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Pakistan Middle Class Bigger & Wealthier Than Indian Middle Class

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The one wearing brown clothes?
nope, he's not in any of the pics.. this was after the ceremony had concluded and I was just looking over the pavilion.

really old guy, of pre partition vintage, wonder what he was thinking, whatever it was, it wasn't nasty.
 
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Do agree .as my father's cousins live in delhi and my grandfather move to Pak with 200 rs only . now we are way richer thn them.

its the same story in every family who moved to Pakistan after partition, it has to do with discrimination muslims face in India.
 
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Google about Indus valley civilization.thanks
India actually means land of Indus (Indus river). Basically India should be called Hindustan or Bahrat like it use too before British arrival. Calling Bharat "India" make no sense since there is no Indus river in Bharat. :sarcastic:
 
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Dude, nobody is arguing IVC sites are found in present day Pakistan, but what was present day Pakistan called 80 years ago? And what did the ancient explorers call this place?? Vasco da gama came to search the sea route to India, not Pakistan. The land has been partitioned, not our claim to the civilization.
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you are such an idiot you dont even know the civilization is, you from Calcutta have claims over Indus civilization now! because that land was once part of India..this is same as Turkish claiming Egyptian civilizations.
 
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India actually means land of Indus (Indus river). Basically India should be called Hindustan or Bahrat like it use too before British arrival. Calling Bharat "India" make no sense since there is no Indus river in Bharat. :sarcastic:
Just because a part of India got separated doesn't mean we have to change our name. And yes, as per our constitution, India is officially named as Bharat.

And FYI, the Indus river, or Sindhu as we call it originates from India.

you are such an idiot you dont even know the civilization is, you from Calcutta have claims over Indus civilization now! because that land was once part of India..this is same as Turkish claiming Egyptian civilizations.

And you moron, first you decide what you are. In some forum Pakistanis claim to be descendants if Arab, they name their missiles after Afghan invaders, they sometimes call themselves turks , also have seen Pakistanis claiming they are not part of south Asia. And suddenly in this forum, people say Pakistanis wrote the Vedas. You sure about your ancestors?
 
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oh dear do you even know that not the modern india but instead pakistan is the true successor state of ancient INDIA?

Be proud of your history,i don't know why you guys are after our IVC?don't you have anything better?

Lol.. buddy I am after my history only because Pakistan's own history in true sense isnt even more than 70 years old.... there is nothing called Pakistan in my history what you call your Pakistan today is nothing but a piece of land given away from "Modern India".. yes modern India. Thats the point you dont get.

Please accept the fact that the only relevance modern day Pakistan has with IVC is, that the site of discovery (so far) lies in a part of land of modern India, which was partitioned as Pakistan. Secondly.. as your fellow poster pointed out, pakistan is a nation of people who are a mixed pot of different races and converts from different religion, so ypur claim would have been true if IVC would have continued to thrive in the site of modern pakistan not destroyed completely. (in case the IVC population moved away to a different land during desstruction, then they definitely didnt go to a place called Pakistan in that age)

You being jatt cannot be indian,your by default a Pakistani.

wow..lets talk about origin now shall we ?? So me being a jatt cant be Indian??.....cool.....for a moment let me agree to your point.... Now with that logic.. what should I call you ? if you're an arab race.. then you are not a pakistani, but an arab.. if you're turk race, then aagain you're not Pakistani, if you're an European race then you're not pakistani but european.. In case your ancestors were converts from Indian then you're again not a Pakistani but an Indian...agreed?? i am saying this becuse Pakistanis keep claiming that they are not entieely Indians. but a mix pot of different races (which I agree to).

Now with the jatt logic of yours only Punjab side of Pakistan would be pakistani right (since we prove other racess are not really Pakistaanis as per your logic) ?? but again there was nothing called Pakistan even when Punjab existed... so lets call them Pujabis instead of Indians or Pakistanis. Now what race is Pakistan left with which is true Pakistani ?? None my friend. so please do not come up with these absurd logics.

Pakistan is not merely a nationality,it is a ideology and state of mind.

Ok.
 
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And you moron, first you decide what you are. In some forum Pakistanis claim to be descendants if Arab, they name their missiles after Afghan invaders, they sometimes call themselves turks , also have seen Pakistanis claiming they are not part of south Asia. And suddenly in this forum, people say Pakistanis wrote the Vedas. You sure about your ancestors?

Thats not your problem chutia, we can claim ourselves to be martian but that doesnt give you Indus, and yes we are not part of south asia, if you consider calcutta and Peshawar both part of south Asia then there is something wrong with you people who just are not so willing to let us go.

And FYI, the Indus river, or Sindhu as we call it originates from India.

correction: originates from disputed territory
Nile originate from Brunudi but they dont have a claim on that civilization
 
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True. For me this map says it all. Every Pakistan should look at this and feel sense of warm pride. Just look at it. When the entire world including the uppity Europeans were running around naked with spears in their hands and ancestors of Indian's were hanging of branches of trees naked in thick jungles of Ganga India a few chosen people on earth began the quest for civilization. We ladies and gentleman, our forefathers were one of the few - Yes what country todays sits on the Indus River Region - Harrapa? Pakistan. Yes sir, Pakistan. The others are Mesopotamia - Iraq, Nile - Egypt, Hunang Ho River region - China and Mexico etc

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This fact needs to be taught to every Pakistani child so that they can look in the eye of any people in the world. Yes, we might be underdeveloped now but we along with few gave humanity civilization and damn it we will rise again. @Shamain @farhan_9909

@Atanz , I knew you for a jingoist hyper-patriot, but not somebody capable of producing such drivel.

Are you serious about "...a few chosen people" and this: "ancestors of Indian's were hanging of branches of trees naked in thick jungles of Ganga India"? If you are, you need a history lesson, in depth.
 
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But..but .. but india was a supa powa..:woot:
 
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@Atanz , I knew you for a jingoist hyper-patriot, but not somebody capable of producing such drivel.

Are you serious about "...a few chosen people" and this: "ancestors of Indian's were hanging of branches of trees naked in thick jungles of Ganga India"? If you are, you need a history lesson, in depth.

Sir, he is entitled to his views, but the real danger comes from the many more who agree with him. Many, many more. It is better to counter such views with the correct history without a direct challenge. Truth will prevail, as always.
 
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I don't get it. Seriously. Why you guys are so shy of owning your birth civilization which is Ganges River civilization. Ganges River is central to Hindu belief and that is why people take dip and float their Ashes in it. Why try to steal another civilization? Just because it is a bit older?

But most of the tradition of Indus valley civilization points that they were very similar to Hinduism.And you din't answer my question how do you identify
 
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