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Because our official position remains based on the UNSC Resolutions that call for the final status to be determined via plebiscite.

The Indian position is based on the instrument of accession by the Maharajah, and they're trying to back track on the UNSC Resolutions that THEY THEMSELVES asked for by taking the dispute to the UNSC, so they have an interest in ignoring the UNSCR's and just claiming the entire territory based on the Instrument of Accession.
Check out India's duplicity. In Kashmir's case which has majority Muslim population, India never held plebiscite to this date. While in Junagadh, it held plebiscite as soon as possible because it had Hindu majority.
 
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Jammu & Kashmir is internationally recognized disputed territory with UNSC Resolutions on it.
Junagadh officially acceded to Pakistan, Pakistan accepted the accession and even India recognized that the accession had taken place (though it refused to accept it) given on the record diplomatic cables exchanged between the two sides.

Not sure what kind of 'territorial aggrandizement' is involved here.
In regards to Junagadh, it is not an internationally recognized disputed territory, is it? So, you added J&K Union Territory because it is an internationally recognized dispute, but claims new territories because you consider it as disputed? India also annexed Goa - Pondichery and quite a few territories in and around the subcontinent which are recognized added to the maps of India.
 
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In regards to Junagadh, it is not an internationally recognized disputed territory, is it? So, you added J&K Union Territory because it is an internationally recognized dispute, but claims new territories because you consider it as disputed? India also annexed Goa - Pondichery and quite a few territories in and around the subcontinent which are recognized added to the maps of India.
Junagadh is disputed. Junagadh acceded to Pakistan, Pakistan accepted the accession, India recognized the fact that the accession took place and protested and then illegally invaded and annexed the territory.

Goa, Pondicherry and other territories did not accede to Pakistan and are therefore not in the list
 
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Junagadh is disputed. Junagadh acceded to Pakistan, Pakistan accepted the accession, India recognized the fact that the accession took place and protested and then illegally invaded and annexed the territory.

Goa, Pondicherry and other territories did not accede to Pakistan and are therefore not in the list
For you yes. You can dispute anything under the sun.

I didn't say Goa and Pondicherry should've been on the list. Simply that, these areas including Junagadh are not disputed territories, making untenable claims will only make the dispute settlement difficult and proves our point that your aim is simply a territorial expansion. Tomorrow you can claim districts of Delhi or Rajasthan finding a new excuse. What we are doing is right, don't cede an inch anywhere no matter what.
 
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For you yes. You can dispute anything under the sun.
No, Pakistan is basing its claims based on facts and law.

Jammu & Kashmir: UNSC Resolutions that override the instrument of accession

Junagadh: Instrument of Accession that is the only legal document in place, given that there are no UNSC Resolutions.
 
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No, Pakistan is basing its claims based on facts and law.

Jammu & Kashmir: UNSC Resolutions that override the instrument of accession

Junagadh: Instrument of Accession that is the only legal document in place, given that there are no UNSC Resolutions.

Great info. This should be the official stand of Pakistani govt.
 
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No, Pakistan is basing its claims based on facts and law.

Jammu & Kashmir: UNSC Resolutions that override the instrument of accession

Junagadh: Instrument of Accession that is the only legal document in place, given that there are no UNSC Resolutions.
As I said, there is no legality here. Pakistan didn't agree 'legal' accession of Princely state of Jammu and Kashmir.

Jammu & Kashmir: UNSC resolution and Shimla agreement

Junagadh: As laughable as it is until there is a UNSC resolution and/or bilateral agreement this dispute exists on the map. IMO this will only stall any negotiations in Kashmir which is fine with us.
 
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What does open-ended J&K means?
there are part of Tibet which are also under the occupation of superpower2012 (and wrongly called Kashmir). open means that once you evict the superpower, you will negotiate with China to determine what is Tibet and what is Kashmir
That means it is distributed area
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As I said, there is no legality here. Pakistan didn't agree 'legal' accession of Princely state of Jammu and Kashmir.
India herself took the dispute to the UNSC where the UNSC Resolutions supersede the Instrument of Accession now.
Jammu & Kashmir: UNSC resolution and Shimla agreement
Shimla does not supersede the UNSC Resolutions, it in fact endorses the commitment of both sides to the UN Charter and the UNSC Resolutions.

That said, Shimla has been explicitly demolished by both India and Pakistan now, with Kargil and alleged Indian surgical strikes.
Junagadh: As laughable as it is until there is a UNSC resolution and/or bilateral agreement this dispute exists on the map. IMO this will only stall any negotiations in Kashmir which is fine with us.
The bilateral (technically trilateral, since the British were involved) agreement was the partition plan agreed to by India and Pakistan. The formal accession of Junagadh to Pakistan, and Pakistan's acceptance of the instrument of accession forms the legal basis for Pakistan's claim to Junagadh.
 
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Correct, and India herself took the dispute to the UNSC where the UNSC Resolutions supersede the Instrument of Accession now.
Given both countries rejected the UNSC resolutions and we entered into Shimla agreement, the point being?

Shimla does not supersede the UNSC Resolutions, it in fact endorses the commitment of both sides to the UN Charter and the UNSC Resolutions.

That said, Shimla has been explicitly demolished by both India and Pakistan now, with Kargil and alleged Indian surgical strikes.
Not only Shimla agreement makes no mention of UNSC resolution, but it also mandates dispute settlement bilaterally. And Shimla agreement has no exit rules unless both sides agree to scrap it, which neither sides have requested to, yet.

The bilateral (technically trilateral, since the British were involved) agreement was the partition plan agreed to by India and Pakistan. The formal accession of Junagadh to Pakistan, and Pakistan's acceptance of the instrument of accession forms the legal basis for Pakistan's claim to Junagadh.
And India rejected such an accession, put an economic blockade, forced it's ruler out, and conducted a referendum which for obvious reasons was in favor of us. The lack of any UN resolution or bilateral agreement makes it some irredentist claim.
 
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This is a great move, it will surely open doors for us to take a decisive action against Indian atrocities in IOK.
 
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Given both countries rejected the UNSC resolutions and we entered into Shimla agreement, the point being?
Completely false. There is absolutely no official position from Pakistan on 'rejecting' the UNSC Resolutions and neither does Simla supersede the UNSC Resolutions. In fact, as I pointed out, Simla reiterates the commitment of both countries to the UN Charter, and therefore the UNSC Resolutions.
Not only Shimla agreement makes no mention of UNSC resolution, but it also mandates dispute settlement bilaterally. And Shimla agreement has no exit rules unless both sides agree to scrap it, which neither sides have requested to, yet.
There's no need for an exit clause since Simla does not supersede the UNSC Resolutions or override them. Show me where it states that the UNSC Resolutions are no longer applicable, because if that was the intent of Simla, it would clearly state so.
And India rejected such an accession, put an economic blockade, forced it's ruler out, and conducted a referendum which for obvious reasons was in favor of us. The lack of any UN resolution or bilateral agreement makes it some irredentist claim.
India's rejection of the accession and subsequent military occupation and annexation through force was and is illegal, hence Pakistan's continued claim to the territory.
 
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