Pakistan-Bangladesh relations thaw

[Nilgiri]

I can list tons of things which happened in those 24 years,but let's not dearail this thread further.
P.S:-Bengalis were always weeping for them being looted of their jute by evil West Pakistan but i hardly see contribution of jute in your 16% growth and i hope this growth rate makes family members of those killed by BSF happy.

LOL that proven dummy has already started on the walton TV export thing to Germany thats proven fake news now lol....just like the refrigerator exports to Thailand and motorbike exports to Nepal. Always something every couple months in BD "media" run by haseena lady to try prop up the inflated GDP her BBS nepotism agency is going all in for.

You always check these stories a year or so later (actual figures the destination country reports) and there is absolute zilch in the end haha.

Now even the RMG exports are tumbling...so just give it time, things will be proven to this sorry lot here this year (and next) more than you can imagine.

I am sure they will start a typical commensurate conspiracy cryfest about it too.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

SAARC is regarded as a great platform for South Asian countries

stopped reading after this.

 

[SIPRA]

Tbh, if we want better relationship with Pakistan, we also have to do something. We seriously need to move on from jute products. Past issues will only create bitterness.

How long such BS and useless argument of ego will be continued I have no idea. Both sides need to discuss maturely. There are thousands others topic to discuss other than old days BS!

Better we should stick to the topic and discuss how to improve relationship and work together!

Excellent post.

 

[bluesky]

So does that mean that China actually want Rohyngyas stay in Bangladesh? Just curious. Chinese stance on Rohyngyas are too much disturbing. So if Miyanmer military is expansion of Chinese, so is China ( no offense to Chinese people as its only a discussion) the real Player on Rohyngya issue?

Think another way. Could it be that India advised MM to expel the Muslims and China is acting to balance India by giving support to MM? India needs MM to help its NE to do international trade. Similarly, China wants to reach BoB through MM. India and China have no mutual interest in MM.

So, China counteracted India in the UN to please MM. Then, India sold an old submarine to MM. Some people are telling it was the West that is doing everything from behind. So, I ask what are the benefits the West will get by acting like that?

Look at what India is doing now. Think of its CAA and the other one. So, expulsion of Muslims from MM was a test case. Since BD is unable to counteract, therefore, India has started to play its dirty card. It will ultimately expell or kill all the Muslims.

 

[VikingRaider]

Some people are telling it was the West that is doing everything from behind. So, I ask what are the benefits the West will get by acting like that?

Although I am not fan of this idea, but still there are some valid points. In order to create anarchy in any region this is a proven plan. Bite as snake and then heal as healer. If you can create anarchy in this region, you can encircle most potential rival China.
So if west secretly do so, I wouldn't be surprised. But since conspiracy theories are almost impossible to prove ( because if you can prove anything what's the actual point of such secrete project?) such things so it always look like this.

Look at what India is doing now. Think of its CAA and the other one. So, expulsion of Muslims from MM was a test case. Since BD is unable to counteract, therefore, India has started to play its dirty card. It will ultimately expell or kill all the Muslims

I don't think that India will be able to do so. You saw the protest inside India and also BJP is losing states in bibhan sabha elections. Besides it's not easy to kill or detain 20 crore + people.

If India try to do so, India will be divided again. Miyanmer and India isn't the same type country, so can't act same doesn't matter how much Modi amit bark. India isn't anyone's sidekick in this region like Miyanmer.

And still if India will try to do so, I don't think Pakistan, Bangladesh and China will seat on hand to watch. India can be encircled successfully. But Miyanmer is such an unimportant country no one will be interested against it. Besides Miyanmer has Chinese veto. But India will get no veto as India isn't as important for anyone to access the deep sea!

 

[bluesky]

Although I am not fan of this idea, but still there are some valid points. In order to create anarchy in any region this is a proven plan. Bite as snake and then heal as healer. If you can create anarchy in this region, you can encircle most potential rival China.
So if west secretly do so, I wouldn't be surprised. But since conspiracy theories are almost impossible to prove ( because if you can prove anything what's the actual point of such secrete project?) such things so it always look like this.

I don't think that India will be able to do so. You saw the protest inside India and also BJP is losing states in bibhan sabha elections. Besides it's not easy to kill or detain 20 crore + people.

If India try to do so, India will be divided again. Miyanmer and India isn't the same type country, so can't act same doesn't matter how much Modi amit bark. India isn't anyone's sidekick in this region like Miyanmer.

And still if India will try to do so, I don't think Pakistan, Bangladesh and China will seat on hand to watch. India can be encircled successfully. But Miyanmer is such an unimportant country no one will be interested against it. Besides Miyanmer has Chinese veto. But India will get no veto as India isn't as important for anyone to access the deep sea!

International politics is not something like a child's play. After de-colonization which western countries ever played childishly? Western countries are too busy with the progress/development of their respective countries. I do not think it is plausible for them to do nasty things in the poor BoB region.

Anyway, everyone has his/her freedom of thinking.

 

[VikingRaider]

International politics is not something like a child's play.

Exactly that's not child's play. And that's why

After de-colonization which western countries ever played childishly? Western countries are too busy with the progress/development of their respective countries. I do not think it is plausible for them to do nasty things in the poor BoB region.

It targeted Afghanistan in order to break Soviet and it was not colonial era. They played nasty and dirty and result is the taliban and other extremist group. Indeed it's not childish work! And that time west was busy of their development too!

I do not think it is plausible for them to do nasty things in the poor BoB region.

Afghanistan was poor too. Pakistan also was not rich. But that time that was a very important region because of Soviet. Same can be said for the poor BoB now is very important because of China. China is more of a threat than Soviet ever had for the West.

Anyway, everyone has his/her freedom of thinking.

Indeed everyone has freedom of thinking, and that's the reason some say that coronavirus is actually USA - Israel biological weapon, and others say that China herself is secretly making biological weapon and coronavirus is the result.

 

[UKBengali]

Make up mind,when did jute fell out of favour plz.
You whole randi rona about jute income has been debunked many times.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw267DdNpzX_NkkkpPlAOwFK&cshid=1581991593375
Doing it again for you folks.
Jute makes still upto 2.6 billion USD in globel bag industries.
WoT in Pakistan coupled with electric crisis was blessing for East Bengal on top of that dirt cheap labour.

Dude....

You are totally out of your depth here.

BD has 2100 US dollar nominal per capita expected to grow at 7% this year.

Pakistan has 1400 US dollar per capita expected to grow at 0% this year.

BD behaves like an efficient E Asian economy rather than the messy S Asian economies of India and Pakistan.

 

[bluesky]

It targeted Afghanistan in order to break Soviet and it was not colonial era. They played nasty and dirty and result is the taliban and other extremist group. Indeed it's not childish work!

You are right to say that America fought to expel the Soviet Union from Afghanistan. America was worried that the Soviet was contemplating to bifurcate Pakistan and enter the Arabian Sea through Baluchistan. I can see a very good reason for America to expel it.

Now, what America will gain by secretly asking MM to expel the Muslims? I do not have an answer. So, please educate me.

 

[VikingRaider]

Now, what America will gain by secretly asking MM to expel the Muslims? I do not have an answer. So, please educate me.

The case is not expelling Muslims. The case is creating anarchy. When creating anarchy is the reason and China is the main opponent here who can gain access to deep sea directly via Miyanmer, and it is a serious thing. USA can not establish it's hegemony in the region if China has such frequent access through Bay of Bengal! So everything is possible if you want to prevent China. Tell me what would happen if Bangladesh started war with Miyanmer? Probably we got the support from USA, and the result could be a war zone for international players! So this region could be the same as Pak - Afghan region.

However, it's not my idea. Let @Old School answer this in details, it's his idea but I found his logic appealing for some reason I already explained.

 

[Old School]

The case is not expelling Muslims. The case is creating anarchy. When creating anarchy is the reason and China is the main opponent here who can gain access to deep sea directly via Miyanmer, and it is a serious thing. USA can not establish it's hegemony in the region if China has such frequent access through Bay of Bengal! So everything is possible if you want to prevent China.

However, it's not my idea. Let @Old School answer this in details, it's his idea but I found his logic appealing for some reason I already explained.

Why don't you read some policy papers on US interests in Burma. There are hundreds out there. Those are written by professionals.

 

[ARMalik]

Come on guys, this is just lip service by BD because it is worried since Pakistan and China are arming Myanmar to teeth with latest weapons including JF-17s. Recently Chinese President Xi was in Myanmar and they have signed another CPEC like project in Myanmar with $50 Billions or more to be spent on it. Myanmar has great strategic importance for China and Pakistan. BD will very soon pay the price for all its Anti-Pakistan antics.

 

[UKBengali]

Come on guys, this is just lip service by BD because it is worried since Pakistan and China are arming Myanmar to teeth with latest weapons including JF-17s. Recently Chinese President Xi was in Myanmar and they have signed another CPEC like project in Myanmar with $50 Billions or more to be spent on it. Myanmar has great strategic importance for China and Pakistan. BD will very soon pay the price for all its Anti-Pakistan antics.

China but Pakistan?
Please explain.

JF-17 is just target practice for the 16 plane MRCA contract to be signed before June 30 this year. Thanks for wasting Barman treasure on this plane!

 

[VikingRaider]

Why don't you read some policy papers on US interests in Burma. There are hundreds out there. Those are written by professionals.

Where can I find the policy papers? Perhaps @bluesky too will be interested. Please post some link if the policy papers are available for public.

 

[ARMalik]

China but Pakistan?
Please explain.

JF-17 is just target practice for the 16 plane MRCA contract to be signed before June 30 this year. Thanks for wasting Barman treasure on this plane!

And thats your problem - you BD guys have really big mouths like the indians. Spilling garbage comes naturally to you people. End of the day you have more in common with the indians, and that is why the indians rule like their little province.

I would urge the Pakistan Government to down grade its relationship with BD, and put a restriction on all travel to BD.