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[Jango]

I think it was not only health reasons.

He was not getting the authority that a Chairman or MD should get, and instead, the airline had a strong influence of the Jiyala group and the multiple unions made in there. He didn't really have full control of the operations.

 

[SHAMK9]

Airblue's a340 lands at its new home.

 

[Jango]

That is a beautiful shot, only if it would have been in HQ.

 

[ThunderCat]

The 747-300s have some pretty good years in them. PIA should configure them in all economy class layout and use them for flights from Karachi to Lahore, Islamabad, Peshawar and back.

It could carry lots of people and build up plenty of profit as well as be affordable to middle class citizens.

That way the 300ERs can be used on international flights. But i think PIA's planning on keeping the 747s to be used during hajj seasons with all economy class configuration. So aside from twice a year, they'll be grounded and stored away to save maintainance costs.

 

[ThunderCat]

no doubt 777 are good but we do not need them,we already have 8 of them.These planes are large and with a lot more competition ahead(3 more Air lines are starting in 2012) it will be difficult for PIA to get these plans full with passenger.
PIA should have chosen 787 dream liners.777 is present and 787 is future

Wrong. The 787 does not have the passenger capacity of the 777 and there's an upcoming version of the 777, the 777-X series.

So 777 is still the future. 787 simply cannot replace the role of the 777 in any field. It can replace other types of aircraft but not 777 or even 767.

 

[razgriz19]

no doubt 777 are good but we do not need them,we already have 8 of them.These planes are large and with a lot more competition ahead(3 more Air lines are starting in 2012) it will be difficult for PIA to get these plans full with passenger.
PIA should have chosen 787 dream liners.777 is present and 787 is future

787 have 777 both have very different roles!
787 is made to replace the 767, PIA will probably replace A310s with 787 as they're very similar to 777s. Pilots who are qualified to fly 777 can also fly 787 due to ridicules similarities.

those 5 new 777-300ER that are ordered this febuary will take the roles of 747-300.
plus it will also enable PIA to open new routes that they might be interested in.

 

[razgriz19]

Pakistan’s Airblue to double fleet within two years
Pakistani carrier Airblue has plans to double its fleet to 12 aircraft within the next two years.

The carrier wants to add four 70-seater turboprops to its fleet by early 2013, says Airblue's general manager for commercial, Raheel Ahmed.

It is considering the ATR 72 and the Bombardier Q400, though the airline has not decided whether the aircraft will be bought or leased.

Airblue is scheduled to take delivery of two Airbus A340-300s in early September. These aircraft are on a five-year lease from International Lease Finance Corporation.

Ahmed says that the A340s will have 342 seats in a single class configuration. The aircraft will be deployed on a direct Islamabad-Manchester service, replacing the existing Islamabad-Istanbul-Manchester route.

In August, the airline took delivery of one Airbus A320, which will be used to up frequencies on its domestic routes.

As part of its network expansion plans, Airblue may launch new destinations in Europe, Middle East and China. A timeline has not been specified for these plans. Ahmed adds that the carrier aims to be a major player on services to Europe.

According to the Flightglobal Ascend online database, Airblue operates four A319 and two A320 aircraft in its fleet.
Pakistan

Q400 is the best choice!
the pilots love to fly them, and all the technicians love them too!
its an extremely maintenance friendly and extremely fuel efficient aircraft!
I visited bombardier and have seen the production facility myself

 

[Safriz]

PIA to ground Manchester, Amsterdam ops from 26th By: Amraiz Khan | September 29, 2012 | LAHORE - For, what aviation analysts term, implementation of an
agreement between the Pakistan International Airlines and the Turk
Hava Yollari, the PIA is going to cease its Manchester and Amsterdam
operation from October 26 without prior notice to passengers who had
made reservations, sources said on Friday.According to the THY-PIA
deal, the national airline is bound to operate direct flights only to London, Toronto, Oslo, Paris and Copenhagen. A former PIA marketing
executive said this move would result in loss of national flag carrier’s
credibility among its loyal clients and major profits since the airport
was a revenue-generating international station.It is also alleged that
the brokers of THY-PIA deal, who got staggering commission, had been
mounting pressure on the authorities concerned to implement it. The PIA was supposed to implement it for its summer schedule in 2011 but
could not do so because of strikes against the move.The PIA marketing
director is stated to be among the brokers of the deal. The director,
who was terminated over disciplinary grounds, has been reinstated
after his KP-based accomplice and PIA DMD serving in Investment
maneuvered to get him reinstated. These two men were close aides of former MD Aijaz Haroon, who was terminated after a major shutdown
strike called jointly by all PIA unions and associations.The PIA could
have temporarily suspended its loss-inflicting routes like Copenhagen,
Paris, Barcelona etc instead of rushing to cease its lucrative business
point after the pre-Haj schedule on October 26 since expats used to
celebrate Eid in their homeland. The THY has already been given traffic rights from Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad and with a 151-aircraft fleet,
it was seeking more passenger revenue-generating market, a senior
PIA officer said on condition of anonymity.On the other hand, a PIA
spokesperson said that a marketing study was being conducted and
after its completion, flight frequency would be increased on the profit-
giving stations.The official claimed that there was a rise in demand on South East Asia and Middle East sectors but the PIA flights were
insufficient thus profit could be earned by increasing the number of
flights on these sectors. However, he said the final decision would be
made after appointment of PIA chairman and MD. Manchester serves as
an airport of convenience for the majority of expatriates in the UK,
especially from Mirpur, Jhelum and Pothohar, KP, Hazara, AJK and

 

[SHAMK9]

Airblue's a340 lands at its new home.

PIA to ground Manchester, Amsterdam ops from 26th By: Amraiz Khan | September 29, 2012 | LAHORE - For, what aviation analysts term, implementation of an
agreement between the Pakistan International Airlines and the Turk
Hava Yollari, the PIA is going to cease its Manchester and Amsterdam
operation from October 26 without prior notice to passengers who had
made reservations, sources said on Friday.According to the THY-PIA
deal, the national airline is bound to operate direct flights only to London, Toronto, Oslo, Paris and Copenhagen. A former PIA marketing
executive said this move would result in loss of national flag carrier’s
credibility among its loyal clients and major profits since the airport
was a revenue-generating international station.It is also alleged that
the brokers of THY-PIA deal, who got staggering commission, had been
mounting pressure on the authorities concerned to implement it. The PIA was supposed to implement it for its summer schedule in 2011 but
could not do so because of strikes against the move.The PIA marketing
director is stated to be among the brokers of the deal. The director,
who was terminated over disciplinary grounds, has been reinstated
after his KP-based accomplice and PIA DMD serving in Investment
maneuvered to get him reinstated. These two men were close aides of former MD Aijaz Haroon, who was terminated after a major shutdown
strike called jointly by all PIA unions and associations.The PIA could
have temporarily suspended its loss-inflicting routes like Copenhagen,
Paris, Barcelona etc instead of rushing to cease its lucrative business
point after the pre-Haj schedule on October 26 since expats used to
celebrate Eid in their homeland. The THY has already been given traffic rights from Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad and with a 151-aircraft fleet,
it was seeking more passenger revenue-generating market, a senior
PIA officer said on condition of anonymity.On the other hand, a PIA
spokesperson said that a marketing study was being conducted and
after its completion, flight frequency would be increased on the profit-
giving stations.The official claimed that there was a rise in demand on South East Asia and Middle East sectors but the PIA flights were
insufficient thus profit could be earned by increasing the number of
flights on these sectors. However, he said the final decision would be
made after appointment of PIA chairman and MD. Manchester serves as
an airport of convenience for the majority of expatriates in the UK,
especially from Mirpur, Jhelum and Pothohar, KP, Hazara, AJK and

Not true, PIA would be shooting itself in the head if it was to shut down Manchester, it makes $hit loads of money from there.
PIA Denies Closure of Frankfurt and Amsterdam Flights
Lahore, September 29, 2012: Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) is operating all its European and UK stations including Frankfurt, Amsterdam and Manchester. PIA Spokesman confirmed here on Saturday.

He said that none of the present routes including Frankfurt and Amsterdam has closed down. While, Manchester is an important station of PIA and there is no possibility of closing down operations at this station. All PIA flights to USA on their journey towards New York have to make a stopover at Manchester so there is no question of closing down of Manchester. Besides, when PIA is selling tickets for these stations even on its web site (e-ticketing) how can it be presumed by anybody that these stations are being closed. PIA Spokesman added.

He said that such rumors about PIA operations when projected by electronic and print media seriously damage the sales of the National Flag Carrier and benefit foreign airlines as it creates doubt in the minds of traveling public at destinations abroad and in Pakistan.

PIA Spokesman said that few weeks back PIA organized a Marketing Conference, its recommendations and due to the directives of the airline’s Board of Directors’, the Corporate Services Department and the Marketing Managers are carrying out a thorough study of PIA routes. The study will identify loss-making routes and profit making routes with higher demand so that the frequency of flights to be adjusted on higher demand side in order to minimize PIA losses and increase its revenue for achieving operational profits with the existing fleet of 38 aircraft in quickest possible time.

PIA winter schedule is ready and will be effective from October 27, 2012 in which the airline will be in aggressive marketing mode to attract business in Europe, UK, USA and Canada especially during Christmas holidays. For the purpose, additional flights will be introduced and frequency of flights will also be increased to various destinations. Any policy decision would be after the induction of new management in PIA. Spokesman concluded.

Source: PIA Press Release (September 29, 2012)

 

[razgriz19]

if anybody wants to know more info about Q-400 then just ask. I have a booklet from Bombardier, they gave it to me when i went there.

Anyway can anyone pls tell me whats the average salary for a licensed AME in Pakistan?

 

[A.Rafay]

PIA saved $9.5m by not leasing aircraft: MD
PIA saved $9.5m by not leasing aircraft: MD | The Nation
LAHORE - Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) Managing Director Muhammad Junaid Yunus has said the airline saved $9.5 million by not leasing aircraft for Haj operation since both the 204 pre-Haj and 204 post-Haj flights were being operated by the PIA aircraft.
Informing about pre-Haj operation 2012, he said so far 100 flights, carrying 41,645 pilgrims, had been operated and flight punctuality regarding expected time of departure from Pakistan and expected time of arrival at Saudi Arabia was 94 per cent.
He was speaking as the chief guest of the certificate awarding ceremony to the successful participants of an air safety course organised by the Pakistan chapter of Society of Air Safety Investigators (SASI) at the PIA Training Centre on Saturday. He said it was heartening to note that the society was a group of Pakistan-based aviation safety professionals advocating for improving aviation safety in Pakistan.
“The PIA is committed to aviation safety and it fully supports safety education by this group. The PIA has in the past also supported and sponsored a number of such seminars and workshops. The new avenue of safety training should be benefited by all stakeholders and airline operators of the Pakistan,” the managing director said.
Speaking on the occasion SASI Pakistan Chapter President Wing Commander (r) Syed Naseem Ahmed said the society after Bhoja crash focused on two aspects – assisting the crash victims and education of aviation community on air safety. Talking to the media, he said by the next week, the PIA would start flights from Islamabad to Saidu Sharif, Swat, while it would increase flight frequency on profit-making routes and new destinations would be added to the PIA’s international network after November.

 

[SHAMK9]

PIA Islamabad-Saidu Sharif flights will start on November 5.
PIA Quetta-Kandahar Flights Expected to Start on December 15.

 

[Jango]

So whats the latest on the PIA acquisition of 777's???

There were orders with Boeing being discussed, then some wet/dry leases as well. What came of those two. And what is the final order/acquisition plan?

BTW, Air India has also freed up 5 777's, I have seen on the net some reports on this.

 

[SHAMK9]

So whats the latest on the PIA acquisition of 777's???

There were orders with Boeing being discussed, then some wet/dry leases as well. What came of those two. And what is the final order/acquisition plan?

BTW, Air India has also freed up 5 777's, I have seen on the net some reports on this.

Still no updates, Air India's 7LR's are three classed, refitting them will cost lots of money, i don't think that would be a smart move.

 

[SHAMK9]

Second a330-300 of Shaheen will arrive in Karachi today