Pakistan journalist explaining Kashmir Issue to Indians outside Pakistan Embassy, London

[Samrat420]

haha, daiko yar healthy debate kerna buri cheeze nai hai. Bt kernay sai hi solution hai. App batay knosi UN resolution break ke hai Pakistan nai.

69 saalo mein to nai nikli solution.. Hum dono ke debate karne se nikal jayegi? Sach mein?

 

[The Diplomat]

69 saalo mein to nai nikli solution.. Hum dono ke debate karne se nikal jayegi? Sach mein?

oh yar, konsa UN resolution tora hai Pakistan nai, seeda seeda bata do.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Please quote some points, with all due respect your argument is stupid. The Indians backed off because they had no real thing to say about Kashmir. How long has JK been on lock down? Are old people not able to have a sensible argument or is it just Indians that back off when they lose in the argument?

I dont see them 'backing off' because they 'lost' and argument here. They did say what they had come to say... which is the part that you dont get... those people just got fed up of that journalist's rhetoric points and showed him a midddle finger by Ignoring him. Stil if you think the group lost because they went away..well then fine, whatever makes you happy.

 

[The Diplomat]

I dont see them 'backing off' because they 'lost' and argument here. They did say what they had come to say... which is the part that you dont get... those people just got fed up of that journalist's rhetoric points and showed him a midddle finger by Ignoring him. Stil if you think the group lost because they went away..well then fine, whatever makes you happy.

Can you and your friend @Samrat420 tell me what UN resolution Pakistan has broke in Kashmir? It looks to me as he is avoiding the question as he has nothing to back him self up with.

 

[Samrat420]

Can you and your friend @Samrat420 tell me what UN resolution Pakistan has broke in Kashmir? It looks to me as he is avoiding the question as he has nothing to back him self up with.

OK.. now that you're so adamant, let me ask you something... Have you read the UN resolutions? Anyone of them? How much do you know about the obligations that the UN put on India and Pakistan respectively..? What were the steps mandated by the said resolutions before a plebiscite could take place?

BTW, I never ever said that Pakistan broke any UN resolutions. Pakistan simply ignored them. And Pakistan was perfectly within its rights to do so, because the resolutions were passed under chapter VI, which rendered them non-mandatory and non-enforceable. They were more like an advice than an order. Pakistan simply decided to ignore that advice. But here's the catch -- Pakistan wants India to abide by the same resolutions unilaterally that she herself threw in the dustbin. And that's where the whole conundrum lies.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Can you and your friend @Samrat420 tell me what UN resolution Pakistan has broke in Kashmir? It looks to me as he is avoiding the question as he has nothing to back him self up with.

No I cant say. Rest ask yourself whomever you want to.

 

[X-2.]

Yaar koi PDF pe bulao us journalist ko.. Zara hum bhi usko UN resolutions ki knowledge check karein..

Idr walo sy nimet lo ti kafi hoga agha Saab

 

[Samrat420]

Idr walo sy nimet lo ti kafi hoga agha Saab

Wo sab to theek hai... par ye “Agha Saab" kya hota hai?

 

[X-2.]

Wo sab to theek hai... par ye “Agha Saab" kya hota hai?

Agha ka Nae pta

 

[Samrat420]

Agha ka Nae pta

Nae pata. :-( Urdu zara weak hai yaar.

 

[Globaltracker81]

Can you and your friend @Samrat420 tell me what UN resolution Pakistan has broke in Kashmir? It looks to me as he is avoiding the question as he has nothing to back him self up with.

I believe the UN resolution is for entire Jammu & Kashmir in its initial state i.e Azad Kashmir, J&K, Aksai Chin, Gilgit and the portion of Kashmir you guys gifted to China. Please get everyone on board for the plebiscite. Then we can talk.

 

[X-2.]

Nae pata. :-( Urdu zara weak hai yaar.

Agha ji sharif admi ko khty hain or u can call sidu santh

 

[PeaceGen]

I vote for (guided-)autonomy for the Kashmiris.. Key point to fostering good relations with apparently-strategically located Kashmir is what you give the Kashmiris, not "how you rule them"..

 

[The Diplomat]

I believe the UN resolution is for entire Jammu & Kashmir in its initial state i.e Azad Kashmir, J&K, Aksai Chin, Gilgit and the portion of Kashmir you guys gifted to China. Please get everyone on board for the plebiscite. Then we can talk.

What Gilgit? Are you mad? Gilgit is not Kashmir and nor a disputed territory. It is, was and will remain a part of Pakistani territory.
Tell me where there has not been a JK referendum? In Gilgit there was a referendum and the people of Gilgit voted to STAY with Pakistan. You know that for a fact!

OK.. now that you're so adamant, let me ask you something... Have you read the UN resolutions? Anyone of them? How much do you know about the obligations that the UN put on India and Pakistan respectively..? What were the steps mandated by the said resolutions before a plebiscite could take place?

BTW, I never ever said that Pakistan broke any UN resolutions. Pakistan simply ignored them. And Pakistan was perfectly within its rights to do so, because the resolutions were passed under chapter VI, which rendered them non-mandatory and non-enforceable. They were more like an advice than an order. Pakistan simply decided to ignore that advice. But here's the catch -- Pakistan wants India to abide by the same resolutions unilaterally that she herself threw in the dustbin. And that's where the whole conundrum lies.

Under Chapter VI which "advice" did Pakistan not enforce? My dear friend Pakistan has always said that that the only way to resolve the Kashmir issue is to follow the UN resolutions and that is what Pakistan has done. She has never broke a mandatory or "advice" resolution in Kashmir. Please give examples. (The speech is attached below; YouTube video).

Defense Day 16 Kashmir Issue speech by Gen.Raheel Shairf (NI):

 

[Globaltracker81]

What Gilgit? Are you mad? Gilgit is not Kashmir and nor a disputed territory. It is, was and will remain a part of Pakistani territory.
Tell me where there has not been a JK referendum? In Gilgit there was a referendum and the people of Gilgit voted to STAY with Pakistan. You know that for a fact!


Under Chapter VI which "advice" did Pakistan not enforce? My dear friend Pakistan has always said that that the only way to resolve the Kashmir issue is to follow the UN resolutions and that is what Pakistan has done. She has never broke a mandatory or "advice" resolution in Kashmir. Please give examples. (The speech is attached below; YouTube video).

Defense Day 16 Kashmir Issue speech by Gen.Raheel Shairf (NI):

Right, And who has monitored it.
Conveniently avoided answering about the Aksai Chin and Pakistan donation to China.