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Pakistan condemns violence against Muslims in India

Who made you the representative of Indian Muslims? You seem to be one of the Jinnah's orphans left behind in India. Now go ahead and call me a hindu etc...
No one officially. But since my views are similar to majority of Indian Muslims, I do represent our community.

I don't care what bollywood loving mushrekeen and munafiqs like you think.
 
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Four innocent and normal persons burnt to death just because of being Muslim by their own countrymen?
And burnt alive?

Lol why would anybody do that? Reading news selectively? A hindu boy was in love with the muslim girl, so the girl's family got enraged and killed the boy hence the boy's family had to take revenge. These kinda things happen in villages in India. There are times when hindus kill other hindus or muslims kill other muslims too due to a reason like this cause they might be from different caste or different village. It will take sometime for these people to start thinking rationally. Until then sh!t like this happens sadly.

No one officially. But since my views are similar to majority of Indian Muslims, I do represent our community.

I don't care what bollywood loving mushrekeen and munafiqs like you think.

Majority muslims? lol lol lol It is so funny to see peolple like you from both sides of the border living in their own lala land. Even od PDF there are many Indian muslims who disagree with you, hell even Pakistanis disagree with you on certain things. You my friend do not represent the muslim majority, you represent ISIS AQ LET IM BOKO Haram the likes. Actually right this moment you might be under survelince who knows, it is just sometime until some agency snatches you and you disappear.
 
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But you would notice that it's happening a lot more in Pak than in India, as you yourself wrote. So you might want to review your theories. Anyway, I have said all I want to say. Not interested in a back and forth.

Same here.
 
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No one officially. But since my views are similar to majority of Indian Muslims, I do represent our community.

I don't care what bollywood loving mushrekeen and munafiqs like you think.
No one officially. But since my views are similar to majority of Indian Muslims, I do represent our community.

I don't care what bollywood loving mushrekeen and munafiqs like you think.
I know you are not the only Jinnah's orphan in India, there are a few more. just because you get a few thumbs up from pakistanis and bangladeshi jamatis, don't have any misassumptions about yourselves.
And bollywood is loved by all in South Asia from Afghanistan to Bangladesh... but why should you care.
 
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I know you are not the only Jinnah's orphan in India, there are a few more. just because you get a few thumbs up from pakistanis and bangladeshi jamatis, don't have any misassumptions about yourselves.
And bollywood is loved by all in South Asia from Afghanistan to Bangladesh... but why should you care.

Mohtarma, leave Jinnah Sahib out of your pithy arguments. If you want to fight with one of your fellow Indians....do so without sullying the name of Our Father.
 
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I know you are not the only Jinnah's orphan in India, there are a few more. just because you get a few thumbs up from pakistanis and bangladeshi jamatis, don't have any misassumptions about yourselves.
And bollywood is loved by all in South Asia from Afghanistan to Bangladesh... but why should you care.
1) I am not a fan of Jinnah
2) I don't support the idea of Pakistan
3) I like our Pakistani brothers like majority of Indian Muslims.
4) Fortunately people like you are a minority among Indian Muslims. Ok Miss Talisma Nasreem.
5) Any genuine cleric will label bollywood movies as haram.
 
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India really should have commented in the Christian burnings and massacres in Pakistan.

Lost an opportunity there, though I am sure GoI would have learnt its lesson and will make sure it asks Pakistan next time ;)
 
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Who made you the representative of Indian Muslims? You seem to be one of the Jinnah's orphans left behind in India. Now go ahead and call me a hindu etc...

that reminds me... muslims of india need a leader... someone who can talk, can guide to progress, has good understanding of what mistakes the local muslims are making, has a simplified understanding of global realpolitik, maybe someone who know what should the next "imam of all muslims" be like...
 
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that reminds me... muslims of india need a leader... someone who can talk, can guide to progress, has good understanding of what mistakes the local muslims are making, has a simplified understanding of global realpolitik, maybe someone who know what should the next "imam of all muslims" be like...

Indeed...After Pakistan, Muslims of India searching for BEST political narratives of their own. This is more of a need of time since Congress Secularism is dying his own death....sadly.
 
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that reminds me... muslims of india need a leader... someone who can talk, can guide to progress, has good understanding of what mistakes the local muslims are making, has a simplified understanding of global realpolitik, maybe someone who know what should the next "imam of all muslims" be like...
India will never have an exclusive leader for muslims but there can be a national leader who is a muslim. I dont want a leader who will further ghettoise the community and be a puppet in the hands of ruling party. Why i say that because muslims in India are not as oppressed as we made them out to be, they have all the fundamental rights and are equal citizens. Those who show traits of leadership avoid coming to center stage. Somehow they end up being a leader of the community and restrict their own growth. No muslim leader has ever tried to be a mass leader and look beyond his community for a variety of reasons.
 
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Indeed...After Pakistan, Muslims of India searching for BEST political narratives of their own. This is more of a need of time since Congress Secularism is dying his own death....sadly.

the congress ( and indian ) brand of secularism is different to the western understanding of it... in india it means "your community's nonsense is okay if you allow my community's nonsense"... hence in 2015 india has "honor killings", capitalism, suicides, dowry murders etc.

india should be the first in line to demand for socialism to come rid india of its many ills.

and one further thing i will write in reply to razia below.

India will never have an exclusive leader for muslims but there can be a national leader who is a muslim. I dont want a leader who will further ghettoise the community and be a puppet in the hands of ruling party. Why i say that because muslims in India are not as oppressed as we made them out to be, they have all the fundamental rights and are equal citizens. Those who show traits of leadership avoid coming to center stage. Somehow they end up being a leader of the community and restrict their own growth. No muslim leader has ever tried to be a mass leader and look beyond his community for a variety of reasons.

by leader i meant an awakener and renaissance man like iqbal... that is why i said "has good understanding of what mistakes the local muslims are making"... most problems that muslims are in are because of their own fault... they would rather cheer for taliban than for nasser.

the leader should be a transnational thinker... hence my agreement with you about such a leader not to be an exclusive leader of muslims... i want a muslim to lead all indians into real progress.
 
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the congress ( and indian ) brand of secularism is different to the western understanding of it... in india it means "your community's nonsense is okay if you allow my community's nonsense"... hence in 2015 india has "honor killings", capitalism, suicides, dowry murders etc.

Wrong. Honor killings and dowry killings are both illegal. Neither of them are "okay". Nevertheless they do happen, but that has nothing to do with secularism or religious tolerance.

IIRC suicide is illegal too, but how would you punish somebody who does it?

Indeed...After Pakistan, Muslims of India searching for BEST political narratives of their own. This is more of a need of time since Congress Secularism is dying his own death....sadly.
Political narratives can also be framed from a non religious, non communal perspective.
 
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Wrong. Honor killings and dowry killings are both illegal. Nevertheless they happen, but that has nothing to do with secularism or religious tolerance.

if not the underlined, what are responsible for those crimes then... there certainly are no martians coming to india and forcing families to honor kill or dowry kill.

those crimes have everything to do with the traditional indian ( and south asian ) reverence to "elders" and traditional cultural habits, however wrong and criminal they may be.

IIRC suicide is illegal too, but how would you punish somebody who does it?

one must punish those responsible for suicides, which will mean someone's mother or the the nation's "human resources and development ministry" ( responsible for school/college exams ) or some boss of a top coolie company ( like yen aar narayanamurthy of infosys ).

the system and the source of suicide must be punished, certainly not the victim.

Political narratives can also be framed from a non religious, non communal perspective.

capitalism is part of religion in india... guess how.
 
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1) I am not a fan of Jinnah
2) I don't support the idea of Pakistan
3) I like our Pakistani brothers like majority of Indian Muslims.
4) Fortunately people like you are a minority among Indian Muslims. Ok Miss Talisma Nasreem.
5) Any genuine cleric will label bollywood movies as haram.
question still remains who made Maulavi No 1 and sole representative of muslims in India !
 
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