Pakistan FM Zardari links Islam and Terrorism on CNN

[Joe Shearer]

Cause you were not created in Zardaris left nut.

What makes you so sure? You may be right but I'm curious how you knew.

 

[araz]

Muslims do the violence/killing for religion, That is why it is linked to religion/islam. I don't think you don’t know it.
FM is not hypocrite and he is Just making it obvious.

If you read my post I have called them deviants. A deviant is one who derives a wrong ruling from the Quran or the Sunnah and does something which is neither allowed nor condoned in Islam. As such this act has nothing to do with Islam or its teachings.
The label of Islamic terrorist/terrorism was derived by the west . This is maligning islam/labelling all muslims carte blanche as terrorists to serve a politicaL purpose rather than projecting a fact. No religion including Islam allows such vile acts as are being committed in the name of religion today. What I have also pointed out is that religious differences have resulted in wars/struggles previously as well like the IRA in the recent past and the current Hindutva tehrik.
in case of terrorism condu ted in the name of islam, Only learning true teachings of islam will make people understand the paradox. The principles of Islam are peace and living in harmony while following the commands of Allah.
A

 

[Maula Jatt]

Ashirwad wala riwaj Punjab main bhi ha. When you meet someone who is older than you touch his knee

Punjabis are Hindus

 

[SaadH]

Punjabis are Hindus

No they are sikhs

 

[Maula Jatt]

No they are sikhs

and another poster from the same community is here to takfeer people groups

Lanat on you fatwa baaz mullahs

expected

 

[SaadH]

Looks like all the resident Punjabi nationalists here have gotten their collective Kachas in a twist, no surprises there...

And calm the truck down, no one's passing any takfir on you nationalist Punjabis, a pseudo ethnicity by the way, it's just rather ironic how much of a nerve it hits for you lot, when someone calls out your natural affinity for your "ethnic" brethren from across the border, you know the ones that eat Aaloo gosht and sarson ka saag just like you, a bond much stronger than any backward religion can offer.

The same bond that lets you lot forgive in fact celebrate the same ethnic brethren of yours from across the border who committed a mass genocide against you a mere 70 years ago.

 

[SuperStar20]

If you read my post I have called them deviants. A deviant is one who derives a wrong ruling from the Quran or the Sunnah and does something which is neither allowed nor condoned in Islam. As such this act has nothing to do with Islam or its teachings.
The label of Islamic terrorist/terrorism was derived by the west . This is maligning islam/labelling all muslims carte blanche as terrorists to serve a politicaL purpose rather than projecting a fact. No religion including Islam allows such vile acts as are being committed in the name of religion today. What I have also pointed out is that religious differences have resulted in wars/struggles previously as well like the IRA in the recent past and the current Hindutva tehrik.
in case of terrorism condu ted in the name of islam, Only learning true teachings of islam will make people understand the paradox. The principles of Islam are peace and living in harmony while following the commands of Allah.
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Your example, IRA militants did not fight for Catholic cause. On the other hand, TTP and AT are fighting to establish islamic rule. Who gave the right to IEA in Afghanistan?
Same case in Kashmir, if they are fighting for kashmiri people, they would not kill Kashmiri pandits.

 

[Maula Jatt]

When did they ever claim to fight for Kashmir?

dozens of organizations, the majority of martyrs are native Kashmiri

Their main aim has always been “Ghazwa-e-Hind” that’s why names such as “Ansar Ghazwat-ul-Hind” and songs like “lal qile pe sabz parcham hum fehrayenge”.

Ghazwa e hind might be the slogan of one or 2 organizations among dozens of such organizations which you label as a representation of every organization to downplay the Kashmir native struggle

It’s more of proxy warfare from our broke neighbours

broke neighbors live a much more comfortable life with higher minimum wage, employment, access to free healthcare, homeownership, little homelessness or poverty- crap that humans need
than your overcrowded slum nation and it'll continue to be that way till you keep breeding like rabbits and make them live in 10 by 10 slums- despite your projections

more than any sort of “freedom struggle”,

Kashmiris chant freedom slogans, Kashmiris are the majority of martyrs, Kashmiri diaspora or even internet spaces hates india
- this all represent freedom struggle, none of them are Pakistanis they are all natives

more people from Kashmir join security forces than these “militant” organisations.

No my Adivasi friend, the vast majority of Kashmiris are pro independent (not pro-Pakistan, pro-independence) - meet some or interact to get your face outta your butt

They killed a few religious pilgrims, and a Kashmiri pandit a few days back but did their FO condemn it?

sad- but for every one of that you have killed and raped in the 100s for decades and decades

Had a few of these terrorists

not terrorists

got killed in an encounter their media and FO would be writing “India martyred kashmiri youths”.

cause you have a history of fake encounters and proper massacres dating back decades

Main aim is Jihad on infidel polytheistic idolators and Kashmir issue is just an excuse for it.

no one gives a shit about you, seriously no one gives zero shits about who you are, who you worship, what your religion is or not, don't want your polluted land, don't want anything to do with you, leave us alone
- its f ing all irrelevant
what's relevant is that you have land under occupation- whose culture, language, genetics, and religion has nothing to do with you - that's why they want out

 

[araz]

Your example, IRA militants did not fight for Catholic cause. On the other hand, TTP and AT are fighting to establish islamic rule. Who gave the right to IEA in Afghanistan?
Same case in Kashmir, if they are fighting for kashmiri people, they would not kill Kashmiri pandits.

RE the IRA. Can I ask what was the cause of all the chaos if not religion. on of my Ex secretaries was Irish Catholic and had to run away from home and her area to marry a protestant man. So call it religion or not. Better still find me a protestant MEMBER OF IRA SENIOR LEADERSHIP and I will accept your argument. Again regarding your other examples, it is not wrong to fight for a cause and this can be justified. But equating fighting with suicide bombing and killing innocent people is where deviancy steps in.

 

[Hellfire2006]

Punjabis are Hindus

Yes there are Punjabi Hindus , is there any doubt ? I am a Punjabi Hindu
There are 10 million of us and we are a very successful community

No they are sikhs

Nope , 39% of Punjabis are hindus

 

[PDF]

I wonder what new gift wil our new FM bestow upon us today

Blast from the Past. Looks like we really have a very open-minded person in office.

 

[jamal18]

The colonial slave mentality is so strong in Pakistan that many people are impressed just because he speaks English with a British accent.

Pakistanis are taught from the day they are born to worship the English language.

 

[jamal18]

Did I hear that he is 30 yrs?

Shows the total bankrupcy of Pakistani politics. Put the fate of 200 million people in the hands of somebody who can't tie his own shoe laces.

It's not what you know, it's who you know.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Yes there are Punjabi Hindus , is there any doubt ? I am a Punjabi Hindu
There are 10 million of us and we are a very successful community

Nope , 39% of Punjabis are hindus

And What should I do with this information and why should I care? Who gives a flying you know what

It was clearly meant to be something else, in a different conversational sense, different line of posts

but you head-butted in for no reason- like who are you?, What was the reason for your off topic and unnecessary head butting into random convos

I don't care about who you're nor was anyone demanding that info

 

[MultaniGuy]

Pakistan's foreign minister says fighting extremism is his life's work | CNN

Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, son of assassinated Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, says he's focused on spreading a peaceful, progressive message of Islam

edition.cnn.com

07:28 onwards

Short version;

https://twitter.com/x/status/1527902676754878464

Bizarre that the FM of a country that lobbied for recognition of Islamophobia should try and link Islam with terrorism.

Then later :

"Pakistan stated position is that extremism or terrorism shouldn't be associated with any religion." - Pakistan Foreign Office

Zardari is a man with a bad reputation. I never take anything that comes out of his mouth seriously.