the world, its all economics and for that to succeed yeh log local ideologies jo logon ko unite karte hen aun ko attack karte hen sab se pehly taky their will can be easily imposed, ab ap ko kya samjhae banda.....

 

[Zibago]

They only propogate democracy when it suits them, rest of the time they keep demanding minority views imposed on majority, their mindset is pure extremist and tyranical

There is a difference between democracy and mob rule

 

[Verve]

The U.S. hasn't experienced anything like the series of murders the article describes for decades.

Nah, in USA one white man kills more in a single go than total murdered with blasphemy as an excuse. Actually a mad student of school going age has killed more.

 

[Zibago]

The supporters of blasphemy law

@Musafir117

 

[Awan68]

There is a difference between democracy and mob rule

Law was made through democracy not mob rule, go fetch....

 

[Zibago]

You are free to think whatever you want.. The fact remains that we as a nation have become insanely radicalised.... And it has put the very survival of Pakistani nation at stake.... "Effective deradicalization" should be the top priority

We need Rad-X or Rad-Away
@Hell hound