Pakistan Loses UN HRC Election, Thanks to Failed PMLN Foreign Policies

[I S I]

Why? Who is the government of the day in Pakistan? BJP?




Bravo! What amazing justification given! So tell your patwari Prime Minister to quit begging UN to resolve Kashmir dispute then if its such a usless 'joke'.

Why i'm even talking to a senseless person..


Next time refrain from tagging me.

 

[Farah Sohail]

More than sharif govt..it is our UN mission tht failed..they could not effectively lobby... People mostly have high regard for Maleeha Lodhi... I dont know..what much is the hype about her? People were all praise when she got selected as permanent representative to UN... But she couldnt even properly lobby for Pakistan in UN... Ambassador to UN at geneva Zamir Akram got retired, and Tehmina Janjua came at the last moment, but Maleeha Lodhi in newyork was there.. She could lobby... But she didnt lobby properly and Pakistan lost the seat which was no big deal... I dont think she ever did something of value... But got un-due praise.. ambassadors like Munir Akram and Zamir akram were distinguished diplomats.. Esp munir Akram did a lot for Pakistan's diplomacy on nuclear issues... But Maleeha Lodhi is more interested in her personal promotion than doing anything substantial ..

 

[NHUDA]

Said it Before ... Saying it Again .. It is All Lobbying .... Since the Pakistan have been Selected for last THREE terms & Very Few Countries have been able to went on to Get Four Terms .... We always Participate in Next Election .... No Big deal ...

Point is What Good Have we bring in Past Three Terms ... With Respect to Kashmir, Afghanistan, Palestine, Refugee issue ???? Just Placing a Suited Booted guy in Amreeka is Not enough ... !!!! Here lies the REAL failure !

Also More & More countries want to become Prominent hence more & more Competition to get selected few seats ... U cannot Expect to Win Every time ... !

 

[dilpakistani]

Its not end of the world. Pakistan have valuable contribution on that forum that is all that matters.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Defeat in UN body prompts introspection


ISLAMABAD: The diplomatic humiliation of losing in a bid for re-election to the United Nations Human Rights Council (HRC) has forced the Foreign Office to do some introspection and look for the causes.

The country had served three terms on the 47-member council and was vying for a fourth one from the Asia-Pacific Group which had five vacant slots.

Pakistan got 105 votes in the 193-member General Assembly and could not get re-elected. Other countries that lost from the group were Laos and Bahamas.

The group was topped by Mongolia, which bagged over 150 votes. The United Arab Emirates, Kyrgyzstan, South Korea and the Philippines were also elected.

The defeat was shocking because it was the first time that Pakistan had lost a major election at the UN. Just a year ago it had polled 180 votes to get elected to the Economic and Social Council.

Pakistan had been in the rights council since 2006, except for a year-long mandatory break.

The defeat on the one hand exposes the frictions with other countries (which were caused by the government’s foreign policy decisions) while on the other it sheds light on the way the Foreign Office and its missions operate casually on critical matters.

Most officials at the Foreign Office agree that the loss is a setback, but at the same time they say that the implications will be “more symbolic than real”.

Despite losing the seat, the country will be able to attend the proceedings of the council which promotes and develops human rights norms and investigates and highlights relevant issues and crises. But it will not be able to argue on issues of concern to it on the floor of the council or block a resolution tabled against it.

Kashmir issue

According to an insider, Pakistan was planning to raise at the council the issue of human rights violations in India-occupied Kashmir in a big way. Now the country will not have this advantage at least till it gets re-elected.

“There were multiple reasons why Pakistan didn’t get elected,” an official at the Foreign Office said.

The two major blocs that did not vote for Pakistan were the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).

The Asean countries did not vote for Pakistan because of its policy on the South China Sea dispute, while the Gulf states had their own set of grievances.

Votes from the Organisation for Islamic Cooperation always helped Pakistan in the past elections, but this time the group was divided on the issue because of the stance of GCC.

Western countries also had their qualms. The Nordic countries in particular had concerns about Pakistan’s human rights record — death penalty, the blasphemy issue and persecution of Christians, Ahmadis and Shias. Others were uncomfortable over the strong position Pakistan took on issues like drones and ‘Islamophobia’.

Assertiveness has a price

“The West ganged up against Pakistan because of the strong and independent policies that Pakistan has pursued in the HRC. Western support for docile countries like Mongolia, Kyrgyzstan, South Korea and the Philippines appears to be part of a concerted effort to make the HRC more compliant to western agendas,” an observer said.

“It also explains why Mongolia, a small country with limited means and certainly no visible campaign, was able to get the highest number of votes.”

According to an official, incumbency was another factor behind the defeat. Pakistan had been on the council almost since its inception. Therefore, some countries felt it was time to give a chance to others.

But at the same time there were some blunders committed by the Foreign Office.

The permanent representative in Geneva, where the council is based, was changed at the wrong time. The new representative had taken over the charge of the mission from Zamir Akram barely a fortnight before the elections and could not do much. The voting took place in New York, but still the outreach of the representative in Geneva is considered very important for the election.

“The outgoing Pakistani representative may have lost interest and the new one had little time to lobby,” sources said.

While there was practically no canvassing in Geneva, the foreign ministry too did little to contact the embassies here for securing their countries’ votes.

The campaigning by officers of the Pakistani mission at the UN in New York was also found wanting.

There has also been a controversy over the reciprocal arrangements worked out with various countries. The country put its weight behind the individual candidatures of Anwar Kamal and Barrister Zafarullah for two UN committees that cost votes for the national candidature this time.

“The decision to give preference to an individual candidate for the Committee for Elimination of Racial Hatred over the national candidacy for the HRC led to the loss of at least 20 votes that could have been secured if the arrangement had not been made,” the sources said.

More importantly, the Foreign Office failed to timely anticipate the electoral defeat and withdraw from the race.

“It is a setback, but with robust diplomacy and an active role in other forums, this will not be difficult to overcome,” an official said.

Published in Dawn, November 1st, 2015

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Nawaz Sharif's foreign policy is a 'non-policy'. Besides licking China's boots, he has no other real policy to speak of. Its a serious concern if you cannot get ASEAN to vote for you. GCC is a bunch of corrupt Arab totalitarian states anyways but even they didn't vote for Pakistan given their cozy relationship with Nawaz Sharif. What a failure PMLN government is in running Pakistan's foreign policy!

@Jzaib @Leader @Muhammad Omar @I S I @Viper0011. @Akheilos

And now we know what the hell Ajit Doval was upto in GCC Countries.

 

[NHUDA]

And now we know what the hell Ajit Doval was upto in GCC Countries.

WoW ... if That All Ajit Doval Did ... thn Let him keep doing this ... i thought he would have Better ambition ....

The group was topped by Mongolia, which bagged over 150 votes. The United Arab Emirates, Kyrgyzstan, South Korea and the Philippines were also elected.

The two major blocs that did not vote for Pakistan were the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).

So Your Saying Asean & GCC would have ignored UAE & South Korea & Philippines & iinstead voted for Pakistan ... India or No India, Dovol or Not .... this would have happened regardless due to Participant of Own Representative of those Blocs ... Get Over It !

 

[CIS-TRANS]

No.

Gen. Sharif followed the Parliament direction.

Why IK alone should be blamed for parliament decision.. his party is not even in majority. real culprits are PML N .

 

[xyxmt]

We lost GCC votes on this. First time in history.

Reason!

Immi Khan and other parties who opposed and disrespected GCC KSA request for troops.

There was no harm in immediately sending 3000 troops with specific conditions to defend KSA.

There are several ways to avoid putting boots in Yemen.

But our dancing Khan opposed NS on this.

And hence the lost opportunity on many level including loss of vote from GCC.

Sadly.

Actually Khan opposing doesnt count as $hit on of matters of foreign affairs, Its was Army's decission otherwise NS would have sent troops.

Why? Who is the government of the day in Pakistan? BJP?
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Arent you the same people who say NS my ****, army is running the foreign policy

 

[Viper0011.]

Ha, immi bashing should be the new national game. Anyways, sending or not sending troops was and is purely up to the GHQ. The politicians can't even commit to sending a pigeon on their own.

Who started this game??? IK did!!! So when the coin is flipped you guys feel hurt??? There are thousands of pages willed with ink and typing on this forum till today, verbally abusing all IK opponents, including people's wives, daughters, etc. But when IK goes through a second divorce, months after he gets married, he expects "privacy and respect"!!!

SERIOUSLY???

Last, no one's bashing IK because "he's a bad guy to us"!! We are pointing out silly mistakes that have cost Pakistan dearly around the globe, and in billions of loss at time, with innocents dead. That is not acceptable !!!!

 

[FaujHistorian]

Why IK alone should be blamed for parliament decision.. his party is not even in majority. real culprits are PML N .

Off course my dear. Off course.

PMLN is to blame.

Happy now?

Oh bhai

SMQ and IK left dharna dancing especially to vote against PMLN on this issue. But alas you will not remember all that. Reason! Most of the IK followers were even born at that time.

Actually Khan opposing doesnt count as $hit on of matters of foreign affairs, Its was Army's decission otherwise NS would have sent troops.
y

Bhai when you said it Khan's role is $hit.

What can I say.

 

[A.M.]

Arent you the same people who say NS my ****, army is running the foreign policy

Their smug faces have been bashed so many times that they don't even know how to respond anymore.

Foreign Policy Victory = mashallah raheel shareef

Foreign Policy Defeat = uloo nawaz shareef

It's quiet funny actually.

 

[NaMaloom]

Why i'm even talking to a senseless person..

Next time refrain from tagging me.

Yes, everything and everyone is 'senseless' when your point has been refuted and you've got nothing left to say. It happens.

Actually Khan opposing doesnt count as $hit on of matters of foreign affairs, Its was Army's decission otherwise NS would have sent troops.

What a claim! Would love to see the evidence behind this claim.

Arent you the same people who say NS my ****, army is running the foreign policy

So you are admitting that patwari experienced team has washed its hands off of foreign policy and noonitoons don't really have a foreign policy?!?!

What it boils down to is this, the army pulls a few strings here and there gives general guidelines to the sitting government of the do's and dont's of foreign policy but it is entirely up to the sitting government to execute the foreign policy without alienating Pakistan in the diplomatic world - especially on a forum as important as the UNHRC where you've just lost the opportunity to raise Human Rights violations in Indian Occupied Kashmir that have experienced a sharp uptick because of the BJP government of Modi.

 

[I S I]

Their smug faces have been bashed so many times that they don't even know how to respond anymore.

Foreign Policy Victory = mashallah raheel shareef

Foreign Policy Defeat = uloo nawaz shareef

It's quiet funny actually.

Lol This.

 

[rubyjackass]

Said it Before ... Saying it Again .. It is All Lobbying .... Since the Pakistan have been Selected for last THREE terms & Very Few Countries have been able to went on to Get Four Terms .... We always Participate in Next Election .... No Big deal ...

Point is What Good Have we bring in Past Three Terms ... With Respect to Kashmir, Afghanistan, Palestine, Refugee issue ???? Just Placing a Suited Booted guy in Amreeka is Not enough ... !!!! Here lies the REAL failure !

Also More & More countries want to become Prominent hence more & more Competition to get selected few seats ... U cannot Expect to Win Every time ... !

The problem is not Pakistan losing a seat. If Pakistan thought it would loose, they should have pulled out of the candidature. The country would have avoided a defeat. Losing is also fine when the stakes are high and there are worthy rivals. But that is not the case here.

And now we know what the hell Ajit Doval was upto in GCC Countries.

This is not his area.

More than sharif govt..it is our UN mission tht failed..they could not effectively lobby... People mostly have high regard for Maleeha Lodhi... I dont know..what much is the hype about her? People were all praise when she got selected as permanent representative to UN... But she couldnt even properly lobby for Pakistan in UN... Ambassador to UN at geneva Zamir Akram got retired, and Tehmina Janjua came at the last moment, but Maleeha Lodhi in newyork was there.. She could lobby... But she didnt lobby properly and Pakistan lost the seat which was no big deal... I dont think she ever did something of value... But got un-due praise.. ambassadors like Munir Akram and Zamir akram were distinguished diplomats.. Esp munir Akram did a lot for Pakistan's diplomacy on nuclear issues... But Maleeha Lodhi is more interested in her personal promotion than doing anything substantial ..

This is the problem with Pakistan. One failure and the individual gets ostracized as selfish and naakaam. Maleeha Lodhi did take office with expectations and she started off well with strong statements, even organizing some human rights special session and used it to talk about Kashmir. I guess this loss was an oversight.

But yes, the vote was in NewYork apparently. She could have done something. At the very least pulled out Pakistan from the race.

 

[NHUDA]

The problem is not Pakistan losing a seat. If Pakistan thought it would loose, they should have pulled out of the candidature. The country would have avoided a defeat. Losing is also fine when the stakes are high and there are worthy rivals. But that is not the case here.

all thr is to Know is in the OP ...

it was the first time that Pakistan had lost a major election at the UN. Just a year ago it had polled 180 votes to get elected to the Economic and Social Council.

(ImO) Pakistan went Over Confident to Win 4th Seat in a row (with Mandatory break In between) . 5 Seats for the Bloc were on Offer & the winner being Mongolia, The United Arab Emirates, Kyrgyzstan, South Korea and the Philippines.

The two major blocs that did not vote for Pakistan were the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).

Pakistan got 105 votes in the 193-member General Assembly. You can see the Competition , U know who would have preferred Who & lobbied accordingly for each other & hence Pakistan find itself short of required votes !

In my Personal Opinion the Loss and Attempt either one is not an issue .... Pakistan can again Attempt next year (if it wants) & regain the seat ... but whats the Point ?