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If that's the case Iran should brain wash their citizens not our people remember how furious they were when we were about to send our forces to yemen
 
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If that's the case Iran should brain wash their citizens not our people remember how furious they were when we were about to send our forces to yemen


Syria war is a global war, not a local conflict. Besides, Pakistani soldiers do not dare fight Houthis. These are hardcore Islamists who are not afraid of death. Saudi soldiers do not dare fight Houthis because they are not religious like that.
 
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not after Chabahar

that's been there for years long before Gwadar no different from china investing in Pakistan or when we were still backing afghan taliban when Iran was near the point of war with them .
Iranians are far more tolerant,educated and liberal compared to Arabs and they are our neighbour saudis are not. Don't forget they are one of the most racist peoples on earth and their treatment of south Asians is infamous .The catalyst for wot 9/11 which brought war to our doorstep all hijacker were Arabs and OBL was a Saudi yet it is us Pakistanis/Afghans/Iranians who have suffered and are painted with stigma of being terrorists or a rogue state when saudis and other Arab gulf states like Qatar are biggest sponsors of ISIS and TTP and detrimental mullah infuence in pakistan .
 
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A video of the Zainabyoun unit;



These guys are misguided .. One can understand of somebody goes to fight ISIS .. But them fighting for Assad regime or the terrorists from TTP or LeJ c.nts can be dangerous for Pak..

Iran should give them citizenship and the Saudis etc should keep the wahabi gangs.



To be Asshead or FSA (fukhead suckers association) are one in the same... Two sides of the same coin..

If im not mistaken they are form Hangu or parachinar

Syria war is a global war, not a local conflict. Besides, Pakistani soldiers do not dare fight Houthis. These are hardcore Islamists who are not afraid of death. Saudi soldiers do not dare fight Houthis because they are not religious like that.
If that was the status of our Army that they are afraid of death than our enemies would have conquered us
 
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If that was the status of our Army that they are afraid of death than our enemies would have conquered us


Pakistan army has good arms. Should be able to deal with TPP. TPP is much weaker than Afghan Taliban.
 
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that's been there for years long before Gwadar no different from china investing in Pakistan or when we were still backing afghan taliban when Iran was near the point of war with them .
Iranians are far more tolerant,educated and liberal compared to Arabs and they are our neighbour saudis are not. Don't forget they are one of the most racist peoples on earth and their treatment of south Asians is infamous .The catalyst for wot 9/11 which brought war to our doorstep all hijacker were Arabs and OBL was a Saudi yet it is us Pakistanis/Afghans/Iranians who have suffered and are painted with stigma of being terrorists or a rogue state when saudis and other Arab gulf states like Qatar are biggest sponsors of ISIS and TTP and detrimental mullah infuence in pakistan .

Not after Chabahar!!!! its as simple as that

i am all for not blindly doing Saudi bidding but Chabahar is a stab in the back and one we should not forget
 
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Not after Chabahar!!!! its as simple as that

i am all for not blindly doing Saudi bidding but Chabahar is a stab in the back and one we should not forget

lol.. Get over it bro..

India begged Pakistan for 70 years for central asia trade route, we declined them, now they have decided to go with Iran.. Whats wrong in it..?? Why didnt we stopped them from joining chahbahar? We ourselves are first founder of chahbhar..
 
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To all those going
Khuda hafiz never return to Pakistan and may you die a painful death
 
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fatimyoon or whatever are terrorist and traitor of Pakistan..
 
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lol.. Get over it bro..

India begged Pakistan for 70 years for central asia trade route, we declined them, now they have decided to go with Iran.. Whats wrong in it..?? Why didnt we stopped them from joining chahbahar? We ourselves are first founder of chahbhar..

we will still attempt to counter india both in Afghanistan and beyond but allowing access to india near to our balochistan border is like us allowing israel/Saudi/U.S to set up a "burger joint" near to the Iranian border so they can sell burgers knowing full well they will take the opportunity to screw iran.

what the Iranians have done is unforgivable and we need to harm indias endeavours in the area
 
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Someone from Pakistan should not be fighting other nation's pointless wars. Shia oppression in Pakistan also leads to some of these crazy people going to fight in Syria for Assad. We should make shias feel part of the country and deal with an iron hand when it comes to Sipah e Sahaba and Laskar E Jhangvi.
 
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The Zainabiyoun Brigade: A Pakistani Shiite Militia Amid the Syrian Conflict
Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 14 Issue: 11
May 27, 2016 05:48 PM Age: 18 days
By: Farhan Zahid

Shia fighters in Damascus (Source: tribune.com.pk)

Since the outbreak of Syrian Civil War in 2011, a plethora of violent Islamist groups have surfaced in various parts of the country, some fighting for the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad, and many fighting against it. According to an estimate from the Soufan Group, nationals from 81 different countries are fighting in Syria (Soufan Group, 2014). Some have come to defend their sects; others are proxies for foreign interests or have been recruited as mercenaries. As the conflict has grown increasingly sectarian, these foreign fighters have also become divided along sectarian lines, with a number of liwas (groups) named after Shia and Sunni heroes, often from the early Islamic period.

Pakistani jihadis were latecomers to the Syrian conflict, but began to appear in 2013 in response to a rocket attack by Salafi militias on the shrine of Zainab in Damascus. That attack – comparable for many Shia to the destruction of the Church of Holy Sepulcher by Fatimid Caliph Al-Hakim Amr-Allah, in 1009, an event that paved the way for the Crusades – was the impetus for the formation of the Zainabiyoun Brigade.

Pakistani Fighters Join the Syrian Conflict

The involvement of Pakistani jihadists in Syria is of little surprise. Pakistan itself has been experiencing Sunni-Shia sectarian violence since at least 1986, and violence has hitherto claimed 9,904 lives in 3,021 incidents of sectarian attacks. [1] Though various sects of Sunni-Islam (Deobandi, Barelvi, Sufi, and Salafi/Wahabi) are in a majority in Pakistan, Shias make up about 20 to 25 percent of the population. Pakistan’s proximity to Iran in the southwest provides Shia Muslims a base of support against a heavy Sunni influence in Pakistan.

By 2013, a number of Pakistani Shias were already keen to join the fight against the ideologically Salafist Islamic State (IS), a result of IS’ campaign of destruction targeting Shia holy shrines in Syria and Iraq. The 2013 rocket attack by IS on the Sayeeda Zainab mosque in central Damascus, which destroyed the outer walls of the shrine of Zainab, the sister of Imam Hussain and granddaughter of Mohammed, provided the catalyst; a new militant unit of Pakistani Shias, the Zainabiyoun Brigade, was raised with Iranian support. [2] Up until this point, the security of the tomb of Zainab was the responsibility of the Liwa Abul Fadl al-Abbas, which was comprised of Iraqi and Syrian Shia volunteers. This iwa was also responsible for securing holy shrines in Aleppo where its rival, the Harakat Nour al-Din al-Zenki, a brigade afiliated with IS, inflicted a crushing defeat on it in May 2014.

The Zainabiyoun Brigade

According to the Zainabiyoun Facebook page, volunteers must be between 18-35 years of age and physically fit. They are offered up to Rs. 120,000/ ($1200) as a monthly salary with 15 days of holidays after three months. Their current strength is estimated to be 1,000 fighters (Express Tribune [Pakistan], December 11, 2015). Many fighters are from the Shia-dominated Parachinar, in the Kurrum district of Pakistan’s lawless Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA). Some are ethnic Baluch are also fighters, although it is unclear whether they hail from Pakistani or Iranian Baluchistan (al-Akhbar, March 29, 2013).

The Zainabiyoun Brigade has been largely restricted to Damascus where scores of its fighters were supposedly killed while defending the shrine of Zainab. [3] In another battle on April 9, 2015, another seven were killed defending the Imam Hasan Mosque in Damascus. The Brigade has also fought alongside Syrian forces in the Darra region, in southern Syria (MEMRI, May 5, 2015).

The primary recruiters, financers, and handlers for the Pakistani fighters in Syria are the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and Al-Quds Force, which back the Syrian regime and have helped secure Shia cities such as Latakia, Aleppo, and Damascus.

Iran has previous experience from recruiting Afghan Shia from among the three million strong Afghan refugees in Iran. Though many of them joined the war for sectarian reasons, others were offered Iranian citizenship and handsome salaries of up to $1,100 (Al Jazeera, January 22). They received training from the IRGC in Iran and Syria, and assembled in a separate unit known as the Fatimayoun.

At least six fighters from the Zainabiyoun Brigade died in fighting in March 2016 and were buried in the Iranian holy city of Qom (Farda News, March 3). On April 23, in a separate battle, five more Pakistanis were killed and later also buried Qom (Radio Free Europe, April 25, 2015).

Anti-Shia violence in Pakistan

In Pakistan, anti-Shia attacks have been directed in response to the establishment of the Zainabiyoun Brigade. A bomb blast in downtown Parachinar, a Shia majority town in Kurrum district of tribal areas, in December 2015 killed 23 people and wounded 30 others. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (al-Alami Faction), the anti-Shia violent group, claimed responsibility. In a statement, the Islamist group’s spokesperson Ali Abu Sufyan said the attack was “revenge [for] the crimes against Syrian Muslims by Iran and Bashar al-Assad” and a warning to the people in Parachinar to “stop sending people to take part in Syrian war” (Express Tribune, December 13, 2015).

Pakistan’s Sunnis have also committed fighters to Syria. An IS cell in Sialkot, which was busted by security forces in 2015, was in direct communications with IS leaders and had sent more than 100 Islamist militants to fight alongside the IS forces in Syria and Iraq (NDTV, January 5). Those arrested were previously part of the Salafi Islamist group Jamaat ud Dawa. Besides the Sialkot cell, two other cells were uncovered in Karachi and Islamabad in 2015.

IS has found that by playing the anti-Shia card it can win support from among ant-Shia groups in Pakistan and elsewhere. The presence of IS in Pakistan – which until recently had been denied by the Pakistani government – as well as continued sectarian violence means the membership of the Zainabiyoun Brigade is likely to grow.

So too, Iran will likely support a large role for the Zainabiyoun Brigade. It appears eager to bolster the ranks of Pakistani and Afghan Shia militants in Syria, as it seeks to roll back some of its involvement in the fighting.

Notes

[1] Figures taken from the South Asia Terrorism Portal database.

[2] Telephone Interview with Syrian refugee in Brussels, Belgium (May 4, 2016)

[3] Telephone interview with Syrian refugee in Brussels, Belgium (May 18, 2016)
 
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we will still attempt to counter india both in Afghanistan and beyond but allowing access to india near to our balochistan border is like us allowing israel/Saudi/U.S to set up a "burger joint" near to the Iranian border so they can sell burgers knowing full well they will take the opportunity to screw iran.

what the Iranians have done is unforgivable and we need to harm indias endeavours in the area

instead of whining how about we build fence, walls, gates and other security infrastruture and keep ourselve save from terrorism once and for all from Afghanistan and chahbahar...

Who stopped us..? We can have whoever (israeli, saudi) we want in gwadar, Iran have no say in it, just like we have no say in chahbahar matter..
Troll with action, whining is indian trait..
 
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Those who try to return to Pakistan cut off their heads shia militia will face their death by the rebels
 
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The Zainabiyoun Brigade: A Pakistani Shiite Militia Amid the Syrian Conflict
Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 14 Issue: 11
May 27, 2016 05:48 PM Age: 18 days
By: Farhan Zahid

Shia fighters in Damascus (Source: tribune.com.pk)

Since the outbreak of Syrian Civil War in 2011, a plethora of violent Islamist groups have surfaced in various parts of the country, some fighting for the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad, and many fighting against it. According to an estimate from the Soufan Group, nationals from 81 different countries are fighting in Syria (Soufan Group, 2014). Some have come to defend their sects; others are proxies for foreign interests or have been recruited as mercenaries. As the conflict has grown increasingly sectarian, these foreign fighters have also become divided along sectarian lines, with a number of liwas (groups) named after Shia and Sunni heroes, often from the early Islamic period.

Pakistani jihadis were latecomers to the Syrian conflict, but began to appear in 2013 in response to a rocket attack by Salafi militias on the shrine of Zainab in Damascus. That attack – comparable for many Shia to the destruction of the Church of Holy Sepulcher by Fatimid Caliph Al-Hakim Amr-Allah, in 1009, an event that paved the way for the Crusades – was the impetus for the formation of the Zainabiyoun Brigade.

Pakistani Fighters Join the Syrian Conflict

The involvement of Pakistani jihadists in Syria is of little surprise. Pakistan itself has been experiencing Sunni-Shia sectarian violence since at least 1986, and violence has hitherto claimed 9,904 lives in 3,021 incidents of sectarian attacks. [1] Though various sects of Sunni-Islam (Deobandi, Barelvi, Sufi, and Salafi/Wahabi) are in a majority in Pakistan, Shias make up about 20 to 25 percent of the population. Pakistan’s proximity to Iran in the southwest provides Shia Muslims a base of support against a heavy Sunni influence in Pakistan.

By 2013, a number of Pakistani Shias were already keen to join the fight against the ideologically Salafist Islamic State (IS), a result of IS’ campaign of destruction targeting Shia holy shrines in Syria and Iraq. The 2013 rocket attack by IS on the Sayeeda Zainab mosque in central Damascus, which destroyed the outer walls of the shrine of Zainab, the sister of Imam Hussain and granddaughter of Mohammed, provided the catalyst; a new militant unit of Pakistani Shias, the Zainabiyoun Brigade, was raised with Iranian support. [2] Up until this point, the security of the tomb of Zainab was the responsibility of the Liwa Abul Fadl al-Abbas, which was comprised of Iraqi and Syrian Shia volunteers. This iwa was also responsible for securing holy shrines in Aleppo where its rival, the Harakat Nour al-Din al-Zenki, a brigade afiliated with IS, inflicted a crushing defeat on it in May 2014.

The Zainabiyoun Brigade

According to the Zainabiyoun Facebook page, volunteers must be between 18-35 years of age and physically fit. They are offered up to Rs. 120,000/ ($1200) as a monthly salary with 15 days of holidays after three months. Their current strength is estimated to be 1,000 fighters (Express Tribune [Pakistan], December 11, 2015). Many fighters are from the Shia-dominated Parachinar, in the Kurrum district of Pakistan’s lawless Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA). Some are ethnic Baluch are also fighters, although it is unclear whether they hail from Pakistani or Iranian Baluchistan (al-Akhbar, March 29, 2013).

The Zainabiyoun Brigade has been largely restricted to Damascus where scores of its fighters were supposedly killed while defending the shrine of Zainab. [3] In another battle on April 9, 2015, another seven were killed defending the Imam Hasan Mosque in Damascus. The Brigade has also fought alongside Syrian forces in the Darra region, in southern Syria (MEMRI, May 5, 2015).

The primary recruiters, financers, and handlers for the Pakistani fighters in Syria are the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and Al-Quds Force, which back the Syrian regime and have helped secure Shia cities such as Latakia, Aleppo, and Damascus.

Iran has previous experience from recruiting Afghan Shia from among the three million strong Afghan refugees in Iran. Though many of them joined the war for sectarian reasons, others were offered Iranian citizenship and handsome salaries of up to $1,100 (Al Jazeera, January 22). They received training from the IRGC in Iran and Syria, and assembled in a separate unit known as the Fatimayoun.

At least six fighters from the Zainabiyoun Brigade died in fighting in March 2016 and were buried in the Iranian holy city of Qom (Farda News, March 3). On April 23, in a separate battle, five more Pakistanis were killed and later also buried Qom (Radio Free Europe, April 25, 2015).

Anti-Shia violence in Pakistan

In Pakistan, anti-Shia attacks have been directed in response to the establishment of the Zainabiyoun Brigade. A bomb blast in downtown Parachinar, a Shia majority town in Kurrum district of tribal areas, in December 2015 killed 23 people and wounded 30 others. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (al-Alami Faction), the anti-Shia violent group, claimed responsibility. In a statement, the Islamist group’s spokesperson Ali Abu Sufyan said the attack was “revenge [for] the crimes against Syrian Muslims by Iran and Bashar al-Assad” and a warning to the people in Parachinar to “stop sending people to take part in Syrian war” (Express Tribune, December 13, 2015).

Pakistan’s Sunnis have also committed fighters to Syria. An IS cell in Sialkot, which was busted by security forces in 2015, was in direct communications with IS leaders and had sent more than 100 Islamist militants to fight alongside the IS forces in Syria and Iraq (NDTV, January 5). Those arrested were previously part of the Salafi Islamist group Jamaat ud Dawa. Besides the Sialkot cell, two other cells were uncovered in Karachi and Islamabad in 2015.

IS has found that by playing the anti-Shia card it can win support from among ant-Shia groups in Pakistan and elsewhere. The presence of IS in Pakistan – which until recently had been denied by the Pakistani government – as well as continued sectarian violence means the membership of the Zainabiyoun Brigade is likely to grow.

So too, Iran will likely support a large role for the Zainabiyoun Brigade. It appears eager to bolster the ranks of Pakistani and Afghan Shia militants in Syria, as it seeks to roll back some of its involvement in the fighting.

Notes

[1] Figures taken from the South Asia Terrorism Portal database.

[2] Telephone Interview with Syrian refugee in Brussels, Belgium (May 4, 2016)

[3] Telephone interview with Syrian refugee in Brussels, Belgium (May 18, 2016)
I don't know why Iran needs our people, our shia brothers to fight their wars? Why not use Iranian citizens who are much more accepting of such a role?
 
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