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Pakistan, China ‘keen to get hands on leaked subs documents’

We will know it like the back of our hand lol.
Maybe, it one can be sure the information isn't disinformation ;-) Also, it is a very limited point of view to only see this from a Pakistani perspective: implications would be more far reaching (regional)

What's to stop the French releasing secrets of PNs Agosta 90b subs to keep IN happy?
Good point.
 
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  • The Australian
Pakistani and Chinese spy agencies would be doing all they could to get their hands on leaked documents that reveal the capabilities of India’s new submarine fleet, according to two former high-ranking Pakistani generals.

That was if they didn’t already have the documents, they said.

Former Pakistani army chief Jehangir Karamat said Australia should be “concerned” about using the same French firm, DCNS, to manufacture its subs.

The report in the The Australian this week about a 22,000-page leak containing the specifications of a French-designed sub destined for the Indian Navy has been the lead story on Indian television and on the front pages of its newspapers.

“India assesses vulnerability of Scorpene submarines after a leak of secret data,’’ said the headline on the Hindustan Times, while The Hindu led with a story about the sloppy handling of the highly sensitive documents by DCNS: “Not a tight ship, submarine project leaked like a sieve.”

Indian politicians and defence officials are fuming and are hunting the source of the leak while trying to assess the damage.

“The French-designed subs are so advanced, so silent under water that they are extremely difficult, if not impossible to detect,” said a report on English-language news channel NDTV.

“But according to The Australian, the leak of the 22,000 pages has technical specifications that would make detection possible.”

General Karamat told The Australian the leakwas“mind-boggling’’.

“I can understand Australia’s concern (that the same company is building its subs),’’ said General Karamat, who was previously Pakistan’s ambassador to the US.

“I guess it’s too early to say anything but the report does mention that China and Pakistan would be interested. Indeed, anyone involved in counter measures would be most interested.’’

Retired general Talat Masood, who also served as secretary for defence production in Pakistan’s Defence Ministry, told The Australian the leak was extremely embarrassing to India and France: “The point here is that definitely Pakistan would be interested because India has been expanding its naval fleet and it would very much like to know what are the capabilities of the submarine … this document, to a large extent, would reveal that.”

He said subs were vitally importance in the region. “The Chinese are building the corridor, and so on, and also the Indians want to expand their influence on the seas and the US has been supportive of that,” he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/08ee846d55965ce3d708a1a9b4c89da8

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On serious note: How damaging it is 4 India? What are the implications of such massive leaks?
Won't be surprised if we had them before they were even leaked. And even more sensitive intelligence.
 
so the Indians are considered discards, lowly compared to Australians by French according to OP article:
Don't seem too bright do you?
The deals are very different. In India the tech transfer was to Indian companies with DCNS not being made responsible for the production of scorpene number 4-6.

In Australia DCNS is directly responsible for building.
 
Why only limit the hands on the leaks to Chinese and Pakistanis? Even the US / USSR would be keen to get the snoops out - regardless of the fact that these two nations are India's friends.
 
Massive problem for India. At least the documents available on the net hints they are real enough.


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https://www.scribd.com/document/322047852/Secret-Submarine-Dossier-Document-11#from_embed

https://www.scribd.com/document/322047356/Subs-Document-3#from_embed
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haha oo Zalimaa serious hi ho gia ha tu tooo ... :)
 
Well indeed 22400 pages are not only about how to operate and maintain a sub and you are really not understanding the depth of subject here if it is to be true what that Media Guy is quoting, something is really serious as claimed. The journalist when says that hold secret or sensitive data in his possession would be very well aware that operating a Sub and Maintenance is not that sensitive and he wouldn't make himself a joke before Experts/countries.

If the news is not true, it is still not a loss for me that I never paid for that Info at all.


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French submarine builder tries to plug global leak in Australian court
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...t/news-story/92838db53f7b8b851a5f2b977d4e0305
 
Won't be surprised if we had them before they were even leaked. And even more sensitive intelligence.
Wont be surprised you had them even before the design was thought of. I heard in 2nd world war, the best way of British military propaganda against Nazi was Nazi's own secret service.
 
Don't seem too bright do you?
The deals are very different. In India the tech transfer was to Indian companies with DCNS not being made responsible for the production of scorpene number 4-6.

In Australia DCNS is directly responsible for building.


So it clearly means, India is responsible for Scorpene Leaks.. which is what the French have been saying all along, India leaked it. anyway the damage has been done. Pakistan and China already have all the docs long time ago as confirmed before...it's surprising it's made public now.
 

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