Pakistan discusses Su-35, S-400, T-90 MBT purchase with Russia.

[Zarvan]

SU-35 talks are in goo stage not very initial as for S-400 that was happening for a while for me real news is T-90

 

[GURU DUTT]

SU-35 talks are in goo stage not very initial as for S-400 that was happening for a while for me real news is T-90

guess what india already has 1400 T90 MS tanks and knows in and out of T90 and has installed 1500 BHP engines in all of them with Israeli and french thermal sights and AC & targeting systmes & APC in all of them with latest target aquisition & fire control systems and other classified imaging and other sub systemes making them more leathel than most T90s avilabel in the world (basically MKI model of T90 MBT)

now russia is making this news so india speeds up past of immidiate order of 12 full S400 systems instead of just 4 right now

rest you can speculate yourself mulla ji

 

[salman-1]

Russia would sell those planes to us in response to Rafael deal, and Indian American ties. Russia is not answerable to India but can listen to it if strategic balance becomes an issue. See the example of Rd-93 engines for thunders, not a single hitch in a decade.

And more importantly Su35 will pave the way for chinese J11 or J16 models with paying some copy rights and buying same engines as used in Su35.

The way Teja got the American engine and we got Russian inshah Allah the same way Su35s will land here as Rafaels land in India.

 

[ZedZeeshan]

Why today’s date? It’s possible if it’s Off the shelf but Russia is not selling used Su-35. Even if Pakistan decided to order Su-35 in 2020, they will not join PAF until 2022. It all depends on the plane configuration, T-50 tech can be applied to SU-35.

Defense purchase is not like buying a T-shirt from local supper market, it takes long time to negotiate the contract.

BY todays date I actually mean is to order them quick. not off the shelf

 

[Arsalan 345]

why bring india in this ...?

infact russia is very smart it is making or spreading this news so india speeds up S400 & Super sukhoi MLU contract & FGFA cntract the way russia wants but India is reluctant and does not want the contracts the way russia wants it to be india is just buying few S400 not the way it wants india to buy a couple of dozen batteries of it or fund whole super sukoie R&D efforst and share half of FGFA cost when its not sharing technology the way india wants ... india is getting much more better and leathel weapns and good value for money deals from Israel , france and USA & Japan if pakistan is getting better deals from russia why should pakistn hesitate in getting them india is not stopping pakistan nor is china stopping teach these kids art of buisness @MastanKhan saheb

I believe that Russia is your old friend.the reason I bring India in this conversation is because I feel that Russia now feels that their weapons aren't preferred by Indian armed forces so they decided to tilt towards other countries.nobody is stopping India from getting weapons from Europe but inviting american Navy in indian ocean is a totally different thing.growing relations of India with America is also responsible for the Russian relationship with other countries specially countries that India hate.may be they are doing it for fgfa or s-400 but Indian policy is not same for Russia now.

 

[PakShaheen79]

I think Indians got Russian message loud and clear and that's why this is happening there ... read carefully how Indian ministry asked IAF to look for "Twin-Engine" as well. Most probably, India will finish with purchasing more than 100 Mig-35 or Su-35 or some upgraded variant of MKIs.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/20-billion-defence-project-india-kicks-off-process-to-procure-110-fighter-jets-for-iaf/articleshow/63646424.cms?

 

[Zarvan]

guess what india already has 1400 T90 MS tanks and knows in and out of T90 and has installed 1500 BHP engines in all of them with Israeli and french thermal sights and AC & targeting systmes & APC in all of them with latest target aquisition & fire control systems and other classified imaging and other sub systemes making them more leathel than most T90s avilabel in the world (basically MKI model of T90 MBT)

now russia is making this news so india speeds up past of immidiate order of 12 full S400 systems instead of just 4 right now

rest you can speculate yourself mulla ji

Guess what our AL KHALID is there to answer you. For you T-90 is your main MBT for us it's mainly replacement for our older Tanks like T-59 and T-69 and T-85 and Al Zarrar in future we are more than happy with our AL KHALID as our main MBT

 

[GURU DUTT]

I believe that Russia is your old friend.the reason I bring India in this conversation is because I feel that Russia now feels that their weapons aren't preferred by Indian armed forces so they decided to tilt towards other countries.nobody is stopping India from getting weapons from Europe but inviting american Navy in indian ocean is a totally different thing.growing relations of India with America is also responsible for the Russian relationship with other countries specially countries that India hate.may be they are doing it for fgfa or s-400 but Indian policy is not same for Russia now.

there is no such thing is "friendship" when it comes to defence contracts and weapons slaes ... if pakistan has money and need to buy weapons from Russia why should india oblect and why will rissua not sell..?

russia should sell and pakistan should buy any weapon they like from each other where and how does india have any reservation ?


sorry we have amny other players infact india since early 2000 onwards have sarted deviateing from putting all its defnce needs in russian basket but kids of pakistan defnce forum think that india can and shoul only buy from russia ...why ?

we are now buying bulk of cutting edge weapons technology from ISA , Israel and france and Japan and also russia and we are alsi doing owr parellel R&D which soonafter owr setup is complete will comence mass production

now pakistanies can mock us as much as they like but ist still better than begging fro m others and living in denayal

 

[Novice09]

Biggest question is...


DO PAKISTAN HAVE MONEY TO BUY THESE TOYS???


Otherwise everything else is OK... if India can buy from US... why can't Pakistan from Russia...

 

[GURU DUTT]

Guess what our AL KHALID is there to answer you. For you T-90 is your main MBT for us it's mainly replacement for our older Tanks like T-59 and T-69 and T-85 and Al Zarrar in future we are more than happy with our AL KHALID as our main MBT

guees waht Mulla @Zarvan how many AL Khalid's you have against T-90 MS of india ..?
do you think indian MBTs will come alone ?
no they wont ever heard of spy sattelite or weapons locating radars or tungushka mobile anty air craft batteries or Light combat helicopter or Rudra gunshipr or Apache E2D or armed drones
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[Novice09]

do you think indian MBTs will come alone ...?

no they wont ever heard of spy sattelite or weapons locating radars or tungushka mobile anty air craft batteries or Light combat helicopter or Rudra gunshipr or Apache E2D or armed drones

He is still stuck in old days... head on head on field and dog fight in air are not that much possible scenario as they were 10/15 years back...

while China is leaping ahead to modernise its defense equipment... India is trying hard to catch them up in most fields...

 

[Zarvan]

do you think indian MBTs will come alone ...?

no they wont ever heard of spy sattelite or weapons locating radars or tungushka mobile anty air craft batteries or Light combat helicopter or Rudra gunshipr or Apache E2D or armed drones

And do you think we don't have answer for that we short down your Jets in Kargil with manpads we have enough systems now and growing to counter your Tanks and Helicopters dude

 

[Mr ambassador]

there is no such thing is "friendship" when it comes to defence contracts and weapons slaes ... if pakistan has money and need to buy weapons from Russia why should india oblect and why will rissua not sell..?

russia should sell and pakistan should buy any weapon they like from each other where and how does india have any reservation ?

,then why Indian authorities went to Russia few days ago for crying to not sale weapons to Pakistan ?

 

[GURU DUTT]

And do you think we don't have answer for that we short down your Jets in Kargil with manpads we have enough systems now and growing to counter your Tanks and Helicopters dude

guess what we learned owr lessons in 1999 and the flight cieling of your ANZA 1&2&3 is at max 4.5 KM even if its fired from a mountain top

but the flight cieling of LCA or apache are from 6Km (rudra & apache)to 6.5 KM (LCH) now you cant even target them with your manpadts and for your other SAMS they have active protections like onboard jammers ., Chaffs & flairs ...now what

,then why Indian authorities went to Russia few days ago for crying to not sale weapons to Pakistan ?

did russian athoiritoes told you indian came there for sale of weapons to pakistan

lolzz whats the valoume of sale of russian weapons sale to pakistan and whats the voloume of russian weapons sale to india use your logic

 

[Zarvan]

guess what we learned owr lessons in 1999 and the flight cieling of your ANZA 1&2&3 is at max 4.5 KM even if its fired from a mountain top

but the flight cieling of LCA or apache are from 6Km (rudra & apache)to 6.5 KM (LCH) now you cant even target them with your manpadts and for your other SAMS they have active protections like onboard jammers ., Chaffs & flairs ...now what


did russian athoiritoes told you indian came there for sale of weapons to pakistan

lolzz whats the valoume of sale of russian weapons sale to pakistan and whats the voloume of russian weapons sale to india use your logic

Janab your Army is not prepared they failed to do anything in 2002 failed to do anything after 2008 created false Drama of surgical strike which only led to you loosing 20 soldiers within a month of the claim including we entering your area twice and eliminating your soldiers their. So please bother to do something you will be given all kinds of answer