Pakistan Icbm Missile Test In 2018 and 2019 Urdu & Hindi

[countryman]

very short sighted thinking.
had Iraq the ability to hit back would they have attacked if his missile could have reached London rome paris and Washington?
I am amazed at you guys.

But why would someone hit us - use diplomacy to counter these threats not counter threats unless you really want more enemies. Also, what will we get from testing larger rocket motor that will ultimately block all of our defense supplies? We should focus on traditional warfare, capacity building and indignation along with building our economy and miscalculation will suffocate all of these. Maybe ballistic missile defense systems are not much capable today but who knows about tomorrow? Instead of poking others we should be making our defense invincible.

 

[Trango Towers]

But why would someone hit us - what will be get from testing larger rocket motor that will ultimately block all of our defense supplies? We should focus on traditional warfare, capacity building and indignation along with building our economy and miscalculation will suffocate all of these. Maybe ballistic missile defense systems are not much capable today but who knows about tomorrow? Instead of poking others we should be build making our defense invincible.

why has America been threatening....why not have a deterrent. if they know that we can hit back they will think 10 times. if they know we cant hit back they will do what they like.
mate regarding building your economy....the west tech development is based on military tech....eg.. gps that you use for navigation to smart phones to military vehicles all started out in the military sector and they came to civilian use. even road initially were built by romans for military purposes. saab safari now mushawk is a good earner for pakistan selling to Saudi qatar turkey Nigeria to name a few. jf17 has been selling and block 3 will be awesome.
its creating jobs in pakistan for engineers and scientists.

 

[Kopa Shamsu]

you have been watching star wars again..............what space based interceptors are out there? if they were there NK wouldn't make USA piss in their pants

same star wars theory US did put in front of USSR,they bluffed they were building space based weapons to counter USSR,USSR did fall in US trap(before that US never bluffed) and tried to outmatch it by increasing nukes,there came their economic downfall.These missile defense is marketing stunt to eat up tax payers money.another tactic is to put pressure on enemy to create more nukes so their economy will take hit like USSR. The basic physics on which ICBM is based is far superior than any missile defense,it requires hundreds of billions of dollars but then it can easily be overwhelmed .The only way to shot down ICBM is energy weapon
problem--->> where is that much energy?

 

[Trango Towers]

same star wars theory US did put in front of USSR,they bluffed they were building space based weapons to counter USSR,USSR did fall in US trap(before that US never bluffed) and tried to outmatch it by increasing nukes,there came their economic downfall.These missile defense is marketing stunt to eat up tax payers money.another tactic is to put pressure on enemy to create more nukes so their economy will take hit like USSR. The basic physics on which ICBM is based is far superior than any missile defense,it requires hundreds of billions of dollars but then it can easily be overwhelmed .The only way to shot down ICBM is energy weapon
problem--->> where is that much energy?

additionally if you have multiple warheads ejected upon re-entry its an additional headache.

 

[CriticalThought]

you have been watching star wars again..............what space based interceptors are out there? if they were there NK wouldn't make USA piss in their pants

Funnily enough I asked the same question of my American ex-security clearance holder friend. He told me to take it or leave it, but the proof will be available if anyone attacks.

That said, we know for certain that America today wields space based assets of very long endurance, whose very mission profile and capabilities are classified.

https://www.space.com/30245-x37b-military-space-plane-100-days.html

https://www.rt.com/usa/196988-air-force-space-plane-lands/

In short, no body knows the full extent of America's space capabilities, but prudent people are being cautious. For example, Dr. Maleeha Lodhi's speech at the UN

http://pakun.org/statements/First_Committee/2015/04072015-01.php

Meanwhile, new threats have arisen in areas such as hostile use of Outer Space, offensive cyber capabilities including cyber attacks on safeguarded nuclear facilities, development and use of Lethal Autonomous Weapon Systems (LAWS) and armed drones, as well as the development of advanced conventional hypersonic systems of global reach.

Seven,we must strengthen the international legal regime to prevent the militarization and weaponization of outer space.

What could be Pakistan's concern with weaponization of space given we are a nuclear armed country wielding ballistic missiles?

same star wars theory US did put in front of USSR,they bluffed they were building space based weapons to counter USSR,USSR did fall in US trap(before that US never bluffed) and tried to outmatch it by increasing nukes,there came their economic downfall.These missile defense is marketing stunt to eat up tax payers money.another tactic is to put pressure on enemy to create more nukes so their economy will take hit like USSR. The basic physics on which ICBM is based is far superior than any missile defense,it requires hundreds of billions of dollars but then it can easily be overwhelmed .The only way to shot down ICBM is energy weapon
problem--->> where is that much energy?

You are a singularly misinformed individual and I am calling you out again for spreading total BS on the forum. Cease and desist.

 

[countryman]

the west tech development is based on military tech....eg.. gps that you use for navigation to smart phones to military vehicles all started out in the military sector and they came to civilian use. even road initially were built by romans for military purposes

That is exactly what I'm trying to tell you. If you're thinking ICBM can save Pakistan from threats - you got it all wrong - it will strangle Pakistan. Despite such enormous of knowledge and technology, we're behind them by at-least 50 years and that is too much of a gap to fill except I'm a story writer or live in the land of fantasies.

Wars are won strategies not tools - they're only means and possessing right tools is something that matters. When WMDs are used, war is already lost if enemy state also posses the similar capability and you're saying we should focusing on revenge instead of preventing us reaching there. Anyway, I'm not up for debate, you should have already got what I'm trying to say.

 

[Trango Towers]

Funnily enough I asked the same question of my American ex-security clearance holder friend. He told me to take it or leave it, but the proof will be available if anyone attacks.

That said, we know for certain that America today wields space based assets of very long endurance, whose very mission profile and capabilities are classified.

https://www.space.com/30245-x37b-military-space-plane-100-days.html

https://www.rt.com/usa/196988-air-force-space-plane-lands/

In short, no body knows the full extent of America's space capabilities, but prudent people are being cautious. For example, Dr. Maleeha Lodhi's speech at the UN

http://pakun.org/statements/First_Committee/2015/04072015-01.php





What could be Pakistan's concern with weaponization of space given we are a nuclear armed country wielding ballistic missiles?



You are a singularly misinformed individual and I am calling you out again for spreading total BS on the forum. Cease and desist.

if America has space based assets no one else can see them. absolute croc. as he said take it or leave it. I suggest you leave it. the same Americans told us WMD in Iraq and all the terrorists are in pakistan and none in Afghanistan.

 

[Kopa Shamsu]

additionally if you have multiple warheads ejected upon re-entry its an additional headache.

and now even those warheads can themselves maneuver(MaRV),i am not sure specially hawaiian people would be really interested in depending on missile defense for saving them,if you know what i am talking about.

You are a singularly misinformed individual and I am calling you out again for spreading total BS on the forum. Cease and desist.

why don't you take your BS to somewhere else star wars loving little baby.
stop calling and mentioning my post.It sucks to get mentioned by babies.go and watch marvel series movies.

 

[Trango Towers]

That is exactly what I'm trying to tell you. If you're thinking ICBM can save Pakistan from threats - you got it all wrong - it will strangle Pakistan. Despite such enormous technology transfers, we're behind them by at-least 50 years and that is too much of a gap to fill except I'm a story writer or live in the land of fantasies.

Wars are won strategies not tools - they're only means and possessing right tools is something that matters. When WMDs are used, war is already lost if enemy state also posses the similar capability and you're saying we should focusing on revenge instead of preventing us reaching there. Anyway, I'm not up for debate, you should have already got what I'm trying to say.

'Wars are won strategies not tools' what a silly statement
if you have no tools and all the strategy how will you fight to start with if its imposed on you. that's why you need the tools to devise the strategy. am I talking to a pacifist at school?
WMDs are used, war is already lost the whole point of WMD is deterrence, but if you don't have them you get you *** kicked. Iraq is an example.

 

[CriticalThought]

if America has space based assets no one else can see them. absolute croc.

You need to re-read the post until you actually understand what's been written.

as he said take it or leave it. I suggest you leave it. the same Americans told us WMD in Iraq and all the terrorists are in pakistan and none in Afghanistan.

I am not asking you to believe the Americans. I am asking you to trust Dr. Maliha Lodhi.

 

[countryman]

'Wars are won strategies not tools' what a silly statement
if you have no tools and all the strategy how will you fight to start with if its imposed on you. that's why you need the tools to devise the strategy.

You're confusing yourself - strategy brings tools same as necessity is mother of invention not otherwise - wise people don't start making tools randomly and start thinking which one is fit for war when times comes, they carefully plan everything before it happens. Also, deterrence doesn't even ensure the conventional war will not happen today, but I can say for sure in near future things are going to get worse.

I talking to a pacifist at school

Looks like our conversation is starting to get clumsy, so, I'm pulling out before it gets uglier.

 

[Trango Towers]

You're confusing yourself - strategy brings tools same as necessity is mother of invention not otherwise - wise people don't start making tools randomly and start thinking which one is fit for war when times comes, they carefully plan everything before it happens. Also, deterrence doesn't even ensure the conventional war will not happen today, but I can say for sure in near future things are going to get worse.


Looks like our conversation is starting to get clumsy, so, I'm pulling out before it gets uglier.

no point talking then.....have a good day

 

[The Deterrent]

Not years...If we get desperate, we will probably add another motor as we have done in the past in missiles to extend their range.

We have successfully extended the ranges before, we can make the Shaheen (?[4]) an ICBM(though, less than 6500 at max)

Range extension to the existing 2750km range Shaheen-III is possible via adding another stage, but it won't be enough to touch even 5000km. Shaheen-III's capabilities are limited by design, specifically its diameter.

Pakistan's current and foreseeable strategic priorities (targetable reliably from anywhere inside mainland) are less than 4000km away.

But what about the rumors that US sabotaged few missile tests of NK by covert cyber attacks?
On Pakistan, I was assured that at least on operational missiles, Cyber attack is of no worry to us. though, I fear that while testing our Missiles, Cyber theft of the data we are collecting during the testing can be taken by the surveillance/ other equipments...

I wouldn't take those rumors seriously, several US analysts refuted them.
US Navy collects the data itself, there is a reason why they like to linger near the impact zone whenever Pakistan conducts test launches of significant importance. They don't even need to steal the data.