Pakistan bans English for Islamic words!

[HariPrasad]

The word Mosque (from mosquitoes) has a derogatory meaning and used to describe Muslims by Spaniards when they went to the Masjid!

Edit: I was hoping you would research before discounting it. I don't like to spoon feed people, however here is the link:

The meaning and evolution of the word ‘Mosque’ | MuslimSpeak

I think you guys have mastery in finding Derogatory out of anything.

 

[IceCold]

He is a moron. What difference does it make if Rasool is called Prophet or Allah as God. This is just further going to increase the religious intolerance in the society.
Phela logon ko is lia qattal ker diya jata tha kah woh naff sa upper yah naaf sa necha haath baand raha hain, abb God khena per be kafir declare ker ka mar diya jai ga.

 

[Jungibaaz]

This is a very strange statement! Is the Nabi as'salaathu was'salaam not an Arab? Were the as'hab radi'Allahu anhum not Arabs? Are we not commanded to follow the Sunnah of Nabi as'salaathu was'salaam? Is the Quran not in Arabic? Are we not commanded to learn Arabic?

Yes to all. And still no weird complex do I display.

What bloody difference does it make which language I say these words in. Who are any of you to play God and deny my usage or pass down God-like judgement?

Take your Arab complex and keep them within your home, I've seen too much of it in Pakistanis.

Last point, this one will burn no doubt: You are not Arab, you were never Arab, it is highly likely that your ancestors were Hindus, or some other Vedic or ancient Indus valley religions. You will never be Arab no matter how much you display this complex habibi. You're unfortunately another South Asian.

In conclusion, we DON'T follow the Arabs of today.

Your logic is baffling. You've not given any good reason as to why these words should be such?

Apart from that BS mosquito = mosque thing. Are also the words 'God', and 'prophet' derogatory, part of some grand horseshit conspiracy against Muslims?

It's not wanna be Arab complex. Quran came in Arabic language and you can't translate Arab words in other languages exactly same way. Yes we know the liberal section would be getting heart attacks but now they are pretty much exposed.

Exposed to what? Incredible amounts of stupidity? Sure.

Liberals biggest lie they tried to sell that they are only against Mullahs and extremism and bla bla bla is exposed they hate Islam.

Molvi, don't have the gall to comment on other people's love of Islam. God knows best, and certainly extremists don't know anything.

Pakistan needs to introduce Arabic language in schools from class three teach it as a compulsory subject and also increase Islamic course massively.

Sure for educational purposes, why not? Also introduce Mandarin.

We speak Arabic words for our religious terminology anyway, I'm fine with that. But banning non-Arabic terms is just stupid.

 

[Zarvan]

Yes to all. And still no weird complex do I display.

What bloody difference does it make which language I say these words in. Who are any of you to play God and deny my usage or pass down God-like judgement?

Take your Arab complex and keep them within your home, I've seen too much of it in Pakistanis.

Last point, this one will burn no doubt: You are not Arab, you were never Arab, it is highly likely that your ancestors were Hindus, or some other Vedic or ancient Indus valley religions. You will never be Arab no matter how much you display this complex habibi. You're unfortunately another South Asian.



Your logic is baffling. You've not given any good reason as to why these words should be such?

Apart from that BS mosquito = mosque thing. Are also the words 'God', and 'prophet' derogatory, part of some grand horseshit conspiracy against Muslims?



Exposed to what? Incredible amounts of stupidity? Sure.



Molvi, don't have the gall to comment on other people's love of Islam. God knows best, and certainly extremists don't know anything.



Sure for educational purposes, why not? Also introduce Mandarin.

We speak Arabic words for our religious terminology anyway, I'm fine with that. But banning non-Arabic terms is just stupid.

Exposed meaning their real enmity towards Islam. Their problem was not with Mullah or other things they hated Islam and their problem is with Islam. Yes you don't still you offer salah if you offer in Arabic and you read Quran mostly in Arabic language . As Muslims every one loves Arabic as Muslims it's most important to learn it. Even Mullah manage to take advantage because you hardly know what Quran and Sunnah says. For that Arabic should be learnt.

 

[Gunsnroses]

@Jungibaaz am sure @Azad-Kashmiri is not aware of the corrupt intention behind it as much as I understand from his posts.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Good move. Good move. Way to go Pakistan

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

god damn they bite from same hole again and again where they try to enter . still they did not use brains . radicalized already everything and then more?

They don't need to use brains...What are personal sectaries for!

 

[utraash]

Good going.... One more manifestation of Pure version unleashed.....

 

[Imran Khan]

They don't need to use brains...What are personal sectaries for!

they are the one paying price of this BS and they will pay in future . nothing left in wanna be arab god damn we lost everything already .

 

[third eye]

Is ‘Oh my God’ going to become ‘Oh my Allah’ in Pakistan? – The Express Tribune Blog

Seriously Mian Sahab? You had the time on your schedule for this?

Recently, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif approved a list proscribing English translations of various Islamic terms such as ‘Allah’, ‘Masjid’, ‘Salaat’, and ‘Rasool’. I find it ironic that this came to my knowledge on July 5th, which is the day Mian Nawaz Sharif’s ‘roohani daddy’ Ziaul Haq imposed martial law in 1977.

Zia also passed a similar instruction which, over the course of time, replaced Khuda Hafiz with Allah Hafiz in all of our literature, visual media and in our daily conversations. Given our prime minister’s well-known rightist tendencies, and now this, it is not very hard to see the exemplification of the old saying “like father, like son”.

Here, I am going to outline a few reasons why this is a bad move, if not merely unnecessary.

1. It makes Islam look like an Arab religion instead of a universal one

There are around 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, boasting a remarkable racial diversity in their population. Islam is practiced all across the globe and not all parts of the world are under the influence of the Arab cultural imperialism as we are.

Every day, Muslims are using their local words when they refer to ‘Allah (SWT)’ and ‘God’ is just one of them. Islam was assimilated by the local cultures wherever it spread to. The closest example would be Sufism, where the Arab religion took up a sub-continental flavour. It is for these mitigations and assimilations that Islam is widely accepted by a variety of cultures and is practiced all across the globe. To be universal, every religion has needed to, somewhat, lose the image of being local to where it emerged from.

2. It goes against inter-faith solidarity

Is it wise to live in the 21st century yet highlight a distinction between ‘Allah (SWT)’ and God and ‘salaat’ and prayer? It makes the word ‘God’ seem like it represents a completely different deity than the one Pakistanis believe in. It is a fundamental tenet of Islam to believe that the author of the Holy Quran is also the author of three other holy texts. However, the only message indicated by this law is that when someone talks about God, they are not talking about ‘Allah (SWT)’.

Proscribing the word ‘God’ and enforcing this unnecessary distinction would further alienate the non-Muslims of Pakistan; especially the Ahl-e-Kitaab, with whom we find middle ground on the fact that, despite some differences, we worship the same deity.

3. It restricts personal freedom

It is highly unbecoming of a democratic regime to impose a linguistic change upon its population and barring them from using certain words in daily speech. It makes us fight instincts, which we naturally developed through the course of life and would make us watchful of ourselves, when using common figures of speech like “Oh my God”.

Is ‘Oh my God’ going to become ‘Oh my Allah’ in Pakistan?

4. It makes no sense from a linguistic point of view

It is like forbidding all Pakistanis from calling the ‘Qaumi Tarana’ our ‘National Anthem’. You are merely forbidding translation which means the same thing in a different language. What’s next? You’re going to pass laws that replace ‘Ramazan Sharif’ with ‘Ramadan Qareem’?

Hey! You can’t call it ‘water’! It’s aab.

5. It is regressive

It is a bit too late in human history to be exclusive rather than inclusive. These are the times when tolerance needs to replace intolerance, if we are to keep pace with the rest of the world. To make God a matter of ‘theirs and ours’ is not the way to go about it. The state should not be defining religious terms for its population.

Come on! You’re supposed to know all this, without me having to tell you!

6. It is a waste of time and resources which may go into enforcing this

Seriously, Mian Sahab? You had the time on your schedule for this? Wow, it must be fun to be the prime minister of Pakistan! Can you please ban the vegetable baingan (aubergines) as well? I hate it when my mother – oh I mean waalida – makes those.

Also, how will this law be enforced? Usually, this isn’t the kind of thing I would spend the taxpayer’s money over, if I was the prime minister. Well, maybe that’s just me.

7. It creates misconceptions about Islam

With the rise of radical Islam, the image of Muslims has been greatly tarnished. People in the West have recently grown increasingly sceptical of Muslims and many perceive the religion negatively. Muslims all across the globe are engaged in efforts to reconcile differences, bridge gaps between the Islamic world and the rest of the world, and are making great efforts to better everyone’s understanding of Islam.

To separate ‘Allah (SWT)’ and God and prayer and ‘salaat’ would only cause further confusion and hamper a better understanding. Such narrow mindedness would also repel potential converts, as this unwelcoming and virtually hostile gesture hints a lack of intellectual growth in Islamic thought.

8. It makes Pakistan look backward

When the prime minister of an Islamic country makes such an exaggerated gesture of over-religiosity, it makes him appear as a right-wing aficionado and his country will be perceived as backwardly conservative. As much as that may be true, there is absolutely no need to further highlight it. The whole world would point at us and say,

“Look! It’s 2015 and the Muslims of Pakistan are still not over the God versus Allah (SWT) debate!”

Are we?

 

[VCheng]

“Look! It’s 2015 and the Muslims of Pakistan are still not over the God versus Allah (SWT) debate!”

Are we?

Well, if we can change "Khuda Hafiz" to "Allah Hafiz", this can be done too.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Exposed meaning their real enmity towards Islam. Their problem was not with Mullah or other things they hated Islam and their problem is with Islam. Yes you don't still you offer salah if you offer in Arabic and you read Quran mostly in Arabic language . As Muslims every one loves Arabic as Muslims it's most important to learn it. Even Mullah manage to take advantage because you hardly know what Quran and Sunnah says. For that Arabic should be learnt.

I agree, learning Arabic is good, as is learning other languages. But banning non-Arabic terminology is the issue here.

 

[ryzvonusef]

I'm say "Oh Mein Gott" from now on, no law about converting German words in to Urdu!

 

[Dubious]

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[ali_raza]

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