PAKISTAN FULLY QUALIFIED TO BECOME MEMBER OF NSG

[RadioactiveFriends]

Prime Minister's Special Assistant on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi said that Pakistan fully qualified to become member of the Nuclear Suppliers Group.

He was talking to Russian Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Ryabkov in Islamabad on Tuesday. Ryabkov is leading the Russian delegation for the 10th Meeting of Pakistan-Russian Consultative Group on Strategic Stability.

The special assistant underscored Pakistan’s contribution to global efforts for disarmament and non-proliferation as a mainstream and equal partner of the international community.

He also called for a principle-based and non-discriminatory global regime on non-proliferation.

The two sides exchanged views on the positive trajectory of Pakistan-Russia bilateral relations, regional and global security situation as well as broad issues in the field of disarmament and non-proliferation.

It is pertinent to mention here that Pakistan-Russian Consultative Group on Strategic Stability was established in 2002. It provides a structured platform for exchange of views on issues related to arms control, non-proliferation and disarmament, as well as regional security.

SAPM stresses enhanced Pak-Hungary ties

Hungarian Minister of State for Economic Diplomacy Levente Magyar also called on Prime Minister's Special Assistant on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi in Islamabad and discussed with him bilateral relations.

Pakistan’s role and sacrifices in the war against terrorism and other issues of regional and international importance also came under discussion.

 

[khujliwal]

Pakistan is technically, yes but some of these work against it:
Nuclear prolification (well documented and acknowledged by Pak)
Tendency to get hired for money (Afghanistan jihad for petro and US $)
Leasing assets (gwadar to China 30-40 years?)
Overall, Pakistan lacks strong civilian governance to be assertive about its claim to be a part of NSG.

 

[Dr Shaheryar]

And where do you think exists a Civilian Government

 

[ebrahym]

Pakistan is technically, yes but some of these work against it:
Nuclear prolification (well documented and acknowledged by Pak)
Tendency to get hired for money (Afghanistan jihad for petro and US $)
Leasing assets (gwadar to China 30-40 years?)
Overall, Pakistan lacks strong civilian governance to be assertive about its claim to be a part of NSG.

there is something called establishment which runs the state and that is never fully civilian ..... and the other points you mention just represent that you are a troll sir

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Nuclear prolification (well documented and acknowledged by Pak)
Tendency to get hired for money (Afghanistan jihad for petro and US $)
Leasing assets (gwadar to China 30-40 years?)
Overall, Pakistan lacks strong civilian governance to be assertive about its claim to be a part of NSG.

Name some NSG that has avoided these points.

 

[BattleWolf]

The pak army has a iron fist control of the civilian government , no country will be willing to place NSG status to a country that has been a victim to multiple military coop & overthrown its own government . Trust & confidence isn't earned by threats .

 

[ebrahym]

The pak army has a iron fist control of the civilian government , no country will be willing to place NSG status to a country that has been a victim to multiple military coop & overthrown its own government . Trust & confidence isn't earned by threats .

if you recall obama wanted to remove its troops from afghanistan but could not due to "iron fist" of american establishment as for the coup situation Belarus is a member who is under the rule of the same man since 1996

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Pakistan is technically, yes but some of these work against it:
Nuclear prolification (well documented and acknowledged by Pak)
Tendency to get hired for money (Afghanistan jihad for petro and US $)
Leasing assets (gwadar to China 30-40 years?)
Overall, Pakistan lacks strong civilian governance to be assertive about its claim to be a part of NSG.

Thats a childish argument. Every state worth it salt got a deep state within. Not something unique to Pakistan. This has been the case right from the ancient times where the military played decisive role in matter of state/empires. Obama may be the civilian president but to assume that CIA/pentagon dance on his tunes would be the highly naive.

Out of all matters, the nuclear subject should be under strict control of military. Those who know how to use weapon, knows how to secure it, the devastation it cause, and its fallout, as oppose to the civilians who would be clueless about warfare or weapons, because its not their area of expertise. You dont want to give a gun to a monkey do you? may kill itself.

 

[BattleWolf]

if you recall obama wanted to remove its troops from afghanistan but could not due to "iron fist" of american establishment as for the coup situation Belarus is a member who is under the rule of the same man since 1996

Comparing to the military that overthrow its own government ?
Anyway I'm not interested in talking about America ,Tag in some US users lets see what they have to say .

 

[EAK]

Comparing to the military that overthrow its own government ?
Anyway I'm not interested in talking about America ,Tag in some US users lets see what they have to say .

If you are not interested then plz don't derail thread with your useless rants.. Cause your points are well taken care of.So If you don't have any genuine Question then

 

[My-Analogous]

Pakistan is technically, yes but some of these work against it:
Nuclear prolification (well documented and acknowledged by Pak)
Tendency to get hired for money (Afghanistan jihad for petro and US $)
Leasing assets (gwadar to China 30-40 years?)
Overall, Pakistan lacks strong civilian governance to be assertive about its claim to be a part of NSG.

What is the link between NSG and govt of Pakistan?. There is any requirement from NSG to perform all tasks which you mentioned? please enlighten us

 

[BattleWolf]

If you are not interested then plz don't derail thread with your useless rants.. Cause your points are well taken care of.So If you don't have any genuine Question then

? or you could stop selective reading & understand what others are saying completely.

I said I don't want to talk about USA which is irrelevant to this topic and my comment , if you are that keen on derailing the thread to USA then at least tag few U.S. users to keep things interesting .

 

[ebrahym]

Comparing to the military that overthrow its own government ?
Anyway I'm not interested in talking about America ,Tag in some US users lets see what they have to say .

you should also see some background of the coups first was due to lack of maturity , second was to reintroduce democracy , third was US backed to derail socialist goverment of PPP and the last one was due misunderstandings and lack of communication between doverment and army ...... if there would have been one more coup it already would have taken place but it is not due gud communication between govt and army

? or you could stop selective reading & understand what others are saying completely.

I said I don't want to talk about USA which is irrelevant to this topic and my comment , if you are that keen on derailing the thread to USA then at least tag few U.S. users to keep things interesting .

you are right .... the topic is about our qualification to NSG ....... so why dont you give us real arguements about it because the ones you gave above are really childish ..... so your first point is

 

[BattleWolf]

you should also see some background of the coups first was due to lack of maturity , second was to reintroduce democracy , third was US backed to derail socialist goverment of PPP and the last one was due misunderstandings and lack of communication between doverment and army ...... if there would have been one more coup it already would have taken place but it is not due gud communication between govt and army

Are you kidding me ? How can you people even defend this , you literally spent decades in military rule .

you are right .... the topic is about our qualification to NSG ....... so why dont you give us real arguements about it because the ones you gave above are really childish ..... so your first point is

My point directly reflects on the topic , a government as fragile as Pakistan has no business in nukese , Pakistan for decades has been in the top spots of the fragile state index .

At the very minimum Pakistani government should control its military & Drastically reduce their involvement in politics , a another coop with a rogue military with nukes is something no one wants to see .

 

[ebrahym]

Are you kidding me ? How can you people even defend this , you literally spent decades in military rule .


My point directly reflects on the topic , a government as fragile as Pakistan has no business in nukese , Pakistan for decades has been in the top spots of the fragile state index .

At the very minimum Pakistani government should control its military & Drastically reduce their involvement in politics , a another coop with a rogue military with nukes is something no one wants to see .

you have still not given any arguement plus i m not defending it ..... i m just letting you know some facts ...... but still you are passing arguements like a politician .... so there is no need in arguing with you