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Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

Current US_PAk situation created doubts about delivery of 14 F16 that US promised to give back and there is also uncertainty for further placing an order for optional 18 F16 Block52.See what happens next....?:coffee:

Does this remind anyone of the old "carrot-and-stick" approach?
 
More Pakistan Air Force F-16A/B upgrade Kits Ordered

July 29, 2011

* Lockheed Martin has been awarded a new contract to provide an additional ten upgrade kits for Pakistan Air Force F-16A/B Block 15 fighters

LOCKHEED MARTIN was awarded a $42.31 million Foreign Military Sales contract on July 29 through the US Air Force for ten additional Enhanced Modernisation Program kits for Pakistan Air Force (PAF) F-16A/B Block 15 aircraft.

The order follows on from a previous $325.485 million deal for 35 F-16A/B Block 15 Mid-Life Update (MLU) kits that was awarded to Lockheed Martin on May 21, 2010.

Prior to this, a deal had already been signed on June 29, 2009, with Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) for installation of the kits on these aircraft.

Pakistani defence officials subsequently confirmed on December 10, 2010, that a final agreement had been signed the previous week for the installation work by TAI.

Work then commenced around two months later, when the PAF sent the first F-16s to TAI’s facility in Ankara for upgrade. Only the first two or three aircraft are being worked on in Ankara, following which the remaining F-16s are being upgraded locally by TAI personnel in Pakistan.
 
Only the spirit of attack,
born in a brave heart,
will bring success
to any fighter aircraft,
no matter how highly developed
it may be.

-- Lt. General Adolph Galland
General of the Fighter Arm, Luftwaffe, 1941-45
104 Victories
 
63 and thats it IF is far from us as planet Pluto dear .itS in USA hands .thats mean hard to bring then bring from pluto lolz

i think ultimately US would deliver them..as US itself are retiring them pretty soon..i think around 2015 they would..but then it would need upgrades too..
 
Does this remind anyone of the old "carrot-and-stick" approach?

Games are being played from both sides. See the urgent delivery of JFT and J10s in the same light and the picture becomes clearer. At the end of the day neither side can live without each other especially in Afghanistan.So both will make compromises.No one wants to let go of their influence over the other.
Araz
 
Games are being played from both sides. See the urgent delivery of JFT and J10s in the same light and the picture becomes clearer. At the end of the day neither side can live without each other especially in Afghanistan.So both will make compromises.No one wants to let go of their influence over the other.
Araz

I agree with this. The persistently smarter players will in this game, would you not agree?
 
More Pakistan Air Force F-16A/B upgrade Kits Ordered
30-Jul-2011

LOCKHEED MARTIN was awarded a $42.31 million Foreign Military Sales contract on July 29 through the US Air Force for ten additional Enhanced Modernisation Program kits for Pakistan Air Force (PAF) F-16A/B Block 15 aircraft. The order follows on from a previous $325.485 million deal for 35 F-16A/B Block 15 Mid-Life Update (MLU) kits that was awarded to Lockheed Martin on May 21, 2010. Prior to this, a deal had already been signed on June 29, 2009, with Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) for installation of the kits on these aircraft.
Pakistani defence officials subsequently confirmed on December 10, 2010, that a final agreement had been signed the previous week for the installation work by TAI. Work then commenced around two months later, when the PAF sent the first F-16s to TAI’s facility in Ankara for upgrade. Only the first two or three aircraft are being worked on in Ankara, following which the remaining F-16s are being upgraded locally by TAI personnel in Pakistan.

More Pakistan Air Force F-16A/B upgrade Kits Ordered: key.Aero: The Homepage of Aviation

two important points,
first, now all of our existing fleet of F-16 Block 15 will have have a MLU.
second, this up gradation is being done locally. off course with US supplied kit and assistance of TAI as agreed!

a good news i guess,

regards!
 
Can somebody please tell me what are the theme colors of PAF F-16s,I am making a scale model and i am curious to know which colors are more suitable to our Falcon? Would be better if somebody pinpoints the exact Tamiya colors, Thanks in advance.
 
Can somebody please tell me what are the theme colors of PAF F-16s,I am making a scale model and i am curious to know which colors are more suitable to our Falcon? Would be better if somebody pinpoints the exact Tamiya colors, Thanks in advance.

I think the greys are the same as for USAF, my guesses are FS36270 Neutral Gray and FS36118 Gunship Gray.
 
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2011

Lockheed Martin awarded Pakistani F-16 upgrade deal under FMS

Jon Grevatt - Asia-Pacific Industry Reporter - Bangkok



Lockheed Martin has been awarded a USD42.3 million contract to provide upgrade kits for F-16 fighter aircraft in service with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF).

The contract was announced on 29 July by the US Department of Defense (DoD) and covers the supply of 10 additional kits for the Pakistani F-16A/B Block 15 enhanced modernisation programme. The deal - awarded by the US Air Force - is being processed through the US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) mechanism.

The order represents the latest effort to modernise the PAF's F-16A/B inventory, which entered service from 1983.

In May 2010 Lockheed Martin was awarded a USD325 million deal - under FMS - to provide 35 mid-life upgrade (MLU) kits for the Block 15 aircraft (as well as 18 MLU kits for F-16C/D Block 52 aircraft). These kits are being installed under a USD75 million contract awarded in 2009 to Turkey's Tusas Aerospace Industries (TAI). Work under this deal commenced in October 2010 and will take close to four years to complete. Other PAF F-16 upgrade deals were awarded to Lockheed Martin in 2006.

The F-16 modernisation deal was announced in the same month that Washington said it would hold back military aid to Pakistan.

Pentagon spokesman Marine Corps Colonel Dave Lapan said on 11 July that this funding - which totals USD800 million - is a combination of military aid in the form of equipment and reimbursement for Pakistani military operations under the US Coalition Support Funds (CSF). The CSF is an aid programme designed to support the Pakistani armed forces in the 'War on Terror'.

Col Lapan emphasised the delayed funds could be delivered if the two nations can resolve "certain issues", which include the number of visas Pakistan will allow for US service members serving as trainers and proof of military operations under the CSF programme to enable the processing of US reimbursement.
 
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Lockheed to provide Pakistan with 10 F-16 upgrade kits
July 29, 2011

By Greg Waldron

Lockheed Martin has secured a $42.3 million contract to provide 10 upgrade kits for Pakistan's F-16 A/B aircraft, under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme.

Despite troubled relations with Washington after the American special forces' 2 May raid into Pakistan to kill Al Qaeda chief Osama Bin Laden, the Pentagon continues to support the South Asian country's air force.

The upgrade kit deal follows a late July announcement that specialist communications producer L-3 Communications was awarded a contract to build two F-16C Block 52 aircrew training devices for the Pakistan Air Force.

In late May, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency announced that Pakistan had requested a FMS deal to acquire spare parts for a number of its aircraft, including the Lockheed Martin C-130 transport, F-16 fighter and T-33 trainer, as well as the Cessna T-37 trainer.

Earlier this year the Pakistani air force inducted 17 new F-16 Block 52+ fighters into 5 Squadron - part of an 18-aircraft deal signed in 2006.

Pakistan's 34 F-16A/B Block 15 aircraft are also undergoing mid-life upgrades.

Lockheed to provide Pakistan with 10 F-16 upgrade kits
 
This article may not be about Pakistani F-16s but it is highly relevant to the aircraft's sustainability over the long term...

ksl.com - Hill civilian's engineering saves millions on F-16 repairs
August 3rd, 2011 @ 2:29pm
By Steve Fidel

HILL AIR FORCE BASE — Moving parts that control the radar antenna inside the nose of an F-16 were designed to last a lifetime.

And they did.

But then that life expectancy of a decade or less was extended: The F-16 program turns 33 later this month, and F-16s are expected to be part of the Air Force inventory until 2025.

Maintenance complications have developed when the vastly extended life of the aircraft meant those lifetime parts began to need repair. In the case of the radar antenna, removing the internal bearings sometimes resulted in $12,500 damage to the back of the surrounding base assembly, which takes 16 hours of labor to replace and requires another $12,000 in new electrical wiring.

Terry Rettenberger, an equipment specialist with the 416th Supply Management Squadron at Hill Air Force Base, took the problem to the component manufacturer in 2008. Instead of finding a solution, he said he was simply told: "That happens a lot."

The response stirred the creative energy of a man who does not have an engineering degree, but is an engineering "natural." He has also worked with missile systems and electrical components on the F-4. On his own time, he pilots his own plane, has built and raced dragsters and has a sophisticated metal shop at home.

He drew sketches and then went home and got to work. "I made all this at home with my own material," he said of the tools he has made.

Along with other tools Rettenberger built exclusively for use on F-16s, the the base now uses Rettenberger's innovations on each of the 550 to 600 F-16s that come through the repair depot each year.

The Air Force figures Rettenberger saved them $6.5 million in the first year alone. The accomplishment resulted in Rettenberger receiving an Air Force Productivity Excellence Award and a $30,000 reward from the Air Force's IDEA program.

"The IDEA program is an excellent way to reward employees who suggest ideas that create a more efficient way forward for the Air Force," said Teri Gibby, IDEA program manager at Hill.

Rettenberger credits his entire team for the design and implementation of his ideas. He used part of the reward money to expand his home and shop. "I bought more tools," he said. "I've got three ideas that I'm working on right now."
The USAF encourages such creativity from all ranks, military and civilian, as long as their ideas are submitted through appropriate technical and safety review panels. The F-16 is a very tight working aircraft, tight as in space limited. Foreign Object Damages (FOD) is a major concern and a non-accounted piece of metal even as small as a piece of safety wire can ground the aircraft for days. That 16-hours labor to replace a wire bundle through the avionics bay bulkheads has very much the potential to ground the aircraft because of unexpected problems. Anything to reduce that potentiality is desirable.

This article give the lay readers some insights into the rarely seen and not too glamorous aspects of military aviation: Maintenance.
 

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