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Pakistan Denies Operation in N. Waziristan

I think you are correct on the point of Pashtun nationalism, which in my view has folded into and taken full advantage of the chaos of the atmosphere of terrorism and terrorists. Fortunately there is no such thing as a single, unified Pashtun point of view. Some are secessionists and some are loyal to the nation of Pakistan.
 
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This is a golden opportunity for pakistan.With internationally assisted military action,pakistan can rout out the terrorists and more importantly-pakistan can gain absolute control over lawless tribal areas which would otherwise be under the control of tribal elders for another 100 years.Vast chunk of areas with no govt control,where tribals rule by their own laws,is a threat for existence of modern pakistan.
 
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This is a golden opportunity for pakistan.With internationally assisted military action,pakistan can rout out the terrorists and more importantly-pakistan can gain absolute control over lawless tribal areas which would otherwise be under the control of tribal elders for another 100 years.Vast chunk of areas with no govt control,where tribals rule by their own laws,is a threat for existence of modern pakistan.


a fair and honest comment from an indian, :laugh: good to see! :tup:
let peace hail, and pakistan be happy without terrorism! :bounce:
 
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What exactly have you people been doing in afghanistan for the past 10 years ? we know you have been eating burgers from burger king at bagram but what else have you been doing that even now even as far as Herat PRT offices come under attack ?!
What is the use of the Afghan National Army ? Don’t they have any idea how to defend the borders of their country?
Pakistan is convenient scape goat to hide the incompetence’s of the US army and it training methods which have failed to raise an army capable of defining its own borders even after 10 years

A very good question to which all of the world deserves an answer from US and NATO....What have they done during the past 10 years to strengthen the ANA? What will happen when US/NATO forces leave Afghanistan? or are they not planning leaving ever?
 
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Q+A: Haqqani: From White House guest to staunch U.S. enemy

(Reuters) - Pakistan is gearing up for a military offensive against North Waziristan, a local newspaper reported, an operation that would pit the army against some of the world's most dangerous militants in the tribal region along the Afghan border.

Washington will push Pakistan to eliminate the Haqqani network -- which is based in North Waziristan and is one of its fiercest enemies just across the border in Afghanistan -- in any North Waziristan operation.

While the Pakistani military has launched major offensives in other regions in its unruly tribal belt, it has been hesitant to attack North Waziristan, which could pose the biggest risk.

Here are some questions and answers on the Haqqani network:

WHAT IS THE HAQQANI NETWORK?

Named after its leader Jalaluddin Haqqani, it is one of three, and perhaps the most feared, of the Taliban-allied insurgent factions fighting U.S.-led NATO and Afghan troops in Afghanistan.

Jalaluddin gained notoriety as an anti-Soviet mujahideen commander in Afghanistan in the 1980s. His bravery and ability to organize mujahideen fighters won him funding and weapons from U.S. and Pakistani intelligence services and Saudi Arabia.

Former U.S. Congressman Charlie Wilson, who fund-raised for the Afghan resistance, once called Jalaluddin "goodness personified". The warrior was held in such high esteem he visited the White House when Ronald Reagan was President.

After the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, Haqqani turned his ferocity and battle skills on Western forces. He earned a top spot on the CIA hit list, along with his old friend Osama bin Laden, whom he met during the anti-Soviet resistance.

Despite ill health, Jalaluddin, who is in his 70s, still inspires Haqqani foot soldiers believed to number up to 4,000, as well as other militant groups who revere him. His son Siraj, seen as more ruthless, runs the daily affairs of the network.

WHERE DO THE HAQQANIS OPERATE?

The Haqqanis are ethnic Pashtuns from the Zadran tribe in southeastern Afghanistan's Paktia province. The group is active across much of southeastern Afghanistan and seeks to regain full control over its traditional bases in Khost, Paktia and Paktika provinces.

The Haqqanis are thought to have introduced suicide bombing to Afghanistan. They are believed to have been behind several high-profile attacks in Afghanistan including a raid on Kabul's top hotel, an assassination attempt on President Hamid Karzai and a suicide attack on the Indian embassy.

The Haqqanis are based in North Waziristan, although they have been heavily targeted in recent months by missiles fired from pilotless U.S. drone aircraft.

WHY DOES PAKISTAN ALLOW THEM TO STAY IN NORTH WAZIRISTAN?

The Haqqanis have become one of the biggest sources of tension between allies Washington and Islamabad.

Pakistan has denied supporting the Haqqanis but has long resisted U.S. pressure to launch a full-scale offensive in Waziristan to crush the network for both domestic and foreign policy reasons.

As one of the most powerful insurgent groups in Afghanistan, the Haqqanis could act as a spoiler if Pakistan feels its interests are threatened in any settlement to the ten-year war.

It also sees the Haqqanis as the best insurance policy against the growing influence of rival India in Afghanistan.

But caving in to Washington and attacking the Haqqanis could further destabilize Pakistan.

The armed forces are already stretched fighting a nexus of dangerous homegrown militants -- both Taliban and other groups -- who have found shelter in Haqqani-controlled territory and in return for an unofficial protective shield.

"They see him (Jalaluddin) as the Guardian of the al Qaeda forces in this region. If Pakistani troops launch an all-out attack on the Haqqani network that would mean upsetting the hornet's nest," said Imtiaz Gul, author of "The Most Dangerous Place: Pakistan's Lawless Frontier".

WOULD THE HAQQANIS FIT INTO ANY AFGHAN PEACE SETTLEMENT?

Pakistan hopes the United States will eventually welcome the participation of the Haqqanis in any Afghan peace talks. Kabul also understands the group can't be excluded.

Although the Haqqanis fall under the command of Taliban leader Mullah Omar, U.S. officials believe they do not always accept Taliban authority and can act independently.

Jalaluddin has historically shown a penchant for changing sides, as the Americans know all too well, and he may be more flexible than the hardline Siraj.

Washington is scrambling to bring stability to Afghanistan before its gradual withdrawal in July of 2011. Striking a deal with the Haqqanis may be wise while the ailing Jalaluddin might still have a say.

Q+A: Haqqani: From White House guest to staunch U.S. enemy | Reuters
 
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2. for the bold part. operation??? who said its like an operation ? it was simple picking up your groupies easily airlifting them and thats all. no public scrutiny. you dont know the area thats why you are talking about public scrutiny.

Exactly. NATO doesn't need an 'operation' to transport their own TTP assets to safety in Afghanistan.
 
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What other option does Pakistan has, these pigs are killing innocent Pakistanis, so this is Pakistan's dirty work. They are launching attacks all over the country, should we just sit there and beg them to stop their attacks?

Another option would be to work actively with the Haqqani network to kill the TTP. The Afghan Taliban are probably better suited to root out and kill the TTP terrorists in those mountainous areas, and they probably wouldn't mind the practice.

There is ZERO doubt now that NATO is working against Pakistan, so why should we play their game?
 
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Plan for operation in N. Waziristan finalised: Mullen | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

WASHINGTON: The US military chief, Admiral Mike Mullen, said on Monday that the Pakistani government would launch a major offensive on militants in North Waziristan.

“It’s a very important fight and a very important operation,” the outgoing chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff told a television network.

In several interviews to US television channels, Admiral Mullen said part of his job as chairman had been to try and “close the trust gap” between the United States and Pakistan, which had built up over many years.

Mr Mullen said he visited Pakistan last week with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to “show the strength in terms of our commitment” because “we’re going through a difficult patch right now after the (Osama) bin Laden operation”.

The United States has long demanded the operation to eliminate the Haqqani network, which Washington claims is protected by Pakistanis.

Apparently, an understanding for the offensive was reached during the recent visit to Pakistan by Secretary Clinton and Admiral Mullen.

According to the plan, Pakistani aircraft will “soften up” militant targets before ground troops move in to wind up the operation. Pakistan had already prepared a blueprint for the offensive, which was finalised during the Clinton-Mullen visit.

Pakistani diplomatic sources in Washington confirmed that “both sides have agreed in principle to carry out the offensive”, but like their counterparts in Islamabad, they refused to say when they expect the operation to begin. Pakistan maintains about 140,000 troops in the tribal region but military experts in Washington say it will have to bring in more troops for the operation to succeed.

“We were very frank with them and they were very frank with us,” said Admiral Mullen while describing his meetings with Pakistani leaders in Islamabad last week.

“On the army side right now there is a very significant introspective look and review that is ongoing. And I think they are going to have to get through that. And that makes sense to me,” he said.

“I did hear from the military leadership their continued commitment to look ahead and work with us and we think that’s important.”

Admiral Mullen said the reports of his allegedly tense conversations with Pakistani leaders were ‘overstated’.

“We had a very good, frank, open discussion that touched on a wide range of issues. We thought it was important to have the meeting face to face to reaffirm the commitment to the relationship,” he said.

“The Bin Laden raid, specifically is something that I know the Pakistani military, the Pakistani intelligence agencies are focusing on.”

Admiral Mullen noted that Pakistan was located in a very critical part of the world. “We have common interests, and it’s important that both sides continue to commit to eradicating those terrorists.”

The US military chief pointed out that in the US “one of the things that does not get enough focus is the sacrifices that the Pakistani military has made over the course of the last several years”.

They have lost thousands of soldiers in this fight while “10-plus thousand” were wounded.

“They have a significant internal threat and I think it’s vital that we continue to try to figure out a way ahead, even through these most difficult of times,” the admiral said.

The US military chief said the “most important part” of his and Secretary Clinton’s meetings in Islamabad was the categorical statement that they issued, which made it clear that “we’ve seen no evidence of the senior leadership had any knowledge of Bin Laden’s presence there”.

Bin Laden, he said, had to have “some kind of network … to be able to sustain an existence” but senior Pakistani leaders were not aware of this network.

“And the Pakistanis hear America’s displeasure over that loud and clear I assume,” he was asked. “Yes, they do certainly,” the admiral replied.

Reuters adds: Humanitarian agencies active in Pakistan’s northwest have been quietly told to prepare for up to 365,000 displaced people in advance of the military offensive in North Waziristan, a senior official with an international humanitarian agency said on Monday .

The official, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject, was responding to reports that Pakistan would launch a military offensive against terrorists’ safe havens in the Afghan border regions.

“Humanitarian agencies operating in Fata and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa were given the heads up two weeks ago by the authorities of a possible displacement of up to 50,000 families,” he said.
 
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Another option would be to work actively with the Haqqani network to kill the TTP. The Afghan Taliban are probably better suited to root out and kill the TTP terrorists in those mountainous areas, and they probably wouldn't mind the practice.

There is ZERO doubt now that NATO is working against Pakistan, so why should we play their game?

That IS what is going to happen, the Pakistan Army will team up with the Haqqani network to isolate the TTP Mehsud group in North Waziristan.
 
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North Waziristan Operation: This is vital action to destroy the network and hopes of Terrorist . This action means Pakistan is ready to say big..... NO....... to terrorists and Taliban. I knew after the killing of Osama bin Laden, it would be hard to avoid north waziristan operation. Jihadi mindset had destroyed Pakistanis and due to them, Pakistan has been isolated and treated as an outcast by the decent world, now it is time for Pakistan to win the respect and confidence back. Now it is Pakistan's chance to demolish the network of terrorists and Taliban.

Pakistan is Hugely populous country of 180 million people and only chance for good life is by being allied to progressive nations not by allying with terrorists.

Ready, steady and go.........It is time for action........Pakistan. Kill the serpents :pakistan:
 
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I don't think at this moment this operation will help pakistan in lowering terrorist attacks in pakistan else this operation will result in increasing the attacks on pakistani civilians. basically we have to change there mindset. as what america is doing in Afghanistan just want peace full talks with taliban for the peace in afghanistan on the other side pressurising pak army to condyct operation in north waziristan which will eventually increase the enemies of paksiatn and also will change the thinking of north waziristani civilians opinions regarding pakistan.

as this is a propaganda that pakistan is going to conduct operation in N.W. just want to pressurize pak army bec they don't want to conduct it. Still now there is no authenticated news about this operation, As by BBC there is no official of pakistan said about this operation.

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think wisely don't be emotional my pak bro. thats my advice to all. thx
 
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Another option would be to work actively with the Haqqani network to kill the TTP. The Afghan Taliban are probably better suited to root out and kill the TTP terrorists in those mountainous areas, and they probably wouldn't mind the practice.

There is ZERO doubt now that NATO is working against Pakistan, so why should we play their game?

Here we go again.. The good terrorist and the bad terrorist..

Pakistan seems to be getting into the habbit of moving from one benefactor to another (USA to China) and One good terrorist to another ... :disagree:
 
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