Pakistan asks India to hand over Jinnah House

[Navin A]

All temples in Pakistan are managed by Hindus.
Mosques demolished in India should be reconstructed and culprits punished.

Not going to happen

 

[Zen0]

Just to clarify. it's the Property of Jinnah. not Indian government or any rich Indian kid. so if you want to demolish it, Actually you should Pay us 2600 cr "on moral grounds". or just handover it to Pakistan's government.

Lol rediculous .

1. It's not the property of jinnah , jinnah is not a Indian citizen, ie can not have property in India .

2. Property contracts from British era are null & void if they aren't re-registered back in the 1950s , by default the land belongs to GOI

 

[Sneaker]

As many Pakistanis are very worried about sanitation in India we should demolish it and build toilet complex for poor people. And as a respect towards jinnha we should name it jinnha toilet complex. Win win for both

No need to demolish also..

 

[Ashesh]

This feeling is Mutual!

OKAY ,SIR.



whatever man. talking with You Indian's is like hitting your head against a wall.

I was here to show my concern, Present my POV. i have done that. You disagree, it's ok. You have the right to disagree.

Done with you. it's better to Play COD then dragging myself in a discussion with you which have no logic's and limit.

DOT.

FYI:
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/15785/pakistans-long-forgotten-hindu-temples-and-gurdwaras/

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/trib...rights-another-hindu-temple-demolished/?amp=1


https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/tribune.com.pk/story/117153/the-falling-temples-of-bhera/?amp=1

Well, Pakistanis (civilains) cannot own property in India. So has to be an Indian relative. I think Nusli Wadia and his family fit the bill.

The Government can indefinitely hold on to it. I get it.
But why not just give it to his relatives who are Indian citizens?

No they don't. UK's citizen.

FYI:

1. No enemy property can be transferred to the heirs after the 2016 amendment.

2. The court rulings on any enemy property are now null and void.

3. No Indian heir belonging to the 'enemy' can claim property.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.indi...16-rajya-sabha-pm-narendra-modi/1/904294.html

How is the Indian tax payer spending on Jinnah's house? As far as my knowledge serves me, it lies empty.

Tax Payers money is spent to up keep & Maintain it.

See I'm against demolishing it for the sake of "nationalism.


If you build a hospital or turn it into a memorial or what not, and name if after Jinnah, I'm all for it.

But lets not do it just to finger Pakistanis to appease the shallow egos of some right wing Hindus.

Afterall, it is part of history, whether it was in favor of India or not.

Bro, I also want History to be Preserved whether it's favors India or not.

However, I have problem with Pesudo Seculars & Counterfeit Intellectuals who suggests certain things to Hindus ie built school, collages & Hospitals on places of importance to HINDUS/Hinduism.

This forces me to support such issues ie Demolishing Jinnah House.

I know Shiv Sena won't like to build Hospital & name it after Jinnah. But I won't have problem if it's named after him.

 

[saurav jha]

No need to demolish also..

then what should we do sire?

 

[StraightShooter]

In a future Hindutva maniac India the Taj Mahal would seem out of place. Pakistan should ask for that too. Indians need no reminders of their Islamic past.

Taj Mahal is a goner and its days are numbered.

Taj Mahal: The True Story

https://www.amazon.com/Taj-Mahal-P-N-Oak/dp/0961161442

 

[NakedLunch]

Taj Mahal is a goner and its days are numbered.

Taj Mahal: The True Story

https://www.amazon.com/Taj-Mahal-P-N-Oak/dp/0961161442

This is what I found there:

https://www.amazon.com/Taj-Mahal-P-N-Oak/dp/0961161442

The Moghul Emperor Shah Jahan in the memory of his wife MumtazMahal built the Taj Mahal. It was built in 22 years (1631 to 1653) by 20,000 artisans brought to India from all over the world. Many people believe Ustad Isa of Iran designed it." This is what your guide probably told you if you ever visited the Taj Mahal. This is the same story I read in my history book as a student in India.
No one has ever challenged it except Professor P.N. Oak, who believes the whole world has been duped. In his Mahal's tomb but an ancient Hindu temple palace of Lord Shiva (then known as Tejo Mahalaya).
In the course of his research, Oak discovered the Shiva temple palace was usurped by Shah Jahan from then Maharaja of Jaipur, Jai Singh. Shah Jahan then remodeled the palace into his wife's memorial. In his own court chronicle, Badshahnama, Shah Jahan admits that an exceptionally beautiful grand mansion in Agra was taken from Jai Singh for Mumtaz's burial. The ex-Maharaja of Jaipur still retains in his secret collection two orders from Shah Jahan for surrendering the Taj building. Using captured temples and mansions, as a burial place for dead courtiers and royalty was a common practice among Muslim rulers. For example, Humayun, Akbar, Etmud-ud-Daula and Safdarjung are all buried in such mansions. Oak's inquiries begin with the name Taj Mahal. He says this term does not occur in any Moghul court papers or chronicles, even after ShahJahan's time.
The term "Mahal" has never been used for a building in any of the Muslim countries, from Afghanistan to Algeria. "The unusual explanation that the term Taj Mahal derives from Mumtaz Mahal is illogical in at least two respects. Firstly, her name was never Mumtaz Mahal but Mumtaz-ul-Zamani," he writes. "Secondly, one cannot omit the first three letters 'Mum' from a woman's name to derive the remainder as the name for the building."

 

[StraightShooter]

This is what I found there:

https://www.amazon.com/Taj-Mahal-P-N-Oak/dp/0961161442

The Moghul Emperor Shah Jahan in the memory of his wife MumtazMahal built the Taj Mahal. It was built in 22 years (1631 to 1653) by 20,000 artisans brought to India from all over the world. Many people believe Ustad Isa of Iran designed it." This is what your guide probably told you if you ever visited the Taj Mahal. This is the same story I read in my history book as a student in India.
No one has ever challenged it except Professor P.N. Oak, who believes the whole world has been duped. In his Mahal's tomb but an ancient Hindu temple palace of Lord Shiva (then known as Tejo Mahalaya).
In the course of his research, Oak discovered the Shiva temple palace was usurped by Shah Jahan from then Maharaja of Jaipur, Jai Singh. Shah Jahan then remodeled the palace into his wife's memorial. In his own court chronicle, Badshahnama, Shah Jahan admits that an exceptionally beautiful grand mansion in Agra was taken from Jai Singh for Mumtaz's burial. The ex-Maharaja of Jaipur still retains in his secret collection two orders from Shah Jahan for surrendering the Taj building. Using captured temples and mansions, as a burial place for dead courtiers and royalty was a common practice among Muslim rulers. For example, Humayun, Akbar, Etmud-ud-Daula and Safdarjung are all buried in such mansions. Oak's inquiries begin with the name Taj Mahal. He says this term does not occur in any Moghul court papers or chronicles, even after ShahJahan's time.
The term "Mahal" has never been used for a building in any of the Muslim countries, from Afghanistan to Algeria. "The unusual explanation that the term Taj Mahal derives from Mumtaz Mahal is illogical in at least two respects. Firstly, her name was never Mumtaz Mahal but Mumtaz-ul-Zamani," he writes. "Secondly, one cannot omit the first three letters 'Mum' from a woman's name to derive the remainder as the name for the building."

It also says

Taj Mahal, he claims, is a corrupt version of Tejo-Mahalaya, or the Shiva's Palace.
Oak also says the love story of Mumtaz and Shah Jahan is a fairy tale created by court sycophants, blundering historians and sloppy archaeologists. Not a single royal chronicle of Shah Jahan's time corroborates the love story. Furthermore, Oak cites several documents suggesting the Taj Mahal predates Shah Jahan's era, and was a temple palace dedicated to Shiva worshipped by the Rajputs of Agra city. For example, Professor Marvin Miller of New York took a few samples from the riverside doorway of the Taj. Carbon dating tests revealed that the door was 300 years older than Shah Jahan.
European traveler Johan Albert Mandelslo, who visited Agra in 1638(only seven years after Mumtaz's death), describes the life of the city in his memoirs. But he makes no reference to the Taj Mahal being built. The writings of Peter Mundy, an English visitor to Agra within a year of Mumtaz's death, also suggest the Taj was a noteworthy building long well before Shah Jahan's time. Oak points out a number of design and architectural inconsistencies that support the belief of the Taj Mahal being a typical Hindu temple rather than a mausoleum. Many rooms in the Taj Mahal have remained sealed since Shah Jahan's time, and are still inaccessible to the public. Oak asserts they contain a headless statue of Shiva and other objects commonly used for worship rituals in Hindu temples. Fearing political backlash, Indira Gandhi's government tried to have Oak's book withdrawn from the bookstores, and threatened the Indian publisher of the first edition with dire consequences.
There is only one way to discredit or validate Oak's research. The current Indian government should open the sealed rooms of the Taj Mahal under UN supervision, and let international experts investigate. END