Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

[iLION12345_1]

BTA-4 falls between IIM and 125III

Oh yeah, I forgot that existed, thanks a lot. Do we have any penetration numbers for it?

 

[Raja Porus]

Quoting from a document, "The Wrong track: Errors in American tank development in World War II."

"The 3rd Armored Division entered combat in Normandy with 232 M4 Sherman tanks. During the European Campaign, the Division had some 648 Shermans completely destroyed in combat and we had another 700 knocked out, repaired, and put back into operation. This was a loss rate of 580 percent."

Then the Americans make fun of the Soviets for following "quantity is quality itself " doctrine

 

[LKJ86]

Via @中国兵器第一研究院 from Weixin

 

[Dazzler]

Oh yeah, I forgot that existed, thanks a lot. Do we have any penetration numbers for it?

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Via @中国兵器第一研究院 from Weixin

More heart attacks in the neighborhood.

 

[iLION12345_1]

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More heart attacks in the neighborhood.

Understandable, thanks again.

 

[Imran Khan]

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Via @中国兵器第一研究院 from Weixin

they are here for training and after sales services i think ?

 

[Beast]

they are here for training and after sales services i think ?

Yes, they are engineers and designers.

 

[Imran Khan]

Yes, they are engineers and designers.

picture show they landed at NUR KHAN AIR BASE not at islamabad airport its means they were came on military aircraft

 

[Beast]

picture show they landed at NUR KHAN AIR BASE not at islamabad airport its means they were came on military aircraft

Engineers for NORINCO usually has special military service provided. In case, Indian or US agent steal their data or kidnapped them.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Pakistan should stop getting t-72 mods, we should find a way to make more affordable leopard class tanks; something like the Turkish Altay but slightly smaller and more affordable.

Bro calling vt-4 a t72 mod is a bit unfair don't you think.

 

[FuturePAF]

Bro calling vt-4 a t72 mod is a bit unfair don't you think.

a little (but I hope they prove be wrong)

 

[Signalian]

Pakistan should stop getting t-72 mods, we should find a way to make more affordable leopard class tanks; something like the Turkish Altay but slightly smaller and more affordable.

What this forum needs is veteran officer from armored corps, who can explain what armored combat is all about. The Operational capability of tanks in warfare and how they are or will be deployed in combat, the logistics and supplies they need and why driving is considered an important factor of armored forces. How are armored operations planned now with modern tanks. Just a glimpse, nothing detailed.

Mere specs like gun, armor, range, Hp of engine, and other few components are discussed mostly for tanks. Specs of all tanks are littered all over the internet.

VT4 or T-72 mod or Leo2 or Altay - Army make does of what it has.

As an example, 38 Cavalry was raised with Sherman tanks in 1971 while India had T-55 tanks since 1966-67. 38 TDU was converted and raised as 38 Cavalry on 1st Oct 1971 and it took part in war. The starting strength of the regiment were 44 x overhauled Sherman tanks, 3 x tank dozers, one officer and 75 men. The engines of these Shermans seized frequently as the sumps and filters had neither been changed or cleaned as they were attached to the body of the tank since 1953. It was too late for over hauling engines of these 44 x tanks so 12 x spare engines went along in combat with tanks. No one complained that Shermans could be facing T-55. Two broken down shermans were destroyed by other Shermans of 38 Cav through HE rounds so they dont fall intact in enemy hands. Most of the tank crew sent to 38 Cavalry from other units had been trained on M-48 Pattons or T-59 tanks. 38 Cav was to be made battle ready in 15 days from 1st Oct. It was deployed in operational area on 30 Oct and it took part in war after 60 days of its raising with 18th Infantry Division in desert, Rajasthan.

Things have improved today, however operational issues will continue to exist in peace and war.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

We Will in future see more use of stealthy kamakazi drones. Drones that can fire air to surface smart/guided munitions both autonomous and semi autonomous In order to resist electronic warfare moreover it will surely face long range smart artillery shells mlrs with smart submunitions and so on most of these will be fielded within a decade. if tank is to survive as an offensive weapon in the near future it has to be equipped with robust active and passive protection systems along with an excellent c4i.

 

[redtom]

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From appearance, I would guess from left to right, administrative supervisor, technical supervisor, senior engineer, junior engineer, driver.

 

[Raja Porus]

What this forum needs is veteran officer from armored corps, who can explain what armored combat is all about. The Operational capability of tanks in warfare and how they are or will be deployed in combat, the logistics and supplies they need and why driving is considered an important factor of armored forces. How are armored operations planned now with modern tanks. Just a glimpse, nothing detailed.

Mere specs like gun, armor, range, Hp of engine, and other few components are discussed mostly for tanks. Specs of all tanks are littered all over the internet.

VT4 or T-72 mod or Leo2 or Altay - Army make does of what it has.

As an example, 38 Cavalry was raised with Sherman tanks in 1971 while India had T-55 tanks since 1966-67. 38 TDU was converted and raised as 38 Cavalry on 1st Oct 1971 and it took part in war. The starting strength of the regiment were 44 x overhauled Sherman tanks, 3 x tank dozers, one officer and 75 men. The engines of these Shermans seized frequently as the sumps and filters had neither been changed or cleaned as they were attached to the body of the tank since 1953. It was too late for over hauling engines of these 44 x tanks so 12 x spare engines went along in combat with tanks. No one complained that Shermans could be facing T-55. Two broken down shermans were destroyed by other Shermans of 38 Cav through HE rounds so they dont fall intact in enemy hands. Most of the tank crew sent to 38 Cavalry from other units had been trained on M-48 Pattons or T-59 tanks. 38 Cav was to be made battle ready in 15 days from 1st Oct. It was deployed in operational area on 30 Oct and it took part in war after 60 days of its raising with 18th Infantry Division in desert, Rajasthan.

Things have improved today, however operational issues will continue to exist in peace and war.

Isn't @PanzerKiel of armoured Corps. I think, he will be the best man for this job. And to a great extent he has been performing this role. Also he is very active, knowledgeable and humble