Pakistan Is Showing U.S. Enemies How to Defeat America

[PakFactor]

Does this stupid author not remember what happened to the Soviet in afghanistan and it was Pakistan that helped mujahdeen fighters defeat the mighty soviets

He's having an amnesia attack these days --

 

[cloud4000]

US lost in Afghanistan simply because of hubris. Same in Iraq. Same in Vietnam.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Simply put, the U.S. willingness to accept a flawed ‘peace’ deal with the Taliban has convinced Taliban sponsors within Pakistan’s military and all-powerful intelligence service not only that Washington is weak and its concerns not worthy of serious attention, but also that Pakistan can gratuitously humiliate the United States as Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan pivots the country further into China’s orbit.

In 1985, when Hezbollah kidnapped four Russian diplomats in Beirut, killing one, Moscow’s retaliation was swift. Different versions of the story exist, but they all have one thing in common: A Hezbollah commander began receiving body parts of a close relative through the mail. Hezbollah released the remaining hostages and never took another Russian.

Hezbollah may not have liked the Soviets, but they quickly learned that they could not mess with Russians. Contrast that with Pakistan today. On April 2, a Pakistani court voided a murder conviction of Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh who kidnapped and then videotaped his slaughter of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

Welcome to the world after the U.S.-Taliban realm, negotiated by U.S. Special Envoy Zalmay Khalilzad. Simply put, the U.S. willingness to accept a flawed ‘peace’ deal with the Taliban has convinced Taliban sponsors within Pakistan’s military and all-powerful intelligence service not only that Washington is weak and its concerns not worthy of serious attention, but also that Pakistan can gratuitously humiliate the United States as Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan pivots the country further into China’s orbit.

Khalilzad is now zero for two in high stakes diplomacy. It was Khalilzad, after all, who negotiated the 2003 Geneva deal with now-Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif in which the U.S. government accepted the Iranian pledge not to infiltrate militias and forces into Iraq--which clearly they did not follow. Already, it appears the Taliban were no more sincere. The Taliban reject the very legitimacy of the elected Afghan government, and so their refusal to recognize its negotiating team should not surprise. Taliban attacks have continued unabated. The evidence exposing Pakistan’s support for the Taliban and its covert relationship with Al Qaeda remains overwhelming. Not only did Al Qaeda founder Usama Bin Laden find shelter in a townhome to Pakistan’s primary military academy, but U.S. forces killed the leader of Al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent during a raid on a Taliban compound.

President Donald Trump may feel he has fulfilled a promise to end America’s longest war, but it would be a mistake for the administration to believe its own spin, because no one else does. Al Qaeda has lauded the Taliban’s “great victory” and a “humiliating defeat” for the United States. "Even if we don't say that the U.S. is defeated in Afghanistan, it is an open secret now that they are defeated," Anas Haqqani, son of the Haqqani network’s founder, told the press. Pakistani religious officials broadcast how America was “begging for peace and escape.”

What happens in Afghanistan doesn’t stay in Afghanistan, however: That was the lesson of the pre-9/11 era, and it is even more true today. Trump has warned Iranian-backed militias in Iraq not to attack American interests but why should they listen? Even if the United States launches the occasional airstrike or even kills top Iranian commanders like Qassem Soleimani, the Taliban deal show that the United States will ultimately ignore state-sponsors of terror and maintain the fiction that deals struck with their proxies matter. Revolutionary Guardsmen inside Iranian territory can rest assured first that the Trump administration will not hold them to account for the actions of Iranian-backed militias just as they have not meaningfully held any Pakistan generals responsible for the Taliban. The Iranian-backed proxies, for their part, understand if they simply continue or even escalate their attacks, the United States will eventually retreat. It worked in Beirut during the Reagan administration, and it worked in Basra, so why shouldn’t it work for Baghdad?

Nor is the problem just the Middle East. Russia and China look at recent U.S. fecklessness and conclude that U.S. diplomacy need not be respected. In Syria, Vladimir Putin played poker with the Obama administration and somehow managed to beat a royal flush with a pair of twos. Just as Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev calculated that Jimmy Carter’s 1979 abandonment of the Shah of Iran and impotence as revolutionaries seized American hostages meant that he could invade Afghanistan with impunity, so too might Putin conclude that U.S. weakness means he could act against Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, or ethnic-Russian regions of Kazakhstan without fear of consequence. Taiwan, too, must look at recent Trump moves on Afghanistan and recognize that the White House would not lift a finger to defend it when push comes to shove.

Ceasing “endless wars” might be the slogan of the day, but how wars end matter. Progressives and liberals say that diplomacy should be the strategy of first resort. They are right. But when the United States loses credibility on the battlefield and adversaries concluded that Washington neither has the will nor the way, they will run roughshod over American interests. Pakistan’s release of Pearl’s killer is only the beginning.

Michael Rubin is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). You can follow him on Twitter: @mrubin1971.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/m...-showing-us-enemies-how-defeat-america-140572

This Zionist mouthpiece is jumping around between Iran and Pakistan to paint some kind of correlation which does not exist.

US invasion of Afghanistan was illegal and counterproductive, but the US bullied the whole world to support or stay silent. Now normalcy has returned and all foreign actors have run out of resources and support.

We have to be careful of the AEI, this is a rightwing think tank which is largely funded by oil companies in the US and has deep links to Dick Cheney and his Bush administration.

They also host Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is a blasphemer and fierce hater of Islam, particularly the Prophet Muhammad saws. That alone shows their mindset.

They are having a difficult time accepting that the ball they started rolling has gotten away from them.

We Pakistanis should be publishing rebuttals in English against this blatant fear mongering. Unfortunately our English media is bought and sold to these same Western propagandists.

In sha Allah, I think this has galvanized us to realize the mountain of lies which we face on a daily basis spewing out from Washington, London, New Delhi, Tel Aviv, Tehran, Kabul, and other capitals.

 

[PakFactor]

This Zionist mouthpiece is jumping around between Iran and Pakistan to paint some kind of correlation which does not exist.

US invasion of Afghanistan was illegal and counterproductive, but the US bullied the whole world to support or stay silent. Now normalcy has returned and all foreign actors have run out of resources and support.

We have to be careful of the AEI, this is a rightwing think tank which is largely funded by oil companies in the US and has deep links to Dick Cheney and his Bush administration.

They also host Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is a blasphemer and fierce hater of Islam, particularly the Prophet Muhammad saws. That alone shows their mindset.

They are having a difficult time accepting that the ball they started rolling has gotten away from them.

We Pakistanis should be publishing rebuttals in English against this blatant fear mongering. Unfortunately our English media is bought and sold to these same Western propagandists.

In sha Allah, I think galvanized us to realize the mountain of lies which we face on a daily basis spewing out from Washington, London, New Delhi, Tel Aviv, Tehran, Kabul, and other capitals.

It's moment like these makes one proud to be a Pakistani -- we walk of with a YOLO look

These Think Tanks can moan all they want, but they have to accept reality they've wasted resources, lives and money and gotten nothing out of it. Even the Pajeets across the border are scratching their baboon behinds thinking what's next.

But on the other end must keep an open eye on what they could do next to damage our national interests and counter them.

 

[Dalit]

This Zionist mouthpiece is jumping around between Iran and Pakistan to paint some kind of correlation which does not exist.

US invasion of Afghanistan was illegal and counterproductive, but the US bullied the whole world to support or stay silent. Now normalcy has returned and all foreign actors have run out of resources and support.

We have to be careful of the AEI, this is a rightwing think tank which is largely funded by oil companies in the US and has deep links to Dick Cheney and his Bush administration.

They also host Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is a blasphemer and fierce hater of Islam, particularly the Prophet Muhammad saws. That alone shows their mindset.

They are having a difficult time accepting that the ball they started rolling has gotten away from them.

We Pakistanis should be publishing rebuttals in English against this blatant fear mongering. Unfortunately our English media is bought and sold to these same Western propagandists.

In sha Allah, I think galvanized us to realize the mountain of lies which we face on a daily basis spewing out from Washington, London, New Delhi, Tel Aviv, Tehran, Kabul, and other capitals.

They have been lying their entire lives. Hoping that Pakistan would disintegrate in a week or so with US and NATO generals handing out deadlines. We haven't forgotten. We have come from the brink. We worked hard and against all odds. We didn't reach this point to throw it all away. We are in firm control despite our shortcomings and external pressures. We will win this war. InshAllah. We need to have rock solid faith and determination. Pakistan is here to stay and not for being a client state of others. China and Pakistan relation is going to go from strength to more strength. The Americans are just witnessing glimpses of what is to come. Their little poodles may try to paint a grim picture, but the reality speaks for itself.

You should visit the author's Twitter feed LOL Like most Americans he is quarreling with the rest of the world. Nothing is going his way. It is like the white angry man had envisaged a different outcome.

 

[Morpheus]

In 1985, when Hezbollah kidnapped four Russian diplomats in Beirut, killing one, Moscow’s retaliation was swift. Different versions of the story exist, but they all have one thing in common: A Hezbollah commander began receiving body parts of a close relative through the mail. Hezbollah released the remaining hostages and never took another Russian.

I remember read about that. That was some bad *** stuff. Made them wet their pants immediately

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Make no mistake folks. The venom this American author spews is not an exception. The US deep state has brainwashed their entire country to believe the same shit regarding Pakistan. Anti-Pakistan sentiments are not only rife on Pepe the frog forums or nationalinterest magazine. These fuckers have been maligning Pakistan with a clear purpose for decades upon decades. Now they were expecting an exhausted Pakistan to beg Uncle Sam for mercy. A Pakistan that would kneel and plead the US for repentance. A Pakistan that would accept its role as a slave of India. A Pakistan that would compromise on all outstanding conflicts and issues. A Pakistan that would become a post WWII Japan where US military bases and hookers are up for grabs. Things have taken a very VERY different turn here. One that the Americans hadn't calculated in their worst dreams.

The Coronavirus is there to change the parameters and variables of the differentials of the geo-strategic equation as far as the USA is concerned. Anti-Pak stances can take a hike now...

 

[Dalit]

I remember read about that. That was some bad *** stuff. Made them wet their pants immediately

This American believes that his supernatural soldiers can kidnap our soldiers or leaders. This fool thinks Pakistan is Hezbollah. This American fool cannot even comprehend what Pakistan is.

 

[pakpride00090]

Wait till Taliban wave their flag on Kabul..Hence Project Afghanistan is completed, all attention will be paid to project Kashmir.

 

[khansaheeb]

The Americans feel humiliated and betrayed by Pakistan moving into Chinese orbit. Had the Americans naively thought that Pakistan had no options? The Americans were expecting Pakistan to bend over and accept second fiddle role under its lapdog India. Obviously Pakistan would never accept this role proposed by the USA.

LOL

Hezbollah may not have liked the Soviets, but they quickly learned that they could not mess with Russians. Contrast that with Pakistan today.

This fool is comparing Hezbollah with Pakistan. We are a nuclear power and a nation of 200+ million.

Yes this an Indian paid anti-Pakistan piece, only worth to be flushed down the toilet. Indians have taken over the UK government and are now working on the USA. It's the rise of the Hindjew partnership.

 

[American Pakistani]

Simply put, the U.S. willingness to accept a flawed ‘peace’ deal with the Taliban has convinced Taliban sponsors within Pakistan’s military and all-powerful intelligence service not only that Washington is weak and its concerns not worthy of serious attention, but also that Pakistan can gratuitously humiliate the United States as Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan pivots the country further into China’s orbit.

In 1985, when Hezbollah kidnapped four Russian diplomats in Beirut, killing one, Moscow’s retaliation was swift. Different versions of the story exist, but they all have one thing in common: A Hezbollah commander began receiving body parts of a close relative through the mail. Hezbollah released the remaining hostages and never took another Russian.

Hezbollah may not have liked the Soviets, but they quickly learned that they could not mess with Russians. Contrast that with Pakistan today. On April 2, a Pakistani court voided a murder conviction of Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh who kidnapped and then videotaped his slaughter of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

Welcome to the world after the U.S.-Taliban realm, negotiated by U.S. Special Envoy Zalmay Khalilzad. Simply put, the U.S. willingness to accept a flawed ‘peace’ deal with the Taliban has convinced Taliban sponsors within Pakistan’s military and all-powerful intelligence service not only that Washington is weak and its concerns not worthy of serious attention, but also that Pakistan can gratuitously humiliate the United States as Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan pivots the country further into China’s orbit.

Khalilzad is now zero for two in high stakes diplomacy. It was Khalilzad, after all, who negotiated the 2003 Geneva deal with now-Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif in which the U.S. government accepted the Iranian pledge not to infiltrate militias and forces into Iraq--which clearly they did not follow. Already, it appears the Taliban were no more sincere. The Taliban reject the very legitimacy of the elected Afghan government, and so their refusal to recognize its negotiating team should not surprise. Taliban attacks have continued unabated. The evidence exposing Pakistan’s support for the Taliban and its covert relationship with Al Qaeda remains overwhelming. Not only did Al Qaeda founder Usama Bin Laden find shelter in a townhome to Pakistan’s primary military academy, but U.S. forces killed the leader of Al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent during a raid on a Taliban compound.

President Donald Trump may feel he has fulfilled a promise to end America’s longest war, but it would be a mistake for the administration to believe its own spin, because no one else does. Al Qaeda has lauded the Taliban’s “great victory” and a “humiliating defeat” for the United States. "Even if we don't say that the U.S. is defeated in Afghanistan, it is an open secret now that they are defeated," Anas Haqqani, son of the Haqqani network’s founder, told the press. Pakistani religious officials broadcast how America was “begging for peace and escape.”

What happens in Afghanistan doesn’t stay in Afghanistan, however: That was the lesson of the pre-9/11 era, and it is even more true today. Trump has warned Iranian-backed militias in Iraq not to attack American interests but why should they listen? Even if the United States launches the occasional airstrike or even kills top Iranian commanders like Qassem Soleimani, the Taliban deal show that the United States will ultimately ignore state-sponsors of terror and maintain the fiction that deals struck with their proxies matter. Revolutionary Guardsmen inside Iranian territory can rest assured first that the Trump administration will not hold them to account for the actions of Iranian-backed militias just as they have not meaningfully held any Pakistan generals responsible for the Taliban. The Iranian-backed proxies, for their part, understand if they simply continue or even escalate their attacks, the United States will eventually retreat. It worked in Beirut during the Reagan administration, and it worked in Basra, so why shouldn’t it work for Baghdad?

Nor is the problem just the Middle East. Russia and China look at recent U.S. fecklessness and conclude that U.S. diplomacy need not be respected. In Syria, Vladimir Putin played poker with the Obama administration and somehow managed to beat a royal flush with a pair of twos. Just as Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev calculated that Jimmy Carter’s 1979 abandonment of the Shah of Iran and impotence as revolutionaries seized American hostages meant that he could invade Afghanistan with impunity, so too might Putin conclude that U.S. weakness means he could act against Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, or ethnic-Russian regions of Kazakhstan without fear of consequence. Taiwan, too, must look at recent Trump moves on Afghanistan and recognize that the White House would not lift a finger to defend it when push comes to shove.

Ceasing “endless wars” might be the slogan of the day, but how wars end matter. Progressives and liberals say that diplomacy should be the strategy of first resort. They are right. But when the United States loses credibility on the battlefield and adversaries concluded that Washington neither has the will nor the way, they will run roughshod over American interests. Pakistan’s release of Pearl’s killer is only the beginning.

Michael Rubin is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). You can follow him on Twitter: @mrubin1971.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/m...-showing-us-enemies-how-defeat-america-140572

Another nonsense article from Bharti lobbiest national interest garbage.

Make no mistake folks. The venom this American author spews is not an exception. The US deep state has brainwashed their entire country to believe the same shit regarding Pakistan. Anti-Pakistan sentiments are not only rife on Pepe the frog forums or nationalinterest magazine. These fuckers have been maligning Pakistan with a clear purpose for decades upon decades. Now they were expecting an exhausted Pakistan to beg Uncle Sam for mercy. A Pakistan that would kneel and plead the US for repentance. A Pakistan that would accept its role as a slave of India. A Pakistan that would compromise on all outstanding conflicts and issues. A Pakistan that would become a post WWII Japan where US military bases and hookers are up for grabs. Things have taken a very VERY different turn here. One that the Americans hadn't calculated in their worst dreams.

Janab sirji, look at bigger picture. This is Bharti garbage using national interest completely as their lobbiest. They are working with an aim to make a dirty image of Pakistan.

This Zionist mouthpiece is jumping around between Iran and Pakistan to paint some kind of correlation which does not exist.

US invasion of Afghanistan was illegal and counterproductive, but the US bullied the whole world to support or stay silent. Now normalcy has returned and all foreign actors have run out of resources and support.

We have to be careful of the AEI, this is a rightwing think tank which is largely funded by oil companies in the US and has deep links to Dick Cheney and his Bush administration.

They also host Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is a blasphemer and fierce hater of Islam, particularly the Prophet Muhammad saws. That alone shows their mindset.

They are having a difficult time accepting that the ball they started rolling has gotten away from them.

We Pakistanis should be publishing rebuttals in English against this blatant fear mongering. Unfortunately our English media is bought and sold to these same Western propagandists.

In sha Allah, I think galvanized us to realize the mountain of lies which we face on a daily basis spewing out from Washington, London, New Delhi, Tel Aviv, Tehran, Kabul, and other capitals.

This site national interest is mostly pajeeti mouthpiece.

 

[cloud4000]

Janab sirji, look at bigger picture. This is Bharti garbage using national interest completely as their lobbiest. They are working with an aim to make a dirty image of Pakistan.

How many pro-Pakistan publications are there in the US? Not many. You can blame India all you want, but it doesn't hide the fact that Pakistan failed to expand its image in US while India did.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Does this stupid author not remember what happened to the Soviet in afghanistan and it was Pakistan that helped mujahdeen fighters defeat the mighty soviets

A zionist kike.

 

[MastanKhan]

Simply put, the U.S. willingness to accept a flawed ‘peace’ deal with the Taliban has convinced Taliban sponsors within Pakistan’s military and all-powerful intelligence service not only that Washington is weak and its concerns not worthy of serious attention, but also that Pakistan can gratuitously humiliate the United States as Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan pivots the country further into China’s orbit.

In 1985, when Hezbollah kidnapped four Russian diplomats in Beirut, killing one, Moscow’s retaliation was swift. Different versions of the story exist, but they all have one thing in common: A Hezbollah commander began receiving body parts of a close relative through the mail. Hezbollah released the remaining hostages and never took another Russian.

Hezbollah may not have liked the Soviets, but they quickly learned that they could not mess with Russians. Contrast that with Pakistan today. On April 2, a Pakistani court voided a murder conviction of Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh who kidnapped and then videotaped his slaughter of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

Welcome to the world after the U.S.-Taliban realm, negotiated by U.S. Special Envoy Zalmay Khalilzad. Simply put, the U.S. willingness to accept a flawed ‘peace’ deal with the Taliban has convinced Taliban sponsors within Pakistan’s military and all-powerful intelligence service not only that Washington is weak and its concerns not worthy of serious attention, but also that Pakistan can gratuitously humiliate the United States as Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan pivots the country further into China’s orbit.

Khalilzad is now zero for two in high stakes diplomacy. It was Khalilzad, after all, who negotiated the 2003 Geneva deal with now-Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif in which the U.S. government accepted the Iranian pledge not to infiltrate militias and forces into Iraq--which clearly they did not follow. Already, it appears the Taliban were no more sincere. The Taliban reject the very legitimacy of the elected Afghan government, and so their refusal to recognize its negotiating team should not surprise. Taliban attacks have continued unabated. The evidence exposing Pakistan’s support for the Taliban and its covert relationship with Al Qaeda remains overwhelming. Not only did Al Qaeda founder Usama Bin Laden find shelter in a townhome to Pakistan’s primary military academy, but U.S. forces killed the leader of Al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent during a raid on a Taliban compound.

President Donald Trump may feel he has fulfilled a promise to end America’s longest war, but it would be a mistake for the administration to believe its own spin, because no one else does. Al Qaeda has lauded the Taliban’s “great victory” and a “humiliating defeat” for the United States. "Even if we don't say that the U.S. is defeated in Afghanistan, it is an open secret now that they are defeated," Anas Haqqani, son of the Haqqani network’s founder, told the press. Pakistani religious officials broadcast how America was “begging for peace and escape.”

What happens in Afghanistan doesn’t stay in Afghanistan, however: That was the lesson of the pre-9/11 era, and it is even more true today. Trump has warned Iranian-backed militias in Iraq not to attack American interests but why should they listen? Even if the United States launches the occasional airstrike or even kills top Iranian commanders like Qassem Soleimani, the Taliban deal show that the United States will ultimately ignore state-sponsors of terror and maintain the fiction that deals struck with their proxies matter. Revolutionary Guardsmen inside Iranian territory can rest assured first that the Trump administration will not hold them to account for the actions of Iranian-backed militias just as they have not meaningfully held any Pakistan generals responsible for the Taliban. The Iranian-backed proxies, for their part, understand if they simply continue or even escalate their attacks, the United States will eventually retreat. It worked in Beirut during the Reagan administration, and it worked in Basra, so why shouldn’t it work for Baghdad?

Nor is the problem just the Middle East. Russia and China look at recent U.S. fecklessness and conclude that U.S. diplomacy need not be respected. In Syria, Vladimir Putin played poker with the Obama administration and somehow managed to beat a royal flush with a pair of twos. Just as Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev calculated that Jimmy Carter’s 1979 abandonment of the Shah of Iran and impotence as revolutionaries seized American hostages meant that he could invade Afghanistan with impunity, so too might Putin conclude that U.S. weakness means he could act against Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, or ethnic-Russian regions of Kazakhstan without fear of consequence. Taiwan, too, must look at recent Trump moves on Afghanistan and recognize that the White House would not lift a finger to defend it when push comes to shove.

Ceasing “endless wars” might be the slogan of the day, but how wars end matter. Progressives and liberals say that diplomacy should be the strategy of first resort. They are right. But when the United States loses credibility on the battlefield and adversaries concluded that Washington neither has the will nor the way, they will run roughshod over American interests. Pakistan’s release of Pearl’s killer is only the beginning.

Michael Rubin is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). You can follow him on Twitter: @mrubin1971.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/m...-showing-us-enemies-how-defeat-america-140572

Hi,

The body came back in pieces in a bag and the mutilated genitals were sewn to the mouth---.

Hezbollah never touched the russians again---.

 

[Genghis khan1]

This guy (Ruben) is all over the places trying to create connections and analogies. Rubbish.