AZADPAKISTAN2009
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Well Kalbujan is dead already and we can't have a court trial for a dead Terrorist
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well ruckus should be made when the person is still alive ! whats the use after he got hanged.I thought by all the ruckus of Indian members YJ was dead?
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So true. It was something that happened so fast, dont know in whose favour would the verdict go, however for now what you said stands true.Now, instead of Kulbhushan Jadhav being on trial, it is the Pakistani justice system which is on trial in front of the entire world ...
Bang on.
Which is why NS benefits the most.
oops wat a logic.But if it is a spy, then human rights are forfieted.
Thats right it will simply bring focus on how independent and fair judiciary is in pakistan.The objective was to deny Pakistan any moral high ground of having "nabbed" a "spy" who was engaged in sabotage/espionage/terrorism. From now on, Pakistan plays catch up. Now, instead of Kulbhushan Jadhav being on trial, it is the Pakistani justice system which is on trial in front of the entire world.
Whoever thought up this Kulbhushan scam in the first place should quietly leave Pakistan and never come back...
To have him rot in Pakistani jails for 15 plus years? Very good objective.
So as a moderator do you feel the first mistake was made in 1947 when Jinnah asked for Pakistan , as Pakistan through out its history has just jumped from crisis to crisis , coup to coup and now also all this lament for leadership is actually a reflection of looking for saviours.Someone made money as usual... that was the objective.
Currently the Pakistani state has no leadership- the government isn't in charge, the army isn't in charge, the sleauths are confused, the bureaucrats are demoralized or trying to make as much off corruption they can.. Middle men are bribing and making exorbitant amounts left and right , up and down, military and civil servants- all over. Profit margins of 100% average on million dollar contracts.
40% is going rate in Sindh, Punjab is 30-40%- KP is naswar, and Balochistan is everything.CPEC is on average 60% down the drain in corruption but the Chinese will get their money back + flesh based interest no matter what.
The media is running helter skelter between "experts" paid 1000-10000rs depending on topic and seniority + actual experience. In between rooh afza and upcoming ramazan program advertisements.
Finally, Pakistanis are busy sharing facebook posts, whatsapp "agar yeh forward nahin kiya tu sawab kam hoga" messages completely numb to the coming hell.
Hell isnt burning fire taught by the ignorant Mullah, its a state of perpetual decline and suffering.
To the person who referred the legal team(probably a girian or family to some government official) to the people who sold out his 20 year service in 2011 for maybe a million max in a Dubai or London account.. they made their world in their view.
But while they'll get their just desserts because death seeks them in ways the NSA cant imagine, its the rest of those that can read and understand in the 17crore Pakistanis who choose to stand by and not do anything who will really be questioned.
You chose the instagram selfie over talking and organizing a protest, you chose to ignore your power of voice and action. You chose the safety and security of your family now or used it as an excuse for your own internal laziness or apathy.
As did I.
Yadav is a completely irrelevant case in the annals of history and technically insignificant to what India has and can do. Its the mechanism of the state in all of this which is alarming.
Oh well, back to wasting my time at work. Pretending to look busy.
@MastanKhan age has caught upto me .. still, I reckon Ill have periods of nostalgia about my idealism when and if I make it to 50
So as a moderator do you feel the first mistake was made in 1947 when Jinnah asked for Pakistan , as Pakistan through out its history has just jumped from crisis to crisis , coup to coup and now also all this lament for leadership is actually a reflection of looking for saviours.
When actually you should be strenghtening institutions .
No one institution should dominate , rather a trustworthy judiciary ( even when takes unpopular decisions), should be the last word.
Eg trump was all hot air when he took office but a independent judiciary has punctured his extreme acts.
Jhadav is relevant as its a test case whether your army can be accuser, judge and executioner .
The only sad part for Pakistan is that India has acted to protect its citizen , but no one in Pakistan has raised a voice for more than 100 Pakistanis executed in military trials .
Now grapes are sour....
If ICJ does not have jurisdiction then why they went to court to defend?....India goes by the rule book, pakistan doesn't that why they lost the case. If Consular access provided earlier this humiliation wont happen