Pakistan Continues its Policy of Cowardice Towards Afghanistan

[LimaCharlie]

Pashtunistan does not exist. There is only pakistan, we do not conform to the idea of ethnicities. We're pakistanis and that's that, any outsider who says otherwise should lose their heads

and that's exactly what many of them are doing
State always comes first and we will not harbor thugs which threaten the sovereignty of our nation

 

[Jungibaaz]

I'm not "scapegoating" Pakistan. I am pointing the very simple concept that what goes around comes around. You are pointing it out with respect to American foreign policy "mistakes", I am implying that Pakistan makes its own foreign policy "mistakes". One of which is harboring violent Afghan groups.

Name me one Afghan group which isn’t violent. I’ll wait.

Had you theoretically have propped up the Taliban in government, and removed the Northern alliance forcibly. Today they’d be called the terrorists and insurgents, and Taliban might be prancing around Kabul in suits in high security convoys.

I think the truth of Afghanistan conflict and why it failed hasn’t been told to the US public.

 

[LimaCharlie]

You know what? I really hate afghans.

Plus their colonies are eyesores for our otherwise beautiful cities

 

[Areesh]

China & USA are fighting with each other , however they dont ban EXPORTS.... but ban on imports only.

only an idiot will ban export of their own country.... specially country like Pakistan with no money in wallet.

Are you dumb or what?

These are not Pakistani exports. These are Afghan exports to India through Pakistan

 

[cloud4000]

Closing borders to Afghanistan will only punish the "good" Afghans, those who have nothing to do with the Taliban, TTP, BLA, etc. Still, In all my years on this forum, there seems to be a virulent anti-Afghan and anti-Pashtun animus.

 

[LimaCharlie]

Think of it this way
A family comes to your home to stay.
The father is a thug and a wanted murderer
The mother hates the country
and the children don't have a clue but show excessive signs of expressing their daddy's traits in the future
what would you do?
I'll sure as heck throw them out of the front door

 

[TruthSeeker]

You cannot honestly understand American intervention in Afghanistan without accepting that American rage over the al Qaeda attacks in 9-11-2001 was genuine. The USA would not have intervened and "screwed up" your neighborhood if the 9-11 attacks had not been done. You can fault us for the stupidity of our response, especially the invasion of Iraq that followed, but our stupidity was mightily provoked.

 

[El Sidd]

Closing borders to Afghanistan will only punish the "good" Afghans, those who have nothing to do with the Taliban, TTP, BLA, etc. Still, In all my years on this forum, there seems to be a virulent anti-Afghan and anti-Pashtun animus.

India is a culprit in Pashtun genocide in Afghanistan.

 

[LimaCharlie]

You can't risk the future of your state which you fought hard for just for a few "good" people
If that doesn't convince you, you should look up the hijrat movement in the colonial time, that will surely be an eye opener

 

[Zarvan]

Our overall policy is heading towards a disaster. For example in Karachi we think taking out goons like Uzair Baloch will bring peace. Issue is Uzair Baloch was doing all the crap on orders from PPP leaders including Asif Ali Zardari and he is still free and so are other leaders. So until you crush real leadership and hit those countries which train and support Militancy in Pakistan you are headed for a disaster.

@Horus @Areesh @Tipu7 @Sulman Badshah

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I'm not "scapegoating" Pakistan. I am pointing the very simple concept that what goes around comes around. You are pointing it out with respect to American foreign policy "mistakes", I am implying that Pakistan makes its own foreign policy "mistakes". One of which is harboring violent Afghan groups.

Like Jungibaaz pointed out - there is no 'non-violent' faction in Afghanistan.

And to clarify - my criticism of the US isn't about it's tactical military capabilities or ability to win conventional wars - obviously the US has overwhelming superiority that few nations, if any, can match.

But having unmatched conventional military superiority seems to result in blinkers being put on US policy makers - it is by no means a substitute for strategic, long term planning, especially when it comes to dealing with a civil war in another country.

The US failed in Vietnam and failed in Afghanistan, and the tide in Iraq only turned because AQ was so violent it turned the Sunni tribes against it, and not because of any great 'planning' by the US.

The US brings an axe wielded by a wrestler to a neurosurgery.

 

[BHarwana]

I'm not "scapegoating" Pakistan. I am pointing the very simple concept that what goes around comes around. You are pointing it out with respect to American foreign policy "mistakes", I am implying that Pakistan makes its own foreign policy "mistakes". One of which is harboring violent Afghan groups.

Lol.
seriously it has come to that?
My friend why would we harbor them? For what reason? Why would we supply them weapons? You need to look at afghan ground reality first. Taliban have no need to come & take shelter in Pakistan. They are living comfortably in Afghanistan.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Lol.
seriously it has come to that?
My friend why would we harbor them? For what reason? Why would we supply them weapons? You need to look at afghan ground reality first. Taliban have no need to come & take shelter in Pakistan. They are living comfortably in Afghanistan.

Even if the leadership is based in Pakistan, they have no impact on the insurgency on the ground. These aren't some strategic masterminds in the Quetta Shura that plan out every attack.

The insurgency on the ground, as we have pointed out repeatedly, is indigenous to Afghanistan and led by commanders and foot-soldiers in Afghanistan. You don't need the 'Quetta Shura' to plan every assault on a check-point or base or patrol, which number in the thousands.

The Quetta Shura has been and is an excuse for the US to blame its failures on Pakistan.

 

[El Sidd]

Quetta Shura

Warfare in Afghanistan is decentralized and cannot be coordinated hundreds of miles away.

US failure to understand Afghanistan is US's responsibility not Pakistan's.

America's strategic allies like India and Iran successfully honeywashed Uncle Sam for their own strategic goals.

 

[BHarwana]

Even if the leadership is based in Pakistan, they have no impact on the insurgency on the ground. These aren't some strategic masterminds in the Quetta Shura that plan out every attack.

The insurgency on the ground, as we have pointed out repeatedly, is indigenous to Afghanistan and led by commanders and foot-soldiers in Afghanistan. You don't need the 'Quetta Shura' to plan every assault on a check-point or base or patrol, which number in the thousands.

Sir Quetta Shura is a Hollywood & Bollywood myth.
USA never moved beyond Kabul & Taliban always controlled rest of Afghanistan. Americans need to look beyond the propaganda their CIA feeds them. Taliban had an operational embassy in Qatar during whole time of Afghan conflict & no one talked once about them being in Qatar. Water always flows down hill no one will blame the mistakes of USA.