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Egypt has 42 F16 of block 15... With mig29 coming these planes are easy to replace since alone f16's are 220... That is 5th largest fleet of f16 in the world...

All aircraft from Peace Vector I&II have been upgraded to Block 40 standards as a result of a MLU. Egypt, however, will not part with the jets, it makes up the back bone of the air force and will not sell them when it is pushing to replace all its previous gen jets (Mig-21, F-7 etc.). The arrival of the Mig-29/35 will be used to complement the falcons, not replace them. 4th largest fleet btw.

It has Sparrow F instead of AMRAAM

Also operates the AIM-7 M/P.

And no AIM9X... So the Egyptians bought better planes in the form of block52 but without the BVR option.

Pakistan doesn't operate the AIM-9X either. The Sparrow is still a BVR missile, that statement is factually incorrect, however, whether the Sparrow is adequate enough is another matter.

So upgrading those 42 old to block52 standard and not getting AMRAAM is waste of effort.

Pakistan already operates the AMRAAM, the only thing that limits the Egyptian fighters is the missile, not the software. If Pakistan buys (which will not happen) them then it should have zero problems integrating the AIM-120 on the fighters, which it did on its own fighters only a few years ago. Btw Egyptian F-16s have had the HARPOON integrated on to them, something which Pakistan does not have.

So Saudia helped Egyptians by financing the Mig29 deal with BVR

There has been no official indication that Saudi is financing the deal.

That will replace the older F16 versions

More orders of Block-52 aircraft will replace aircraft lost due to mishaps or attrition (which has already happened with the latest batch). The F-16A/Bs at Block-40 will remain in service for the foreseeable future.

secondly hasnt eygpt been known for poor maintenance of f-16s..what will be their condition.

Has pretty much the same attrition/crash rate of the Israeli Air Force, and you wouldn't think them poor maintainers of the air craft would you?
 
Btw Egyptian F-16s have had the HARPOON integrated on to them, something which Pakistan does not have.

Pakistan already has Harpoon in it's inventory and F-16s are not meant for maritime strike. Mirage III/V can carrry the Exocet, while the P3 Orions and naval ships carry Harpoon. And JF-17s are integrated with weapons that have longer range than Harpoons anyway. So no point in putting them on F-16s. If we want, we can get them integrated, nothing can stop us, since the aircraft and missile are both present with Pakistan. AIM120 is the true BVR weapon, something AIM7 cannot provide. There is a reason US refused AIM120 to Egypt and allowed AIM7.
 
Pakistan doesn't operate the AIM-9X either. The Sparrow is still a BVR missile, that statement is factually incorrect, however, whether the Sparrow is adequate enough is another matter.

i think its already discussed here that aim 7 range and the fact that its a semi active homing missile makes it far inferior than aim 120 fire and forget . most of the air forces have even retired aim 7.
and yes i think Egypt really wouldnt sell them other than of course its a way to provide pakistan f-16s(Egypt sells to us and gets more free from EDA via USA).
anyway sooner or later india will start pulling strings to stop this method too.
 
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Would a MICA A2A missile be cheaper then a AIM120?

I'm asking this because I believe the MICA has been integrated with the Blk60 and I could be wrong but I think it is cheaper than the AIM120. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
 
Right now Breaking News is coming that more F-16 from Jordan have arrived in Pakistan
 
PAF INDUCTS BATCH OF F-16 FIGHTER JETS FROM JORDAN
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Sargodha: Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has re-equipped her fourth Squadron with state-of-the art aircraft F-16, say media reports.

According to PAF spokesman, General Raheel Sharif, Chief of the Army Staff was the chief guest of the ceremony which was also attended by Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt, Chief of the Air Staff Pakistan Air Force.

A smartly turned out contingent of No 19 Squadron presented the general salute to the chief guest followed by the parade.

The Chief Guest transferred the Squadron flag to new commander and as per tradition of Pakistan Air Force, newly inducted F-16s of No 19 Squadron presented a fly past followed by a stunning aerial display, the spokesman added.

- See more at: PAF inducts batch of F-16 fighter jets from Jordan | Saach.TV
PAF inducts batch of F-16 fighter jets from Jordan | Saach.TV
 
42 is a big number, it may be possible as Saudis are financing the mig29 deal, they may have some influence in this regard. but in past eygpt has never showed interest in selling. secondly hasnt eygpt been known for poor maintenance of f-16s..what will be their condition.
Denmark has f-16s supposedly in storage..
Well Saudis these days are in really good mood they offered Jordan and Morocco to finance their weapons deals and also helping Egypt

PAF INDUCTS BATCH OF F-16 FIGHTER JETS FROM JORDAN
F-16-Fighet-Jet-580x333.jpg


Sargodha: Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has re-equipped her fourth Squadron with state-of-the art aircraft F-16, say media reports.

According to PAF spokesman, General Raheel Sharif, Chief of the Army Staff was the chief guest of the ceremony which was also attended by Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt, Chief of the Air Staff Pakistan Air Force.

A smartly turned out contingent of No 19 Squadron presented the general salute to the chief guest followed by the parade.

The Chief Guest transferred the Squadron flag to new commander and as per tradition of Pakistan Air Force, newly inducted F-16s of No 19 Squadron presented a fly past followed by a stunning aerial display, the spokesman added.

- See more at: PAF inducts batch of F-16 fighter jets from Jordan | Saach.TV
PAF inducts batch of F-16 fighter jets from Jordan | Saach.TV
How many have arrived I mean in ceremony 5 came before so How many came this time ?
 
PAF inducts fourth Squadron with modern F-16s

21 May, 2014

The aircrafts have been purchased from Royal Jordanian Air Force.

Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has re-equipped fourth Squadron with state-of-the art aircraft F-16s today.

A ceremony in this connection held in Sargodha today (Wednesday), which was attended by Chief of the Army Staff, General Raheel Sharif as chief guest. Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt was also present with him.

A smartly turned out contingent of Number 19 Squadron presented the general salute to the chief guest followed by parade. The Chief Guest transferred the Squadron flag to new commander and as per tradition newly inducted F-16s of Number 19 Squadron presented a fly past followed by a stunning aerial display.

It is worthy to note, that the aircrafts have been purchased at a minimal price from Royal Jordanian Air Force after series of negotiations held between concerned ministries and the concerted efforts of Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt.

Number 19 Squadron "Sherdils" was raised in 1958 at PAF Base Mauripur with 12 American origin F-86F Sabre Aircraft. During 1965 war, Number 19 Squadron, apart from other victories, has the unrivalled distinction of carrying out the first successful close air support mission at Wagha, and famous air strike at Pathankot airfield. It also has the honour of having six Sitara-e-Jurat. In 1990, the Squadron was equipped with Pakistan's newly acquired Chinese F-7P interceptor aircraft and was converted into an Operational Conversion Unit in July 1991.

The current Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt also commanded the Squadron with the onerous responsibility of setting up the new conversion unit. The unit has strengthened the defence of motherland by graduating 652 fighter pilots till date.

PAF inducts fourth Squadron with modern F-16s | Radio Pakistan





F-16 jets inducted to PAF fleet

May 21, 2014

SARGODHA: A batch of F-16 fighter jets was formally inducted to Pakistan Air Force (PAF) fleet on Wednesday at a ceremony in Sargodha city of Punjab, SAMAA reported.

Pakistan has purchased used F-16 jets from Jordan.

The ceremony, held at PAF base Mashaf, was attended by Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt, Jordon air force officials besides and officers from the Pakistan Army and PAF.

Smarty turned out contingents played military tunes to present guard of honour to Gen Sharif who was chief guest of the ceremony. - SAMAA

F-16 jets inducted to PAF fleet - SAMAA




F-16 planes from Jordan included in PAF fleet

By Mirza Hassan | May 21, 2014

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SARGODHA: Pakistan Air Force (PAF) on Wednesday organized a formal ceremony to include F-16 fighter jets from Jordan Air Force into the national forces fleet here at Sargodha Airbase.

The fighter jets arrived from Pakistan’s middle-eastern friendly country Jordan and were included in PAF Forth Squad.

The fighter aircraft have been purchased from Jordan and they were in the use of the Royal Jordanian Air Force (RJAF).

The ceremony started with the recitation of Holy Quran, Pakistan Army Chief General Raheel Sharif was the chief guest of the ceremony.

F-16 planes from Jordan included in PAF fleet | The News Tribe
 
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