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Pakistan itself is victim of terrorism, China tells India

That's what happens when you raise snake in your backyard. You cry or not that's your thing to do. If you had an organized media and the kind of global footprint that India has, then you would have been found to be crying at every corners in the World, blaming others for your own mistakes.
so according to you these snakes were getting our funding when they were biting you but now who is funding them when they are biting us?
My point is Pakistan supported talibans only when they did not involve any sort of terrorism and was just interested in making pashtun dominated rule in Afghanistan? was not US doing same thing to call them freedom fighter when they were against Russia? why dont apply same logic to US who created group lile Al qaida and ISIS .

Pakistan, a victim of it's own creation.
and US is not victim of its own policies? h
 
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saudi arabia of course, and there is also a large Pakistani population who are sympathetic to TTP who fund them
wow great logic. Pakistani public is funding those people who are killing our school children and killing innocent civilians and army personnels in mosques while offering prayers..kia baat ha
 
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Logic of Indian is terrorism in India cannot be conducted without support of Pakistani ISI but terrorism in Pakistan is also being sponsored and trained by ISI or Pakistani terrorist dont need any funding, logistic support training etc
You guys are either dumb or trying to be dumb..
Logic is interpolation of strategic circumstances do not hold true to unique distinct entities.

the logic is Pakistani deep- state developed a terror ecosystem to draw from to be used as a state tool in Kashmir and Afghanistan. Kashmir groups - drawing from kashmiri and punjabi youth, Afghan mujhhideen playing on tribal factionalism. With Mullah Omar's Taliban fructifying - and WoT commencing Pakistani deep state lost control over certain factions of taliban breeding ground- and what you see today is to turn on the afghan taliban bringing down the taliban emirate. But that doesn't mean that you have lost control over all of them and they continue to thrive as a low cost state tool for projecting offensive power in the region. In addition for the deepstate- terror backlash in pakistan is a small price to pay to still maintain the eco-system that has incredible cost advantage when it comes to any offensive policy. Now imagine 100 cr
budget to make the Indian Army spend billions in countermeasures. Pakistani policy looks pretty successful to me
 
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Yeah man.
I cant believe that.
You opened my eyes! holy shit.
I better ask the most saintous indian army to protect us like they're protecting the occupied kashmir! :O

Holy moly how was I deceived so badly.
:crazy::crazy::crazy:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

:devil::devil::devil::devil:

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You can live in self Denial , Doesn't matter to Kashmiris :yu:
 
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wow great logic. Pakistani public is funding those people who are killing our school children and killing innocent civilians and army personnels in mosques while offering prayers..kia baat ha
No No, Your public is donating for killing Indian School Children, Indian Civilians, and Indian Army personnel. -As a admitted by general Musharraf in an interview where JeM, LeT would have fund raisers in Pakistan to fuel Jihad in Kashmir.
 
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Accountability like NATO bombing on Islamabad in your opinion ? That time has gone already. Let's start accountability process from 1948 than. What do ya say ?
Rather let's start from 1980 shall we and nope we don't want NATO bombing of Islamabad as we don't wan't an unstable and another ISIS like state in our neighborhood.
 
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He added that the Chinese position on terrorism is that there should not be any “double standards”.
“This is something we need to look into,” he said without explaining who he was referring to.
He was probably referring to 'good' and 'bad' terrorists! :azn:
 
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Self inflicted injuries do not make a victim

When you post one liners like this, it shows that you're completely trivializing the situation. Please do not post if you don't have anything useful to post.
 
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sponsored by Indian rats will be much much appropriate

The guy offers to delete his comment if offended, and you respond by calling him an "Indian rat". So sweet you are, no?

No. i am someone who think such high scale terrorism in Pakistan cannot be done without support of some anti Pakistan elements and we all know who they are..Only difference is we dont cry as much as India do whenever we are victim of terrorism

Look around. The jihad factory spawned by ISI to nurture nanhe mujahid for Afghanistan and Kashmir are doing what they do best, killing. Stop blaming others for your state policy.

When you post one liners like this, it shows that you're completely trivializing the situation. Please do not post if you don't have anything useful to post.

Why is it not a useful comment? That Pakistan's current situation is self-inflicted is beyond denying. So according to you claiming otherwise is a useful contribution to the debate, is it?
 
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Why is it not a useful comment? That Pakistan's current situation is self-inflicted is beyond denying. So according to you claiming otherwise is a useful contribution to the debate, is it?

There's context and a back story to the situation in Pakistan. I'm merely reminding him - stop white-knighting.
 
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The guy offers to delete his comment if offended, and you respond by calling him an "Indian rat". So sweet you are, no?



Look around. The jihad factory spawned by ISI to nurture nanhe mujahid for Afghanistan and Kashmir are doing what they do best, killing. Stop blaming others for your state policy.



Why is it not a useful comment? That Pakistan's current situation is self-inflicted is beyond denying. So according to you claiming otherwise is a useful contribution to the debate, is it?
did he delete his comments ? no :D :D
 
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Bharat is a victim of its own policies. It supported terrorism in multiple countries and the blowback it experienced is its own doing.

It doesn't look like any state buys the nonsense bharatis are peddling. So much for non-existant global unity against Pakistan that bharatis peddle.

Why don't bharatis tell Americans 9/11 was their own doing and see what response they get?
 
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Bharat is a victim of its own policies. It supported terrorism in multiple countries and the blowback it experienced is its own doing.

It doesn't look like any state buys the nonsense bharatis are peddling. So much for non-existant global unity against Pakistan that bharatis peddle.

Why don't bharatis tell Americans 9/11 was their own doing and see what response they get?

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