Pakistan, Iran connected by inseparable bonds: Imran Khan

[Mamluk]

Lol. Non-Muslim internet crusaders are always trying to play the sectarian divide.

Sunnis and Shias aren’t very different in religious practice. We don’t have many issues in Pakistan.

Deobandi Hanafi Sunni Muslims tend to have similar political views also to Iranian Ithna Ashari Shia Muslims.

The Middle Eastern Sunni-Shia conflict is alien to us. Over there it is fuelled by the Arab-Iran rivalry.

India wants to import the conflict to South Asia, following in the footstep of British colonial divide and conquer policy. The Mullahs of Iran would like to see the same - they need canon fodders for their war in the Middle East and sectarian conflict anywhere provides a fertile ground for their recruitment efforts.

 

[dilpakistani]

Iran with all it's resources and vibrant cultural society is an integral Part of Muslim Ummah. It's land area, it's geographic importance, it's natural resources and it's human capital is one of the finest in the whole Ummah. Its integration with rest of the muslim world is better for Iran and for the muslim world as a whole. Without Iran we are not even half as powerful together.

 

[padamchen]

Iran with all it's resources and vibrant cultural society is an integral Part of Muslim Ummah. It's land area, it's geographic importance, it's natural resources and it's human capital is one of the finest in the whole Ummah. Its integration with rest of the muslim world is better for Iran and for the muslim world as a whole. Without Iran we are not even half as powerful together.

Naive.

Iran (specifically it's forced conversion and destruction of ancestral heritage by the first Muslims) is the reason there will never be an Ummah.

The first Muslims and the second Muslims have decided they have unfinished business, their love for Muhammad and Allah notwithstanding.

All other second-hand (non Prophet) converts need to get in line after that.

@I.R.A

Cheers, Doc

 

[dilpakistani]

Naive.

Iran (specifically it's forced conversion and destruction of ancestral heritage by the first Muslims) is the reason there will never be an Ummah.

The first Muslims and the second Muslims have decided they have unfinished business, their love for Muhammad and Allah notwithstanding.

All other second-hand (non Prophet) converts need to get in line after that.

@I.R.A

Cheers, Doc

I am not sure what you are referring to but the fact of today's world is Iran as a partner and stakeholder in Muslim countries is much more beneficial than Iran as an adversary

 

[padamchen]

I am not sure what you are referring to but the fact of today's world is Iran as a partner and stakeholder in Muslim countries is much more beneficial than Iran as an adversary

Oh I 100% agree it would be best for the Muslim world to have a cooperative Iran that is militarily strong and ideologically congruent and racially non-antagonstic.

Even adulatory.

Like Pakistan.

Cheers, Doc

 

[raptor22]

I disagree. The presence of the Iranian mullah regime ensures that the GCC remain in the USA camp. Imagine a scenario where Iran, Pakistan and KSA were all on friendly terms.

The USA waited 10-15 years after sanctions before they invaded Iraq. If you think they're done in Syria you're in for a surprise. They have you surrounded physically from three sides.

Russia is one election away from going the way of Yelstin, just saying.

The ONLY way out for the Iranian mullah regime is to test a nuke.

Save yourself and test a nuke now.

Well apparently you ain't familiar with petrodollar, PGCC has been in the USA camp and gonna remain for as long as it possible Iran is irrelevant, you mean a bunch of wealthy Arab countries foreign policy in the past 5 decades have been shaped by Iran? no they've been a pawn, they are gonna remain a pawn:

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The Rise of the Petrodollar System
The petrodollar system originated in the early 1970s in the wake of the Bretton Woods collapse.

President Richard M. Nixon and his globalist sidekick, Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, knew that their destruction of the international gold standard under the Bretton Woods arrangement would cause a decline in the artificial global demand of the U.S. dollar. Maintaining this "artificial dollar demand" was vital if the United States were to continue expanding its "welfare and warfare" spending. In a series of meetings, the United States — represented by then U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger — and the Saudi royal family made a powerful agreement.

According to the agreement, the United States would offer military protection for Saudi Arabia’s oil fields. The U.S. also agreed to provide the Saudis with weapons, and perhaps most importantly, guaranteed protection from Israel.

The Saudi royal family knew a good deal when they saw one. They were more than happy to accept American weapons and a U.S. guarantee to restrain attacks from neighboring Israel.

Naturally, the Saudis wondered how much was all of this U.S. military muscle was going to cost…

What exactly did the United States want in exchange for their weapons and military protection?

The Americans laid out their terms. They were simple, and two-fold.

1. The Saudis must agree to price all of their oil sales in U.S. dollars only. (In other words, the Saudis were to refuse all other currencies, except the U.S. dollar, as payment for their oil exports.)
2. The Saudis would be open to investing their surplus oil proceeds in U.S. debt securities.

As you see they've already traded their independence in exchange of the uncle Sam protection decades ago and now they've got addicted to this in a way they can not get rid of it however Iranian rejected that idea and revolted against the US puppet .. now you blame Iran?

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[drmeson]

Pakistan culturally has been a southern Iranic + North Indian country through out that regions history. That being said, geno and phenotype wise Iranians and majority modern day Pakistanis have less to do with each other despite some moderate level overlaps. This is because of population density is least for both countries in the border region hence consistent level interaction never happened. In comparison to Pakistan, Iranians are geno or phenotypically more closer to Anatolian or Turkish people because populations have been interactive because of proximity. Whatever Iranic gene flow entered Pakistani region, happened through invasions or migrations which are not consistent events hence less overlaps.

These are the Morphs of Phenotypes of Iranics (Iran, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Armenia, Kurdistan, Anatolia/Turkey etc). Some of these types may exist in western side pakistanis i.e. Pashtuns and baloch, Kalash or rarely in the the Indo Sychtian or Indo Aryan tribes.

These are the Morphs of Phenotypical Pakistanis (North Indian, Indus valley, Southern Iranic plateau). The first type is the Nord Indid which is considered to be the resultant of Indo Aryan or Indo Sychtian migration. I guess that is the most common type in Pakistan.

Most Pakistanis live on their eastern side while most Iranians live on their western side. Hence, population interaction and mixing has not happened.

To me Pakistan is half southern Iranian country which maintains its Iranic identity well. Modern day political fluctuations do not matter in grand history of thousands of years.