Pakistan has made enormous efforts in improving its CTF regime

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

He is being sarcastic!

What do you think I'm doing........

 

[Mugen]

What do you think I'm doing........

Okay you got me!

 

[TruthSeeker]

@FedererExpress @TruthSeeker @F-22Raptor Get us out of the Grey List

I think you have to help the USA successfully leave Afghanistan. After that, the USA will not impose "pressures" on Pakistan but may side with India on more issues than Pakistan will like. Pakistan's dilemma: Allow the USA to leave Afghanistan and get off the FATF restrictions, BUT then suffer some loss of international support, in favor of India.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Carrot stick for Pakistan , and Cake and weapons for India

• Apache
• P8
• Engine technology

You forgetting all your tech will get to Russia indirectly from India , half you IT is controlled by Indian , which means Russia has access to your secrets

Ties can't normalize until their is no organization like FATF

• FATF is there to stop growth of SCO
• FATF is there to increase poverty in Muslim nations.

 

[Dubious]

So are you telling us it is China who keeps us in the grey list and then playing a double game by pretending to back us?

China presides over this organization, not US anymore.

 

[hussain0216]

I think you have to help the USA successfully leave Afghanistan. After that, the USA will not impose "pressures" on Pakistan but may side with India on more issues than Pakistan will like. Pakistan's dilemma: Allow the USA to leave Afghanistan and get off the FATF restrictions, BUT then suffer some loss of international support, in favor of India.

We can live with that

We are happy with a trade relationship with the U.S

And basic neutral relations

We understand that u.s will wish to set up India as a patsy versus China and it should consider how this will destabilise the region and Pakistan will respond

The only thing worse than being a U.S enemy is being a U.S ally

 

[TruthSeeker]

The only thing worse than being a U.S enemy is being a U.S ally

Pakistan has never been an ally of the United States. The five eyes have been allies. No one else has been even close. Even Israel is not an ally. Both Israel and Pakistan are nations who have sought, with varying degrees of success, to use the United States for their own self-interest. Never have they acted, either one, in the US interest against their own interest, even a smidgen.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

This is a Christian/Jews vs Muslim blockade

So Chinese are Muslims? And Saudi's are Jews. Get a grip man ffs ....... !

 

[StormBreaker]

Pakistan has never been an ally of the United States. The five eyes have been allies. No one else has been even close. Even Israel is not an ally. Both Israel and Pakistan are nations who have sought, with varying degrees of success, to use the United States for their own self-interest. Never have they acted, either one, in the US interest against their own interest, even a smidgen.

Oh dear, spare me the long debate i might initiate, US has hired Pakistan since long, used it very much, we lost more than 80000 Pakistani lives for your country’s tyrannic cause which in turn is hunting your own economy and troops now.

Pakistan unfortunately lacks leaders who can actually play dual games which is called politics, so Pakistan is let’s say, a country, you can have as a true ally if you want it as one that is !!!

 

[cloud4000]

Here is my suggestion : USA must not be able to leave Afghanistan, till Pakistan is in grey list.

US doesn’t need Pakistan to leave Afghanistan. It will make a deal with Russia to transit their forces out, leaving Pakistan holding the bag. And then you can forget about aid, trade, CSF, F-16s, etc. Pakistan tried to links Afghanistan with Kashmir and got a cool response. Help US get out of Afghanistan and door will open, otherwise they may be permanently closed.

Carrot stick for Pakistan , and Cake and weapons for India

• Apache
• P8
• Engine technology

You forgetting all your tech will get to Russia indirectly from India , half you IT is controlled by Indian , which means Russia has access to your secrets

Ties can't normalize until their is no organization like FATF

• FATF is there to stop growth of SCO
• FATF is there to increase poverty in Muslim nations.

How do we know Pakistan didn’t give the Chinese a peak at US hardware they have? Haven’t stopped US from selling it to Pakistan.

Muslims are poor due to their own actions and policies. Just look at the OIC! What a moribund and useless organization. More busy playing sectarian games than advancing the interests of the Ummah. The OIC should be like the EU, where people freely move about, trade, etc.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

US doesn’t need Pakistan to leave Afghanistan. It will make a deal with Russia to transit their forces out, leaving Pakistan holding the bag. And then you can forget about aid, trade, CSF, F-16s, etc. Pakistan tried to links Afghanistan with Kashmir and got a cool response. Help US get out of Afghanistan and door will open, otherwise they may be permanently closed.



How do we know Pakistan didn’t give the Chinese a peak at US hardware they have? Haven’t stopped US from selling it to Pakistan.

Muslims are poor due to their own actions and policies. Just look at the OIC! What a moribund and useless organization. More busy playing sectarian games than advancing the interests of the Ummah. The OIC should be like the EU, where people freely move about, trade, etc.

Sure sure. They havn't used Russia to transit it out for nearly 20 years, what makes you think they're going to do it now?......................you're obviously getting your info and analysis from the same indian source that claimed that the iaf killed EXACTLY 350 terrorists in Balakot and shot down an F-16........

So Chinese are Muslims? And Saudi's are Jews. Get a grip man ffs ....... !

That is actually quite true. By unequivocally helping the ONLY nation on earth created in the name of ISLAM and Allah swt, the Chinese have become the best of Muslims. By being slave dogs of the Zionists and KUFFAR, the Saudis have become the biggest KUFFAR IDOL worshippers on planet earth. So the Ummah lives on in the form of the Pakistani/Chinese alliance......

 

[Wood]

I think you have to help the USA successfully leave Afghanistan. After that, the USA will not impose "pressures" on Pakistan but may side with India on more issues than Pakistan will like. Pakistan's dilemma: Allow the USA to leave Afghanistan and get off the FATF restrictions, BUT then suffer some loss of international support, in favor of India.

Pakistan’s game will be to keep US in Afghanistan in a limited capacity. US will depend on Pakistan for security in Afghanistan, and will not be in a position to supersede Pakistan’s influence in the country. I think this would be Pakistan’s end game.

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistan has never been an ally of the United States. The five eyes have been allies. No one else has been even close. Even Israel is not an ally. Both Israel and Pakistan are nations who have sought, with varying degrees of success, to use the United States for their own self-interest. Never have they acted, either one, in the US interest against their own interest, even a smidgen.

Well duuuhhh!!!

The United States the world over acts in its own interests, it can totally screw over a country just to achieve its own goals

Is it so weird other countries do the same for their own national interests?

It's true when it comes to the U.S Israel has you owned, they have their tentacles deep into your politics and government and they have utilised that power at times against U.S interests and for their own

Pakistan and U.S are much more equal we have screwed each other equally and we both carry the scars

Let's just resolve Afghanistan for both our interests and go forward on better terms

Our big issue going forward will be your desire to use India against China

The Indians like the gimps they are will gleefully accept any support and advantage to take on "China" but as we are in open conflict with them this will effect us and we will need to counter it and this will mean more missile's, more nukes, more weapons etc

 

[aryadravida]

I heard that there was no voting this time in Pakistan case. Not sure thought. In June we are more than likely to be removed from the grey list as well.

Indian media is saying you are more than likely to be put on blacklist in June...even ndtv reported it( which has credibility)..of course should you fail to live upto the expectations

 

[Ultima Thule]

Indian media is saying you are more than likely to be put on blacklist in June...even ndtv reported it( which has credibility)..of course should you fail to live upto the expectations

anything more sh!t you have, we don't believes in Indian medias anti Pakistani rants, we believes on neutral international medias like BBC/CNN/NEW YORK TIMES, A and thanks for sh!tting in your pants