Pakistan has started fencing the border with Afghanistan

[Mercenary]

What nonsense is this? A Fence on the the mountainous terrain in the world?

Are they high or something? (pun intended)

 

[FaujHistorian]

What nonsense is this? A Fence on the the mountainous terrain in the world?

Are they high or something? (pun intended)

you live on Pak-af border?

 

[forcetrip]

I believe so.

Why would you think so low of us (your cousins from across the border)


p.s. Indian posters should side with Pakistan on this issue. No?

Not really. Why would they side with us? It will get more expensive for them too.

 

[Cherokee]

What took so long ?

 

[forcetrip]

I do side with Pak against talibs. But my question was only whether Pakistan has the money for such a setup - it's not just a fence, it's also continous monitoring, which is damned expensive.

Most of the border is practically a wall of mountains to begin with. Highest peaks double as towers too. Fencing and mining is a one time cost. I would suppose we can take a "kunda" from the Indian LOC to the AfPak LOC to work the electric fences.

 

[acid rain]

some sense after so long - good news, take our help in expertise if needed.

 

[fatman17]

should have been done long time ago - mine and fence the 45 entry and exits points along the border/durand line. there should be border posts manned by FC for monitoring these 45 points.

 

[FaujHistorian]

some sense after so long - good news, take our help in expertise if needed.

I am sure the consulate in jalalabad is already "helping" no?

 

[halupridol]

bye bye strategic depth

 

[Biplab Bijay]

This is kind of low key event, not covered from Pakistani side except few news articles.

Afghanistani gov should strongly support this action.

Afghan officials discuss barbed wire along Durand Line


our correspondent
Monday, July 14, 2014
From Print Edition

PESHAWAR: Afghanistan’s National Security Council on Sunday discussed the digging of trenches and installation of barbed wire by Pakistani security forces near the Paktika province along the Durand Line.

A press release made available to the Afghan Islamic Press (AIP) said that Afghan President Hamid Karzai chaired a meeting of the National Security Council at the Presidential Palace. The National Security Council directed the borders and tribal affairs and interior ministries to gather information about the exact location of the barbed wire and its distance from the zero line and present a report in the next meeting.

Speaking at the meeting, the ministers said terrorists recently killed and tortured innocent people on the pretext of cooperation with the Afghan government. They said several innocent people fell prey to the IEDs in Ghor, Helmand and Kunar provinces over the past one week.

The National Security Council directed security forces to take the terrorists to task with the support of the people. It is pertinent to mention that the Afghan government claimed on Thursday that Pakistan had started constructing checkposts and trenches near Kandahar along the Durand Line..


Afghan officials discuss barbed wire along Durand Line - thenews.com.pk





Also news from Afghan press

Afghanistan assesses barbed wire installation across Durand Line - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency

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Now you are talking. Actually, you should have done it first and after that you should have started the operation. Then you could have squeeze them just like a sandwich. Anyway. Its a good step. Make it three layered, electrified fencing.

 

[acid rain]

I am sure the consulate in jalalabad is already "helping" no?

They r busy aiding the downtrodden afghan and executing infra projects.

dont fall for ZH and hamid gul's shit.

 

[janon]

Most of the border is practically a wall of mountains to begin with. Highest peaks double as towers too. Fencing and mining is a one time cost. I would suppose we can take a "kunda" from the Indian LOC to the AfPak LOC to work the electric fences.

There is no shortage of mountains along the LOC either, is there? But terrorists have snuck in through mountains, and they will do it in Af-Pak as well. Heck, there are videos on youtube of Afghan talibs making their way through rocky mountains into Pakistan. (I won't post them here, because they come from jihadi propoganda sources.)

Fencing is a one time cost, but manning and monitoring it is a recurring expense. But anyway, if the alternative is continous war, then it's a smaller expense. I'm just not sure if it is that easy to insulate Pak and Afgh from each other, like India and Pak. One of the reasons is that the people living near the common borders have a lot of cultural affinity to each other, and think in terms of tribal or ethnic loyalties, rather than nationality. Can an electric fence put an end to the two way migration once and for all? In our case, it was a matter of keeping Pakistani jihadists and infiltrators out, not entire populations always migrating to and fro.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Problem is not only the fence but the original durrandline in red.Pakistan has already extracted upto the original line in kunar.On ocassion Pakistan has built checkpost in Afghanistan territory to expand the the boundry and has been successful in region's around bajaur and the rest of FATA.This is the reason the Fencing around FATA has begun.

Red is Original durrandline
While if current Pak-Afghan border

Iss mein soch ne wali baat kya hai. Tumhara mulk hai. Make the fencing with full force and dont listen to anyone. When it will be over, everybody will keep quiet.

 

[FaujHistorian]

bye bye strategic depth

Russia, iran, India all tried to gain depth in Afghanistan. Pakistan was not the only one.

But that type of thinking is at least 20 years old. Please update your opinion to 2014.

There is no shortage of mountains along the LOC either, is there? But terrorists have snuck in through mountains, and they will do it in Af-Pak as well. Heck, there are videos on youtube of Afghan talibs making their way through rocky mountains into Pakistan. (I won't post them here, because they come from jihadi propoganda sources.)

Fencing is a one time cost, but manning and monitoring it is a recurring expense. But anyway, if the alternative is continous war, then it's a smaller expense. I'm just not sure if it is that easy to insulate Pak and Afgh from each other, like India and Pak. One of the reasons is that the people living near the common borders have a lot of cultural affinity to each other, and think in terms of tribal or ethnic loyalties, rather than nationality. Can an electric fence put an end to the two way migration once and for all? In our case, it was a matter of keeping Pakistani jihadists and infiltrators out, not entire populations always migrating to and fro.

Are you with us
or
Against us?

 

[janon]

Are you with us
or
Against us?

I categorically stated on the first page of this thread that I am against talibs, when you asked the same question. The more important question is are YOU with YOU or against YOU. By which I mean, are all Pakistanis united against taliban and their ideology and goals? If you are honest, you will realize that there are more Pakistanis who side with talibs, than there are Indians who might.