Pakistan has started fencing the border with Afghanistan

[9876]

I do side with Pak against talibs. But my question was only whether Pakistan has the money for such a setup - it's not just a fence, it's also continous monitoring, which is damned expensive.

I agree it'll be very expensive, but the alternative (i.e. no fence) will end up costing a lot more. Pakistan will have to find the money from somewhere, and im sure they will.

Any idea on how much it costs to build a robust fence? taking into the account the pak-afghan border area?

 

[Menace2Society]

Not as expensive as the hit the economy will take if we leave border as it is.

Currently Afghans are dragging Pak down to their level. We need to completely separate from them and show the world.

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

This is kind of low key event, not covered from Pakistani side except few news articles.

Afghanistani gov should strongly support this action.

Afghan officials discuss barbed wire along Durand Line


our correspondent
Monday, July 14, 2014
From Print Edition

PESHAWAR: Afghanistan’s National Security Council on Sunday discussed the digging of trenches and installation of barbed wire by Pakistani security forces near the Paktika province along the Durand Line.

A press release made available to the Afghan Islamic Press (AIP) said that Afghan President Hamid Karzai chaired a meeting of the National Security Council at the Presidential Palace. The National Security Council directed the borders and tribal affairs and interior ministries to gather information about the exact location of the barbed wire and its distance from the zero line and present a report in the next meeting.

Speaking at the meeting, the ministers said terrorists recently killed and tortured innocent people on the pretext of cooperation with the Afghan government. They said several innocent people fell prey to the IEDs in Ghor, Helmand and Kunar provinces over the past one week.

The National Security Council directed security forces to take the terrorists to task with the support of the people. It is pertinent to mention that the Afghan government claimed on Thursday that Pakistan had started constructing checkposts and trenches near Kandahar along the Durand Line..


Afghan officials discuss barbed wire along Durand Line - thenews.com.pk





Also news from Afghan press

Afghanistan assesses barbed wire installation across Durand Line - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency

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About bloody time!

 

[janon]

I agree it'll be very expensive, but the alternative (i.e. no fence) will end up costing a lot more. Pakistan will have to find the money from somewhere, and im sure they will.

Any idea on how much it costs to build a robust fence? taking into the account the pak-afghan border area?

Don't know, but to give a comparison, for India (in 2003) each kilometer of fencing cost about $55,000. That's just to build the fence and install floodlights, not taking into account the subsequent monitoring. But it is true that not building the fence would have cost us a lot more, and it probably will cost Pakistan too if they don't stop the free flow of terrorists across the border.

 

[Armstrong]

Don't know, but to give a comparison, for India (in 2003) each kilometer of fencing cost about $55,000. That's just to build the fence and install floodlights, not taking into account the subsequent monitoring. But it is true that not building the fence would have cost us a lot more, and it probably will cost Pakistan too if they don't stop the free flow of terrorists across the border.

So if Pakistan decides to fence the 2640 km long Pak-Afghan border & lets say it'll cost us $100,000 a km, that'll work out to a little under $300 million - Spread over 3 years thats....peanuts !

 

[Chak Bamu]

Afghans have to balance their nonsensical territorial claims across the Durand Line with the need to control militants' access. My guess is that they would huff and puff, but do nothing more than that and let Pakistan go on fencing the Durand Line.

It is interesting to see that both these countries are watching one another to see which one breaks apart first. Pakistan would like the Pashtuns across the border to join up with Pakistan. Meanwhile Afghanistan has always wanted to claim areas up to Indus river. Important to note that Afghanis started this game when they voted against Pakistan's inclusion in UNO. They have paid dearly for this mistake and I think they would likely continue doing so despite the pain.

Both of our countries could do so much together, with Afghanistan really benefiting from Pakistan. But Afghan policy vis-a-vis Pakistan has always been myopic and they are ever-keen on using India to get at us.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

finally good news fencing this headache of a border was

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Time Overdue

 

[Menace2Society]

Both of our countries could do so much together, with Afghanistan really benefiting from Pakistan. But Afghan policy vis-a-vis Pakistan has always been myopic and they are ever-keen on using India to get at us.

Afghans can barely create a functioning society and you expect them to collaborate with a neighbor? Simply will not happen. Their territorial claims are immature at best and have a long way to go before they even call themselves a nation. We should save ourselves the bother and fence the border and forget about them for another 50 years.

Hopefully in the future they can evolve and we can collaborate and remove fencing but not now.

 

[janon]

So if Pakistan decides to fence the 2640 km long Pak-Afghan border & lets say it'll cost us $100,000 a km, that'll work out to a little under $300 million - Spread over 3 years thats....peanuts !

Actually that's the cost of the fence alone. The sensors and thermal imagers and cameras all put together cost us several billions. (At least 2 billion by 2004.)

India's Fence Sparks Little Debate

Not to mention te subsequent costs - there is enough security presence there (army or BSF) that if any intrusion is detected, soldiers can get there and neutralize them in time.

Anyway, it was well worth the money for India, and I'm sure it will be so for Pak as well.

 

[farhan_9909]

Don't know, but to give a comparison, for India (in 2003) each kilometer of fencing cost about $55,000. That's just to build the fence and install floodlights, not taking into account the subsequent monitoring. But it is true that not building the fence would have cost us a lot more, and it probably will cost Pakistan too if they don't stop the free flow of terrorists across the border.

Problem is not only the fence but the original durrandline in red.Pakistan has already extracted upto the original line in kunar.On ocassion Pakistan has built checkpost in Afghanistan territory to expand the the boundry and has been successful in region's around bajaur and the rest of FATA.This is the reason the Fencing around FATA has begun.

Red is Original durrandline
While if current Pak-Afghan border

 

[Cheetah786]

So if Pakistan decides to fence the 2640 km long Pak-Afghan border & lets say it'll cost us $100,000 a km, that'll work out to a little under $300 million - Spread over 3 years thats....peanuts !

Typical Accountant even a simple math and you make it complicated 2640 x 100,000= 264,000,000 that a lot less then $ 300 million. The difference goes for accounting no wonder only @Hyperion the only who can afford you.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Yes, but Paktia is not the only province bordering Pak, is it? The Afg-Pak border is pretty long.


Thanks for the very insightful and sagacious response.

no but the ops is being conducted in tht area..

 

[Ra'ad]

Good step...long overdue though.

 

[RAMPAGE]

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[FNFAL]

Wasn't pak making mud walls across the border?
Pakistan starts building 60 km long mud wall on Pak-Afghan border

But nonetheless, a decent fence should help in the long run. Will act as a filter both ways.