Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

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[Super Falcon]

The Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, the first of the US Air Force multi-role fighter aircraft, is the world's most prolific fighter with more than 2,000 in service with the USAF and 2,000 operational with 25 other countries.

The F-16 and the F-15 Eagle were the world's first aircraft able to withstand higher g-forces than the pilots. The Fighting Falcon entered service in 1979. The last of 2,231 F-16 fighters for the US Air Force was delivered in March 2005. The first two-seat F-16D version was accepted by the US Government in January 2009.

Outside the US, Lockheed Martin had a backlog of around 95 F-16 aircraft during the first quarter of 2009.

Recent orders include Bahrain (ten delivered), Greece (60 block 52 all delivered), Israel (50), Egypt (24 block 40), New Zealand (28), United Arab Emirates (80 block 60, first delivered 2005), Singapore (20), South Korea (20 block 52 all delivered), Oman (12, first delivered August 2005), Chile (ten block 50, first delivery 2006) and Poland (48 block 52, delivered March 2006 – December 2008).

"The F-16 Fighting Falcon is the world's most prolific fighter."Israel, with the world's largest F-16 fleet outside the USAF, has ordered 110 F-16I aircraft, of which the first was delivered in December 2003. These aircraft have Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 engines, Elbit avionics, Elisra electronic warfare systems and Rafael weapons and sensors, including Litening II laser target designator pods. Italy has leased 34 aircraft until the first tranche of Eurofighter deliveries are completed. Hungary will acquire 24 ex-USAF fighters.

In December 2005, Greece ordered a further 30 block 52+ fighters (20 F-16C single seat and 10 F-16D two-seat) to be delivered from 2009. Under the Peace Xenia IV purchase programme, the total number of fighters ordered by Greece's HAF(Hellenic Air Force) rose to 170. The first Peace Xenia IV F-16 block 52 advanced aircraft was delivered on 19 March 2009. The remaining will be delivered in 2009 and 2010.

In June 2005, Pakistan requested the foreign military sale (FMS) of 36 F-16C/D block 50/52 aircraft. In June 2006, the Pentagon notified congress of its intention to agree the sale and Lockheed Martin was awarded a contract for 12 F-16C and six F-16D block 52 aircraft in December 2006. The aircraft will be armed with AMRAAM and Sidewinder missiles and the Sniper targeting pod. The planned order of the second 18 aircraft has been cancelled.

In September 2006, Turkey requested the sale of an additional 30 advanced block 50 F-16 aircraft. The order was signed in May 2007. The aircraft will be delivered in 2011 and 2012. The total cost of these additional aircraft could be more than $2.9bn excluding Turkey's $1.1bn upgrade programme for its existing F-16 fleet.

In June 2007, Taiwan requested 66 F-16C/D aircraft but the US government has indicated that approval is unlikely to be granted before 2009.

In December 2007, Morocco requested the sale of 24 F-16C/D block 50/52 aircraft. The deal includes the aircraft, mission equipment and a support package provided by Lockheed Martin and other US and international contractors. The Royal Moroccan Air Force (RMAF) placed a $233.6m order in June 2008.

The F-16IN Super Viper, which is a development of block 60, has been designed for the Indian Air force. It is a fourth-generation fighter that meets the medium multirole combat aircraft (MMRCA) requirements. It includes Northrop Grumman APG-80 AESA radar and General Electric F110-132A engine with 32,000lb thrust.

Various F-16 upgrade and modernisation programmes are underway in Turkey, Pakistan and Jordan, and within the US Air Force. Future upgrades include air refuelling probes, auxiliary power unitu, auto ground collision avoidance systems and automatic manoeuvring attack.

F-16 common configuration implementation programme (CCIP)
650 USAF block 40/50 F-16s are being upgraded under the common configuration implementation programme (CCIP). The first phase of the programme (first aircraft completed in January 2002) provides core computer and colour cockpit modifications.

The second, which began in September 2002, involves fitting the advanced AN/APX-113 interrogator / transponder and Lockheed Martin Sniper XR advanced FLIR targeting pod.

The third, which started in July 2003, adds Link 16 datalink, the Boeing joint helmet-mounted cueing system and an electronic horizontal situation indicator. Operational testing of the M3 upgraded fighters was completed in September 2004. Deliveries are planned to complete in 2010.

"Israel has the largest F-16 fleet outside the USAF."A216 block 40/50 F-16 aircraft of the Turkish Air Force are to be upgraded with elements of the CCIP, under an agreement reached in April 2005. Lockheed Martin was awarded the contract to supply the modernisation kits in December 2006. The upgrade is scheduled for completion in 2016.

The export version of the Sniper XR pod, the PANTERA, has been ordered by the Royal Norwegian Air Force. The first was delivered in November 2003.

Block 50/52 is the eighth major modification block of the F-16 that incorporates colour cockpit displays, new electronic warfare suite, advanced weapons and sensors and more powerful engines.

Block 60 upgrade
The block 60 F-16E/F, which is being developed for the United Arab Emirates, features extra payload and range, in part due to the new F110-132 engine being developed by General Electric, which produces 145kN of thrust.

New avionics for the block 60 includes a higher-speed mission computer, a new display processor, three large colour LCD displays, advanced data transfer unit with a fibre-optic data transfer network. Precision targeting is achieved by the Northrop Grumman integrated navigation FLIR and targeting FLIR system using mid-wave infrared arrays and Northrop Grumman's APG-80 agile beam active electronically scanned (AESA) radar.

Northrop Grumman is providing the integrated electronic warfare suite. First flight of the block 60 aircraft took place in December 2003. Deliveries of 80 block 60 aircraft to the UAE began in May 2005 and are scheduled to conclude by 2009.

Cockpit

Advanced equipment being fitted on the current build of the F-16 includes Honeywell colour flat-panel liquid crystal multifunction displays, digital terrain system, modular mission computer, colour video camera to record the pilot's view of the head-up display (HUD), a colour triple-deck video recorder and an enhanced programmable display generator.

Under the USAF project Sure Strike, the F-16 is being equipped with an improved data modem (IDM), which automatically provides target data to the HUD using data transmitted by a ground observer.

The seat-back angle of the aircraft has been increased from 13° to 30° to provide increased comfort for the pilot.

"USAF F-16 aircraft are scheduled to receive the Boeing joint helmet-mounted cueing system (JHMCS)."A follow-on programme, project Gold Strike, integrates an upgraded IDM for the transmission of images to and from a range of sources, including ground units and unmanned aircraft. The system can transmit images from the LANTIRN targeting pod and display video imagery to the cockpit.

USAF F-16 aircraft are scheduled to receive the Boeing joint helmet-mounted cueing system (JHMCS), currently in full-rate production. Deliveries of production systems began in 2004, although the system has been deployed operationally during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Weapons

The aircraft has nine hardpoints for weapons payloads: one at each wing tip, three under each wing and one centreline under the fuselage. The ordnance is launched from Raytheon LAU-88 launchers, MAU-12 and Orgen bomb ejector racks. The port wing is fitted with a 20mm General Electric M61A1 multi-barrel cannon and the gunsight is interfaced to the cockpit HUD.

Air-to-air missiles which have been carried on the F-16 include the Lockheed Martin / Raytheon AIM-9 Sidewinder, Raytheon AMRAAM, Raytheon Sparrow, MBDA (formerly Matra BAe Dynamics) Skyflash and ASRAAM, and the MBDA R550 Magic 2. In April 2004, the F-16 first fired the new-generation AIM-9X Sidewinder, which is in full-rate production for the USAF.

Air-to-surface missiles carried on the F-16 include Maverick, HARM and Shrike missiles, manufactured by Raytheon, and anti-ship missiles include Boeing Harpoon and Kongsberg Penguin. Flight tests with the Lockheed Martin joint air-to-surface stand-off missile (JASSM) are being conducted from the F-16.

The first guided launch of the new joint direct attack munition (JDAM) was successfully carried out from an F-16. The F-16 was the first USAF aircraft to be fitted with the joint stand-off weapon (JSOW) in April 2000.

The F-16 can be fitted with Lockheed Martin wind-corrected munitions dispenser (WCMD), which provides precision guidance for CBU-87, -89, and 97 cluster munitions. The system corrects for launch transients, ballistic errors, and winds aloft.

The F-16 will be the first aircraft to use the USAF's new weapon rack, the Edo Corporation BRU-57. The BRU-57 is a vertical ejection rack which doubles the aircraft's capacity for precision-guided weapons like JDAM and WCMD.

All-weather stand-off weapons such as the AGM-84E stand-off land-attack missile (SLAM) and the AGM-142 Popeye II are planned to be included in future upgrades to the aircraft. Other advanced weapons include MICA, IRIS-T, Python IV, Active Skyflash air-to-air missile, ALARM antiradiation missile, Apache multimission stand-off weapon, autonomous free-flight dispenser system and AS30L laser-guided missile.

Targeting

The F-16 carries the Lockheed Martin LANTIRN infrared navigation and targeting system. This is used in conjunction with a BAE Systems holographic display. Block 50/52 aircraft are equipped with the HARM Targeting System, AN/ASQ-213 from Raytheon.

US Air National Guard F-16 aircraft are fitted with Northrop Grumman Litening II / Litening ER targeting pods.

"Air-to-surface missiles carried on the F-16 Fighting Falcon include Maverick, HARM and Shrike missiles."In August 2001, Lockheed Martin was selected to provide the Sniper XR as the new advanced targeting pod for USAF F-16 and F-15E aircraft.

Sniper XR (extended range) incorporates a high-resolution mid-wave FLIR, dual-mode laser, CCD TV, laser spot tracker and laser marker combined with advanced image processing algorithms. Deliveries began in March 2003.

F-16 fighters for Oman will be equipped with BAE Systems advanced airborne reconnaissance system. Those for Poland and Morocco will be equipped with the Goodrich DB-110 reconnaissance pod.

Countermeasures

Current block 50 F-16 aircraft for the USA are equipped with the Lockheed Martin superheterodyne AN/ALR-56M radar warning receiver. The F-16 is also compatible with a range of jammers and electronic countermeasures equipment, including Northrop Grumman AN/ALQ-131, Raytheon AN/ALQ-184, Elisra SPS 3000 and Elta EL/L-8240, and the Northrop Grumman ALQ-165 self-protection suite.

Lockheed Martin ALE-40 and ALE-47 chaff and infrared flare dispenser systems are installed in an internal flush mount. ALE-40 is pilot-controlled but the ALE-47 installed in block 50 can be operated in fully, semi-automatic or manual mode.

F-16s for the Greek Air Force are being fitted with the Raytheon advanced self-protection integrated suite (ASPIS) II which includes Northrop Grumman ALR-93(V) threat warning system, Raytheon ALQ-187 jammer and BAE Systems ALE-47 chaff / flare dispenser.

F-16s for Chile and Pakistan are fitted with the ITT AN/ALQ-211 (V) 4 electronic warfare suite.

Radar

The Northrop Grumman AN/APG-68 radar provides 25 separate air-to-air and air-to-ground modes, including long-range, all-aspect detection and tracking, simultaneous multiple-target tracking, and high-resolution ground mapping. The planar antenna array is installed in the nose of the aircraft.

An upgraded version of the radar, AN/APG-68(V)9, has begun flight testing. The upgrade features: 30% increase in detection range, five times increase in processing speed, ten times increase in memory, as well as significant improvements in all modes, jam resistance and false alarm rate.

Navigation and communications

The F-16 was the first operational US aircraft to receive a global positioning system (GPS). The aircraft has an inertial navigation system, either a Northrop Grumman (Litton) LN-39, LN-93 ring laser gyroscope or Honeywell H-423.

"The F-16 Fighting Falcon carries the Lockheed Martin LANTIRN infrared navigation and targeting system."Other navigation equipment includes a BAE Systems Terprom digital terrain navigation system, Gould AN/APN-232 radar altimeter, Rockwell Collins AN/ARN-118 tactical air navigation system (TACAN) and Rockwell Collins AN/ARN-108 instrument landing system.

The communications systems include the Raytheon UHF AN/ARC-164 receiver / transmitter and Rockwell Collins VHF AM/FM AN/ARC-186 together with AN/APX101 identification friend or foe (IFF) and encryption / secure communications systems. The AN/APX-101 is being upgraded with BAE Systems AN/APX-113.

Engine

The aircraft is powered by a single engine: the General Electric F110-GE-129 or Pratt and Whitney F100-PW-229. The fuel supply is equipped with an inert gas anti-fire system. An inflight refuelling probe is installed in the top of the fuselage.

Lockheed Martin has completed developmental flight testing on new conformal fuel tanks (CFT) for the F-16, which will significantly add to the aircraft's mission radius. First flight of the F-16 equipped with the new tanks was in March 2003. Greece is the launch customer for the CFT.

 

[TOPGUN]

So from reading from this article it states > * The planned order of the second 18 aircraft has been cancelled * if this article is true then there will be no more f-16's after the 18 we are getting !

 

[TaimiKhan]

So from reading from this article it states > * The planned order of the second 18 aircraft has been cancelled * if this article is true then there will be no more f-16's after the 18 we are getting !

It seems that way, we had an option for 18 more, but so far we have not ordered them, meaning its canceled. Because if we do order it now, it will again take 4-6 years for the delivery time period, which we can't afford. I believe in 2005 Pakistan had excused from ordering more F-16s on the pretext of Earthquake, as money would be needed there. But in reality PAF wanted to invest that money somewhere else.

 

[TaimiKhan]

So from reading from this article it states > * The planned order of the second 18 aircraft has been cancelled * if this article is true then there will be no more f-16's after the 18 we are getting !

It seems that way, we had an option for 18 more, but so far we have not ordered them, meaning its canceled. Because if we do order it now, it will again take 4-6 years for the delivery time period, which we can't afford. I believe in 2005 Pakistan had excused from ordering more F-16s on the pretext of Earthquake, as money would be needed there. But in reality PAF wanted to invest that money somewhere else.

 

[Luftwaffe]

So from reading from this article it states > * The planned order of the second 18 aircraft has been cancelled * if this article is true then there will be no more f-16's after the 18 we are getting !

Perhaps its best to invest in J-10B for 1 f-16's we can get 2 J-10B : ) @TOPGUN

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

So from reading from this article it states > * The planned order of the second 18 aircraft has been cancelled * if this article is true then there will be no more f-16's after the 18 we are getting !

it says the planned order of the 2nd 18 aircrafts

i.e. initial order was 36. It was later placed at 18.

first batch are being realized.......2nd batch will not be delivered, even though we still have the option open for later time (many "ifs" involved)

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

It seems that way, we had an option for 18 more, but so far we have not ordered them, meaning its canceled. Because if we do order it now, it will again take 4-6 years for the delivery time period, which we can't afford. I believe in 2005 Pakistan had excused from ordering more F-16s on the pretext of Earthquake, as money would be needed there. But in reality PAF wanted to invest that money somewhere else.

it was roughly around same time that PAF was inking deal with China for J-10/FC-20

 

[MastanKhan]

It seems that way, we had an option for 18 more, but so far we have not ordered them, meaning its canceled. Because if we do order it now, it will again take 4-6 years for the delivery time period, which we can't afford. I believe in 2005 Pakistan had excused from ordering more F-16s on the pretext of Earthquake, as money would be needed there. But in reality PAF wanted to invest that money somewhere else.

Hi,

In 2005 the cancellation was indeed due to the earthquake and previous to that the PAF had concluded that the threat level from india had receded---later, it was due to hostilties with india that paf decided to go after more aircraft.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Hi,

In 2005 the cancellation was indeed due to the earthquake and previous to that the PAF had concluded that the threat level from india had receded---later, it was due to hostilties with india that paf decided to go after more aircraft.

Sir, for earthquake, there was enough money pledged by International donors and we did have too. And how can threat from India have receded ??? We can't hold them with such little airforce, the threat from India is ever green and even 100 new Blk 52s are less for them.

And which more aircraft are you talking about that we went after ??

 

[Rank]

This time Pakistan Airforce thinktanks play really superb game.. Why we pay 36 aircraft money first we will see if our 18+ Aircraft deliver in deal "Time frame" we will go for further 18 otherwise we will cancel our rest 18 deal and go for other platform... good work PAF!!

 

[Rank]

lol in 10 - 12 years we will get 18 + 18 F16 BLK 50/52 and india will get 126 Aircraft in just 5 years hahahha ... i dont think PAF officials are stupid... its better to cancel this deal... and go for Rafale....

 

[nightrider_saulat]

lol in 10 - 12 years we will get 18 + 18 F16 BLK 50/52 and india will get 126 Aircraft in just 5 years hahahha ... i dont think PAF officials are stupid... its better to cancel this deal... and go for Rafale....

rafale ke paise tumhare abbo denge kya
i think only J-10B is the existable alternative for the purchase of F-16block 52

 

[TOPGUN]

lol in 10 - 12 years we will get 18 + 18 F16 BLK 50/52 and india will get 126 Aircraft in just 5 years hahahha ... i dont think PAF officials are stupid... its better to cancel this deal... and go for Rafale....

True but bro wat makes you think PAF will go for rafales? and do you think we have the funds for that boss?