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‘Pakistan made a mistake’: Criticism at home over ICJ decision : Pakistani Media

Someone made money as usual... that was the objective.

Currently the Pakistani state has no leadership- the government isn't in charge, the army isn't in charge, the sleauths are confused, the bureaucrats are demoralized or trying to make as much off corruption they can.. Middle men are bribing and making exorbitant amounts left and right , up and down, military and civil servants- all over. Profit margins of 100% average on million dollar contracts.

40% is going rate in Sindh, Punjab is 30-40%- KP is naswar, and Balochistan is everything.CPEC is on average 60% down the drain in corruption but the Chinese will get their money back + flesh based interest no matter what.

The media is running helter skelter between "experts" paid 1000-10000rs depending on topic and seniority + actual experience. In between rooh afza and upcoming ramazan program advertisements.

Finally, Pakistanis are busy sharing facebook posts, whatsapp "agar yeh forward nahin kiya tu sawab kam hoga" messages completely numb to the coming hell.

Hell isnt burning fire taught by the ignorant Mullah, its a state of perpetual decline and suffering.

To the person who referred the legal team(probably a girian or family to some government official) to the people who sold out his 20 year service in 2011 for maybe a million max in a Dubai or London account.. they made their world in their view.

But while they'll get their just desserts because death seeks them in ways the NSA cant imagine, its the rest of those that can read and understand in the 17crore Pakistanis who choose to stand by and not do anything who will really be questioned.
You chose the instagram selfie over talking and organizing a protest, you chose to ignore your power of voice and action. You chose the safety and security of your family now or used it as an excuse for your own internal laziness or apathy.
As did I.

Yadav is a completely irrelevant case in the annals of history and technically insignificant to what India has and can do. Its the mechanism of the state in all of this which is alarming.

Oh well, back to wasting my time at work. Pretending to look busy.
@MastanKhan age has caught upto me .. still, I reckon Ill have periods of nostalgia about my idealism when and if I make it to 50
sounds like you have it all figured out
 
@Irfan Baloch , my Pak brother, the heads up you brought to light are true after all!

It is exactly what you informed us with. House of Sharif has sold Pakistan!

And you and many, many soldiers like you are putting your lives on the line for Pakistan...

Sad sight. Nay, it is pathetic show of betrayal by those who should be representing Pak's National Interests.

As I have said earlier, time for indians to thank their man, Mr. Sharif!


The Gates of the Pak Fort have been swung open from inside... otherwise, no amount of indian attempts could have breached Pak Defences....

I don't expect any 'vigour' from this so-called new team. The script was decided in Murree.

So, indians start thanking Mr. Sharif for letting your spy/terrorist walk free!

Now indians have the right to brag and insult Paks... indians your man delivered results for you!!!!!! Give him your medals and your passport.

This just is beyond any words..this betrayal, this selling out of Pak nation is.

Mr. Sharif needs to see the pictures from APS. He needs to meet the parents, children and families of 90000 victims of indian terror...

Is there an afterlife?



@Max @The Sandman @Mentee @django @MastanKhan @DESERT FIGHTER @war&peace @Windjammer @IceCold @Blacklight @LA se Karachi @Mugwop @Arsalan @Rafi @maximuswarrior @PaklovesTurkiye @Areesh

My friends, I really feel dejected to see this... lives of Pak citizens can't be that cheap... deeply saddend by this open anti-Pak activities of these political parasites... till now I have never commented on Pak's internal affairs... but this is downright... TREASON.

Is there none left who can bring these corrupt parasites to justice? This has gone too far now... hell will spit out such foul flesh, these politicos..

And friends, do forgive if you feel offended by rather emotional outburst. I am sorry...but I must condemn this betrayal.
 
@Irfan Baloch , my Pak brother, the heads up you brought to light are true after all!

It is exactly what you informed us with. House of Sharif has sold Pakistan!

And you and many, many soldiers like you are putting your lives on the line for Pakistan...

Sad sight. Nay, it is pathetic show of betrayal by those who should be representing Pak's National Interests.

As I have said earlier, time for indians to thank their man, Mr. Sharif!


The Gates of the Pak Fort have been swung open from inside... otherwise, no amount of indian attempts could have breached Pak Defences....

I don't expect any 'vigour' from this so-called new team. The script was decided in Murree.

So, indians start thanking Mr. Sharif for letting your spy/terrorist walk free!

Now indians have the right to brag and insult Paks... indians your man delivered results for you!!!!!! Give him your medals and your passport.

This just is beyond any words..this betrayal, this selling out of Pak nation is.

Mr. Sharif needs to see the pictures from APS. He needs to meet the parents, children and families of 90000 victims of indian terror...

Is there an afterlife?



@Max @The Sandman @Mentee @django @MastanKhan @DESERT FIGHTER @war&peace @Windjammer @IceCold @Blacklight @LA se Karachi @Mugwop @Arsalan @Rafi @maximuswarrior @PaklovesTurkiye @Areesh

My friends, I really feel dejected to see this... lives of Pak citizens can't be that cheap... deeply saddend by this open anti-Pak activities of these political parasites... till now I have never commented on Pak's internal affairs... but this is downright... TREASON.

Is there none left who can bring these corrupt parasites to justice? This has gone too far now... hell will spit out such foul flesh, these politicos..

And friends, do forgive if you feel offended by rather emotional outburst. I am sorry...but I must condemn this betrayal.
I agree with you bro, this has been a major blunder yet deliberate blunder by NS, he suspects by this the army will be weakened, I personally think this matter will end up in security council where our time tested friend/brother China can veto any Indian attempts to enforce a resolution against Pakistan in regards to Yadav case.Kudos sir
 
Published May 18, 2017
SOURCE: DAWN

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The International Court of Justice has issued an order staying the execution of Indian spy Kulbushan Jadhav by Pakistan, a decision which has caused shock and disappointment in Pakistan.

Although Pakistani analysts were earlier confident that the ICJ does not have jurisdiction to stay Jadhav’s execution, today observers have said the jurisdiction argument was “weak” and “damaging”.

‘Pakistan made a mistake’

Justice (r) Shaiq Usmani told DawnNews the decision is alarming because “ICJ does not have jurisdiction”.

“It’s Pakistan’s mistake to have appeared there. They shouldn’t have attended. They have shot themselves in the foot.”

The retired justice says the case will continue in Pakistan. “Until the ICJ gives it verdict, the case will go on in Pakistan. But he cannot be executed until the stay order is there. The proceedings will continue here.”

He added that the 40 days of appeal as permitted by the Field General Court Martial which convicted and sentenced the Indian spy.

“I think 40 days are over and the time to appeal is over. But if they want they can accept the time. The FGCM court can extend the time if they want.”



‘Pakistan was grossly unprepared’
London-based Barrister Rashid Aslam says Pakistan was ill-prepared and did not utilise the 90 minutes it had to make its argument.

“Pakistan had 90 minutes of argument time but we wasted 40 minutes,” said Aslam. He added: “I was surprised why we finished our arguments in such little time. I think Khawar Qureshi didn’t consume all the time that was afforeded to him.”

“It is very clear, article 5 B of the Vienna Convention, that if a civilian is caught he is subject to human rights law. But if it is a spy, then human rights are forfieted. So I don’t think we presented the case quite well.”

He added: “Pakistan had the right to set up a judge there but we didn’t do that. I think Pakistan was grossly unprepared. It might be that we didn’t have enough time…”

‘Pakistan has a moral responsibility’
Analyst Zahid Hussain said the ICJ is not binding legally but morally.

“Usually, verdicts of ICJ are not binding but according to international laws, possess moral responsibility.”

He added that it cannot be said that the verdict is in India’s favour but it can be said that the court has just ordered to overturn the implementation of execution, and has refused Pakistan’s challenge of its own jurisdiction.

‘Our lawyers were inexperienced’
Former Attorney General Irfan Qadir said he is shocked by the decision.

“I think this decision is a violation of the principle of natural justice. I am shocked as to why Pakistan went there and presented their position and gave it in such a rush.”

“The lawyers handling these matters had no experience. The arguments had no weight. They should have been presented in a rational manner.”

He added that the proceedings are yet to take place but that the legal team needs to be better prepared “with an experienced legal team”.

“We need a dedicated team for Pakistan, loyal to the country. Pakistan’s jurisprudence has been ruined because of this.”

‘Pakistan’s case was weak’
Senior PPP leader Sherry Rehman said, “We based our case on jurisdiction and it proved weak. More arguments should have been made regarding espionage.”

‘Consular access is the main issue’
Lawyer Feisal Naqvi said the ultimate question is about consular access.

“The question is not whether he should be hung the questions are different. The question is; whether he can get consular access,” Naqvi said.

“It is normal that ICJ has said that we feel we might have jurisdiciton, so they have asked for a stay on execution. It is their impression that they have jurisdiction. They aren’t final about it. It happens quite often that the court first orders a stay, then examines the situation more closely before giving a verdict.”

‘Why did Pakistan agree to the Jadhav case?’
Barrister Dr Farogh A. Nasim said Pakistan should not have conceded to ICJ’s jurisdiction.

“India did not give consent to the Kashmir issue going to ICJ, then why did Pakistan give consent to the Jadhav case?”

He said that 17 years ago when Pakistan filed a case, ICJ said we do not have jurisdiction. “Today, ICJ did not accept that decision.”

There is a silver lining
According to international law expert, Taimur Malik, this is a significant decision and should not be seen as being completely adverse to Pakistan’s interests.

“The reasoning given by the ICJ keeps the doors open for Pakistan to take India to the ICJ on matters emanating from other international treaties,” he said.

“This is important also from the perspective of the on-going issues regarding the Indus Water Treaty. Moreover, the ICJ has not given a final decision against Pakistan and it is now up to Pakistan to prepare well for the next round. Furthermore, Pakistan should now avail its right to appoint an ad hoc judge of the ICJ for this specific case.”
https://www.dawn.com/news/1333924
what a photos of our advocate in vienna.... the guy in beard n glasses is a professional thug. and a fraudster. good handling of case . pakistan
 
I agree with you bro, this has been a major blunder yet deliberate blunder by NS, he suspects by this the army will be weakened, I personally think this matter will end up in security council where our time tested friend/brother China can veto any Indian attempts to enforce a resolution against Pakistan in regards to Yadav case.Kudos sir



Ah, my brother,

I care not for this ugly terrorist or his foul being... if Pak political class were loyal to Pak State then this could have been played to Pak's advantage... think Kashmir.

There are so many ways that this monsters life could have saved so many Kashmiris' lives...

But Mr. Sharif has not only insulted the 90000 victims of indian terrorism but Mr. Sharif must carry on his soul the burden of future deaths of Kashmiris and Pakistanis...

This is unacceptable.

With all my heart I condemn these sellers of Pak Nation. I know it means zero in reality...but at least I have spoken my belief.

Hell shall never accept those who profit from the flesh of human beings...

Only grief and misery awaits these thieves.. Mr. Sharif, Mr. Zardari and all of those who find themselves in this pyramid of corruption.
All your billions will never confer on you or your offsprings the happiness or joy that a free soul enjoys. Live in your eternal misery, eat the human flesh. Remain condemned!

May the Universe protect Pak.

We must let no opportunity go without condemning these parasites on Pak Nation.
 
@Irfan Baloch , my Pak brother, the heads up you brought to light are true after all!

It is exactly what you informed us with. House of Sharif has sold Pakistan!

And you and many, many soldiers like you are putting your lives on the line for Pakistan...

Sad sight. Nay, it is pathetic show of betrayal by those who should be representing Pak's National Interests.

As I have said earlier, time for indians to thank their man, Mr. Sharif!


The Gates of the Pak Fort have been swung open from inside... otherwise, no amount of indian attempts could have breached Pak Defences....

I don't expect any 'vigour' from this so-called new team. The script was decided in Murree.

So, indians start thanking Mr. Sharif for letting your spy/terrorist walk free!

Now indians have the right to brag and insult Paks... indians your man delivered results for you!!!!!! Give him your medals and your passport.

This just is beyond any words..this betrayal, this selling out of Pak nation is.

Mr. Sharif needs to see the pictures from APS. He needs to meet the parents, children and families of 90000 victims of indian terror...

Is there an afterlife?



@Max @The Sandman @Mentee @django @MastanKhan @DESERT FIGHTER @war&peace @Windjammer @IceCold @Blacklight @LA se Karachi @Mugwop @Arsalan @Rafi @maximuswarrior @PaklovesTurkiye @Areesh

My friends, I really feel dejected to see this... lives of Pak citizens can't be that cheap... deeply saddend by this open anti-Pak activities of these political parasites... till now I have never commented on Pak's internal affairs... but this is downright... TREASON.

Is there none left who can bring these corrupt parasites to justice? This has gone too far now... hell will spit out such foul flesh, these politicos..

And friends, do forgive if you feel offended by rather emotional outburst. I am sorry...but I must condemn this betrayal.

Hi,

Pakistanis deserve their leaders and politicians---.
 
Hi,

Pakistanis deserve their leaders and politicians---.


Yes, MK, people get ruled by those whom they deserve. And yes, rulers are but an image of the masses. All true...

But what does this means then...?

Shall we close shop and hand over the keys to the indians just like Mr. Sharif and Mr. Zardari?

Will that end the misery, suffering, injustice, poverty?

What can be done? Please, don't tell me there is no hope. Life can't exist without hope... I thought in your religion hopelessness was forbidden.

What can be done, MK?

Why is there death of outrage in Pak Society? Don't you have any enough high poles?

Do forgive for my outburst...not my style... but this is so blatant, so transparent TREASON...and yet there is no outrage. Why?
 
As I said before GODFATHER is a massive security threat to Pakistan, maybe he is trying to become siyasi shaheed by provoking Army takeover, first Dawn leaks and now KY, Its Pakistan utter stupidity to go ICJ in the first place, why was the letter kept secret when GODFATHER accepted ICJ back in 29th March 2017, this is darn high treason, and still you have shameless baboon's supporting GODFATHER despite his treachery.
 
Ah, my brother,

I care not for this ugly terrorist or his foul being... if Pak political class were loyal to Pak State then this could have been played to Pak's advantage... think Kashmir.

There are so many ways that this monsters life could have saved so many Kashmiris' lives...

But Mr. Sharif has not only insulted the 90000 victims of indian terrorism but Mr. Sharif must carry on his soul the burden of future deaths of Kashmiris and Pakistanis...

This is unacceptable.

With all my heart I condemn these sellers of Pak Nation. I know it means zero in reality...but at least I have spoken my belief.

Hell shall never accept those who profit from the flesh of human beings...

Only grief and misery awaits these thieves.. Mr. Sharif, Mr. Zardari and all of those who find themselves in this pyramid of corruption.
All your billions will never confer on you or your offsprings the happiness or joy that a free soul enjoys. Live in your eternal misery, eat the human flesh. Remain condemned!

May the Universe protect Pak.

We must let no opportunity go without condemning these parasites on Pak Nation.
Absolutely sir I totally concur.Kudos
 
If india was in pakistans place we would have outrightly rejected hague's authority to interfere in our internal matters of national security. We did that once successfully in 1990 even after shooting down pakistani plane.

I dont know what made pakistan accept the hagues authority, when they had the choice to reject it. May be lack of international muscle.

Now further down the road pakistan will have to spend its diplomatic resources to convince to ICJ how their military court proceeded in sentencing death verdict was in accordance to the law, and submit the relevance proofs to prove whatever they say has factions of truth in it.

If at all pakistan hangs him, defying ICJ's ruling they will have to spend their resources in UNSC to fight out the relevant sanctions, and then once again they will have to knock on the doors of china to save them once again, for which china will raise eyebrows, and needs to be seen if they are willing to mallign themselves image once again in front of world and india with whom they have positive trade deficit. Surely they will hate to see a wave of campaign by indians to pressure the govt to curb the imports from china, for the this silly hanging of civilian which btw is bilateral affair between india and pakistan.
 
@Irfan Baloch , my Pak brother, the heads up you brought to light are true after all!

It is exactly what you informed us with. House of Sharif has sold Pakistan!

And you and many, many soldiers like you are putting your lives on the line for Pakistan...

Sad sight. Nay, it is pathetic show of betrayal by those who should be representing Pak's National Interests.

As I have said earlier, time for indians to thank their man, Mr. Sharif!


The Gates of the Pak Fort have been swung open from inside... otherwise, no amount of indian attempts could have breached Pak Defences....

I don't expect any 'vigour' from this so-called new team. The script was decided in Murree.

So, indians start thanking Mr. Sharif for letting your spy/terrorist walk free!

Now indians have the right to brag and insult Paks... indians your man delivered results for you!!!!!! Give him your medals and your passport.

This just is beyond any words..this betrayal, this selling out of Pak nation is.

Mr. Sharif needs to see the pictures from APS. He needs to meet the parents, children and families of 90000 victims of indian terror...

Is there an afterlife?



@Max @The Sandman @Mentee @django @MastanKhan @DESERT FIGHTER @war&peace @Windjammer @IceCold @Blacklight @LA se Karachi @Mugwop @Arsalan @Rafi @maximuswarrior @PaklovesTurkiye @Areesh

My friends, I really feel dejected to see this... lives of Pak citizens can't be that cheap... deeply saddend by this open anti-Pak activities of these political parasites... till now I have never commented on Pak's internal affairs... but this is downright... TREASON.

Is there none left who can bring these corrupt parasites to justice? This has gone too far now... hell will spit out such foul flesh, these politicos..

And friends, do forgive if you feel offended by rather emotional outburst. I am sorry...but I must condemn this betrayal.
You're right brother this is treason...
 
@Irfan Baloch , my Pak brother, the heads up you brought to light are true after all!

It is exactly what you informed us with. House of Sharif has sold Pakistan!

And you and many, many soldiers like you are putting your lives on the line for Pakistan...

Sad sight. Nay, it is pathetic show of betrayal by those who should be representing Pak's National Interests.

As I have said earlier, time for indians to thank their man, Mr. Sharif!


The Gates of the Pak Fort have been swung open from inside... otherwise, no amount of indian attempts could have breached Pak Defences....

I don't expect any 'vigour' from this so-called new team. The script was decided in Murree.

So, indians start thanking Mr. Sharif for letting your spy/terrorist walk free!

Now indians have the right to brag and insult Paks... indians your man delivered results for you!!!!!! Give him your medals and your passport.

This just is beyond any words..this betrayal, this selling out of Pak nation is.

Mr. Sharif needs to see the pictures from APS. He needs to meet the parents, children and families of 90000 victims of indian terror...

Is there an afterlife?



@Max @The Sandman @Mentee @django @MastanKhan @DESERT FIGHTER @war&peace @Windjammer @IceCold @Blacklight @LA se Karachi @Mugwop @Arsalan @Rafi @maximuswarrior @PaklovesTurkiye @Areesh

My friends, I really feel dejected to see this... lives of Pak citizens can't be that cheap... deeply saddend by this open anti-Pak activities of these political parasites... till now I have never commented on Pak's internal affairs... but this is downright... TREASON.

Is there none left who can bring these corrupt parasites to justice? This has gone too far now... hell will spit out such foul flesh, these politicos..

And friends, do forgive if you feel offended by rather emotional outburst. I am sorry...but I must condemn this betrayal.
We deserve every bit of this. You will still find no shortage of people supporting and cheering for traitors like Nawaz Sharif and Pakistani institutions like the army and SC backing this treachery in the name of larger national interests. i just hope that China stops giving this corrupt Indian stooge the respect that they give and rather snub him on every front. This asshole should be embarrassed on every front. be it national or international.
 

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