roadrunner
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Er....hundred years from now? Hello? Thats your argument?
I'm just pointing out that it's invalid to say that two regions are culturally similar and then to point out that this is evidence that that are not distinct regions. You have to look at why they are culturally similar, and the reason is that the two regions (India and Pakistan) were recently unified, else there would be absolutely no cultural similarity. If Pakistan was still part of the Persian Empire, no doubts Pakistani soccer would be much better than its cricket. It's just to point out that cultural stuff comes and goes. So it's not a very good criteria for two regions as being distinct or similar.
Really, from what I hear dowry is rampant in Pakistan too, irrespective of what Islam has to say on the issue:
Dowry alive and kicking -DAWN - The Review; April 27, 2006
Well it's not dowry. In Pakistan, dowry is given to the woman, India (with Hindus), it's given to the man. That's the cause of the dowry problems. Some daft Paks might be getting dowrys from some Hindu in-laws or something, dunno, but it doesn't work like that in Pakistan.
But I get the drift of your arguments....you are implying that Pakistanis are superior to Indians in all aspects, and therfore don't deserve to be compared with these inferior people. Fine, whatever makes you happy.
lol, not at all. Hindus arent inferior or superior. Just another group of people believing what they want to. Nothing wrong with it. Believe what you want, if you want others to be sympathetic towards you.
Fact is, that Punjab, Haryana, Uttaranchal, UP and Pakistan are culturally more similar to each other than the South Indian states. Interestingly, there was no movement to separate India as North and South. Infact, much of South India remained Independent throughout history and even Mughal period.
Pakistan isn't similar to Uttarunchal or the other one, UP. Punjab perhaps has some similarity, Punjab was one unit after all, but culturally the two Punjabs are very different now. One Punjab is Hindu run, the other Muslim run. That is quite a big cultural difference. It's not to say that were all the Hindus in Indian Punjab to become Muslim (or the other way round with the Muslims in Pakistan), then the cultures would be the same. The current cultural sense isn't really much of an issue for me, as it can change. But Indian Punjab looks to have been overrun to me by South Indians. When I look at street scenes of the place, it looks like South India to me.
By the way, what is this obsession with Alexander? Does the introduction of the Alexander Factor suddenly make India and Pakistan irrecoverably different?
No, it doesn't. But you suggested that the Greek Empire's Eastern Satrapy (Pakistan) was somehow different to the rest of the Greek Empire. I just gave examples of some of the many Greek influences on Pakistan that prove it was much more than just an ignored Satrapy of the Greek Empire. In fact Alexander liked Afghanistan and Pakistan so much that he moved whole carriages of Greek people to the region. So begins the now proven genetic influence (a minor one, but is present) on some of the Afghan and Pakistani people.
What about the fact that those stupa designs originated from the east?
The stupa designs were not all originating from the East. Most of the stupas in Pakistan were built by Alexander. His influence on the region is acknowledged
"Taxila had attracted Alexander the great from Macedonia in 326 BC, with whom the influence of Greek culture came to this part of the world."
:: Buddhist Travel ::
Jandial Temple is a pure Greek temple in Pakistan.
What about the fact that buddhism itself arose in the east?
Buddha might have come from the East (Nepal), but he and his followers were persecuted in India, which is why he came to the Indus Valley. His teachings were built on further to create Mahayana Buddhism (arising in Gandhara), which was transmitted along the Silk Route to China, Japan etc.
Why would you give more weight to differences and ignore the similarities?
What similarities?
Sadly, Kashmiris have been influenced by Anti-India propaganda coming from pakistan and Religious fundamentalists.
Dude, this is denial. Kashmiris know that their ancestors are closer to Pakistani people and the Indus Valley, than to Indians and the Ganges. This is no propaganda. Don't treat Kashmiris as brainless, and tell them their ancestry arises out of India. They know it does not. One look at them and you can tell they look more like some Pakistanis than virtually any Indian groups.
Sikhs Rebelled? Go to Punjab now and say Khalistan...everyone will laugh at you.
Dude in the 80s Sikhs were rebelling all over the Punjab. I guess Amritsar never occurred!
Assamese ULFA is a caricature of an extremist organization. They don't have any mass movement and go around blasting bombs in schools....not a nice way to win public support.
They don't have public support, yet you can't defeat them. No resistance movement can survive without public support!
Tamils had movement? You are joking right? Ah...perhaps the language riots of the 60s....that was definitely not what you call a "freedom movement".
Fact is, that the current democratic govt. gives equal representation to all territories and culture. There is no dominating power in India by any ethnic group.
Read up about the history of the DMK party. An extremely popular Tamil secessionist movement that won the support of much of South India to seperate from North India.