Pakistan: Back to IMF again as expected.

[Aramagedon]

Caliphs lived more wealthier than Emperors.

Search on google “abbasid palaces”, “umayyad palaces ”

@Ziggurat “TepeSialk“

I asked you a simple question buddy ........ where are the remains of those huge palaces used by Caliphs? You instead posted a historical account mostly giving excuses for Roman and Persian fall, plus subliminally trying to tell that how Persians were better administrators and stuff.

I am not going to post a counter historical account to prove Umar was a great leader and visionary. Serious readers can read your's and point out contradictions themselves.

Post something to show me the remains of those palaces ...... and it would be better to take this debate to "Whatever" or a separate new thread.

@I.R.A

As a Shia, Rafidi, who is badly disguised.

Please answer me does a guided caliph drink booze or not?

Umar used to keep alcohol in his water flask

We read in Ahl'ul Sunnah authority commentary of Sahih al Bukhari, Fathul Bari Volume 5 page 341 that:
"On one occasion Saeed bin Zai drank from Umar's water flask and he became intoxicated. Umar began to beat him and Saeed said to him 'My only wrongdoing was that I drank from your flask' (Upon hearing this) Umar replied 'I am beating you, as I want to know why you became intoxicated".

Umar’s love of ‘Nabidh’ alcohol
Nabidh is a drink that is prepared by fermenting crushed dates / grapes.
It was Hadhrath Umar’s favourite alcoholic drink.
We read in Muwatta of Imam Malik, Book 45, Number 45.6.21, Chapter Madina:

Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from Abd ar-Rahman ibn al-Qasim that Aslam, the mawla of Umar ibn al-Khattab informed him that he had visited Abdullah ibn Ayyash al-Makhzumi. He saw that he had some nabidh with him and he was at that moment on the way to Makka. Aslam said to him, ”Umar ibn al-Khattab loves this drink.” Abdullah ibn Ayyash therefore carried a great drinking bowl and brought it to Umar ibn al-Khattab and placed it before him. Umar brought it near to him and then raised his head. Umar said, “This drink is good,” so he drank some of it and then passed it to a man on his right”.

 

[illusion8]

I am a Persian and I will send u to eternal hell even if I see u in India.

Okay, hot shot, put a lid on it.

You are going too far with your lousy threats.

 

[El Sidd]

Caliphs lived more wealthier than Emperors.

Search on google “abbasid palaces”, “umayyad palaces ”



@I.R.A

As a Shia, Rafidi, who is badly disguised.

Please answer me does a guided caliph drink booze or not?

Umar used to keep alcohol in his water flask

We read in Ahl'ul Sunnah authority commentary of Sahih al Bukhari, Fathul Bari Volume 5 page 341 that:
"On one occasion Saeed bin Zai drank from Umar's water flask and he became intoxicated. Umar began to beat him and Saeed said to him 'My only wrongdoing was that I drank from your flask' (Upon hearing this) Umar replied 'I am beating you, as I want to know why you became intoxicated".

Umar’s love of ‘Nabidh’ alcohol
Nabidh is a drink that is prepared by fermenting crushed dates / grapes.
It was Hadhrath Umar’s favourite alcoholic drink.
We read in Muwatta of Imam Malik, Book 45, Number 45.6.21, Chapter Madina:

Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from Abd ar-Rahman ibn al-Qasim that Aslam, the mawla of Umar ibn al-Khattab informed him that he had visited Abdullah ibn Ayyash al-Makhzumi. He saw that he had some nabidh with him and he was at that moment on the way to Makka. Aslam said to him, ”Umar ibn al-Khattab loves this drink.” Abdullah ibn Ayyash therefore carried a great drinking bowl and brought it to Umar ibn al-Khattab and placed it before him. Umar brought it near to him and then raised his head. Umar said, “This drink is good,” so he drank some of it and then passed it to a man on his right”.

Do you have anything to say on the topic?

It is about IMF and Pakistan. You can take your cursing culture somewhere else on the forum.

 

[Mage]

Do you have anything to say on the topic?

It is about IMF and Pakistan. You can take your cursing culture somewhere else on the forum.

He's trying to give a secret message. If you decipher his words carefully you'll see he is telling Pakistan to stay away from Zionist IMF and their bailout package. Pakistan should embrace of Islamic(Shi'a Islamic to be more precise) economic system.

 

[El Sidd]

He's trying to give a secret message. If you decipher his words carefully you'll see he is telling Pakistan to stay away from Zionist IMF and their bailout package. Pakistan should embrace of Islamic(Shi'a Islamic to be more precise) economic system.

I have no problem with that. There is no shia sunni debate on Interest based economy. Both agree that interest based economies are a curse.

Its the mixing of political rhetoric with the deep seated sectarian racial slurs that are not welcome. I cant believe this country claims a heritage of the Persian Empire of Darius and Cyrus and Xerxes.

 

[padamchen]

I cant believe this country claims a heritage of the Persian Empire of Darius and Cyrus and Xerxes.

They can claim anything.

Darius and Cyrus and Xerxes were Mazdayasni emperors.

Ruling righteously on the true path of Ahura Mazda.

What do they know about their past? What do they know about the Faravahr that they wear around their necks and tattoo on their backs as some sort of cultural pop insignia?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Aramagedon]

Do you have anything to say on the topic?

It is about IMF and Pakistan. You can take your cursing culture somewhere else on the forum.

Curse is not a culture. And btw why shouldn’t we curse the people that martyred Ahlulbayt and changed Islam until arrival of last Shia Hazrat Mahdi (AS) son of Imam Hassan al-Askari (AS), 11th grandson of Prophet Muhammad (S), grandson of Imam Ali (AS) and Hazrat Zahra (SA)?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Mahdi

I don’t give a crap about Iranian kings/emperors however I respect them because they are my ancestors.

 

[El Sidd]

They can claim anything.

Darius and Cyrus and Xerxes were Mazdayasni emperors.

Ruling righteously on the true path of Ahura Mazda.

Cheers, Doc

Didn't you just receive death threats 2 pages ago?

Nobody knows who these people were. Its all a propaganda of history by pillagers and looters.

None can trace anything beyond Jesus

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Okay, hot shot, put a lid on it.

You are going too far with your lousy threats.

STFU bharti. What are you going to do about it?

 

[El Sidd]

Curse is not a culture. And btw why shouldn’t we curse the people that martyred Ahlulbayt and changed Islam until arrival of last Shia Hazrat Mahdi (AS) son of Imam Hassan al-Askari (AS), 11th grandson of Prophet Muhammad (S), grandson of Imam Ali (AS) and Hazrat Zahra (SA)?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Mahdi

Because cursing brings nothing.

You can do anything you want in your country. Just stop stealing Pakistan's Zakaat and stop blackmailing young people in the name of religion.

 

[padamchen]

Didn't you just receive death threats 2 pages ago?

Nobody knows who these people were. Its all a propaganda of history by pillagers and looters.

None can trace anything beyond Jesus

I've cut his much better equipped papas into little pieces culturally, racially, spiritually and historically on this forum years ago.

Many of them became good friends.

But I do not do Basiji ayatolla scum.

Cheers, Doc

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Didn't you just receive death threats 2 pages ago?

Nobody knows who these people were. Its all a propaganda of history by pillagers and looters.

None can trace anything beyond Jesus

Shah ka wafaadar ban ne ki zarurat ne he. #WooFWooF

 

[El Sidd]

I've cut his much better equipped papas into little pieces culturally, racially, spiritually and historically on this forum years ago.

Many of them became good friends.

But I do not do Basiji ayatolla scum.

Cheers, Doc

I have bigger issues to address in terms of IMF and the pillaging by aspiring capitalists in Pakistan.
Please spare this thread.
I am hoping that U-Turn Khan can be somehow coerced out of his IMF obsession.

Shah ka wafaadar ban ne ki zarurat ne he. #WooFWooF

Why would I? Topic and content do not make sense.

 

[Aramagedon]

As a person who have lived in Iran for 1300 years (my forefathers and mother are ALL Muslim for 14 centuries) I am a scum but you Bhuda animal aren’t scum because you live India?

I've cut his much better equipped papas into little pieces culturally, racially, spiritually and historically on this forum years ago.

Many of them became good friends.

But I do not do Basiji ayatolla scum.

Cheers, Doc

 

[padamchen]

As a person who have lived in Iran for 1300 years (my forefathers and mother are Muslim for 14 centuries) I am a scum but you Bhuda animal aren’t scum because you live India?

You've been living in Iran for 1300 years.

We are Mazdayasnis. And have been living on and fighting for the land for over 10,000 of recorded history.

Please do not insult that holy land.

GTFO of there at the earliest. And take your mixed mongrelized bloodlines with you.

Cheers, Doc