Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

[mikaal]

why is that?? Rooivalk costs as much as an Apache, and is inferior.

a mix of Mi-35M and Ka-52 would be perfect for Pakistan

120 Mi-35M and 40 Ka-52

that would cost what $4 to $5 billion.

really dude thats your argument does the mi -35 or ka 52 come with tot ....no they dont
does the rooivalk has got the option of fully TOT....yes it has it might be a bit outdated in avionics side but can easily be tailored to your requirement plus if you add Eurocopter EC225 Super Puma which south africa is using and building in collaboration with airbus you get transport and medium attack helicopters .
two in one in one contract and if by chance we find some general loyal to our country who is a bit clever he can easily add the mraps and the new contract for light Armour vehicles all 4 items from south africa
when it comes to cost it will be a big contract all you have to do is open a mega contract for them with the financial and political problems south africa is we will get a good deal they need money

 

[C130]

really dude thats your argument does the mi -35 or ka 52 come with tot ....no they dont
does the rooivalk has got the option of fully TOT....yes it has it might be a bit outdated in avionics side but can easily be tailored to your requirement plus if you add Eurocopter EC225 Super Puma which south africa is using and building in collaboration with airbus you get transport and medium attack helicopters .
two in one in one contract and if by chance we find some general loyal to our country who is a bit clever he can easily add the mraps and the new contract for light Armour vehicles all 4 items from south africa
when it comes to cost it will be a big contract all you have to do is open a mega contract for them with the financial and political problems south africa is we will get a good deal they need money

what ToT do you expect to get??

 

[mikaal]

what ToT do you expect to get??[/QUO
you need to check what airbus have been doing with the super puma helicopters .the roovialk and super puma use same engines and a lot of similar avionics .
here is the example what they offered the Brazil and it was back in 2012
they got TOT OF 50% including the engine manufacturing plant as well And the contract was for all 3 forces and civilian market the contract was for 1.8 billion euros .
with Pakistan you will be opening even a bigger contract for two helicopters the attack and medium transport helicopters both and for all 3 services plus your civil an and paramilitary forces too.
south african and airbus are not selling much of these helicopters because Russian and american have nearly occupied the whole attack and medium helicopters requirements for nearly most of the world .so both helicopters need a customer to come in and do a deal with airbus and south Africa

you need to check what airbus have been doing with the super puma helicopters .the roovialk and super puma use same engines and a lot of similar avionics .
here is the example what they offered the Brazil and it was back in 2012
they got TOT OF 50% including the engine manufacturing plant as well And the contract was for all 3 forces and civilian market the contract was for 1.8 billion euros .
with Pakistan you will be opening even a bigger contract for two helicopters the attack and medium transport helicopters both and for all 3 services plus your civil an and paramilitary forces too.
south african and airbus are not selling much of these helicopters because Russian and american have nearly occupied the whole attack and medium helicopters requirements for nearly most of the world .so both helicopters need a customer to come in and do a deal with airbus and south Africa

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Denel Aeronautics is making ToT (in local MRO, co-production, offsets) a key part of its Rooivalk Mk2 offer, assuming the buyer also helps foot the development cost. Denel will reuse the Rooivalk airframe and engines, albeit with new dynamic parts.

Most of the added development will go into electronics, sensors and weapons, which are available off-the-shelf from a variety of countries. I also think many of these can be developed relatively cheaply in South Africa if need be.

The key though is the engine and dynamic parts commonality with the H215M Super Puma, enabling one to maintain a similar logistics and maintenance footprint for attack and transport helicopter.

 

[mikaal]

Denel Aeronautics is making ToT (in local MRO, co-production, offsets) a key part of its Rooivalk Mk2 offer, assuming the buyer also helps foot the development cost. Denel will reuse the Rooivalk airframe and engines, albeit with new dynamic parts.

Most of the added development will go into electronics, sensors and weapons, which are available off-the-shelf from a variety of countries. I also think many of these can be developed relatively cheaply in South Africa if need be.

The key though is the engine and dynamic parts commonality with the H215M Super Puma, enabling one to maintain a similar logistics and maintenance footprint for attack and transport helicopter.

sir the contract Brazil signed with aribus is just way too good. Its once in a life time chance for us to start our own helicopter industry with the help of a European partner .the full details of Brazilian contract are available if you google it on a website called jecgroup i cant post a link here because of being a new member .

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Zarvan]

COAS even flew T-129

 

[Reichsmarschall]

are we buying these choppers??
@HAKIKAT @Sinan @cabatli_53 ??

 

[ZedZeeshan]

are we buying these choppers??
@HAKIKAT @Sinan @cabatli_53 ??

In Sha ALLAH.!

 

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32nd T-129 rolling through production line

 

[Dai Toruko]

I can imagine it.

 

[Path-Finder]

Gen Bajwa is a Giant!

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Guys if this news has come true what are the chances of us getting the mpt-76. As the nespapers had reported?? @Path-Finder @Zarvan (the scar waley baba g)

 

[Zarvan]

Guys if this news has come true what are the chances of us getting the mpt-76. As the nespapers had reported?? @Path-Finder @Zarvan (the scar waley baba g)

MPT-76 has no chance T-129 was always known to us

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

are we buying these choppers??
@HAKIKAT @Sinan @cabatli_53 ??

Looks like the Pak Chief is eager to have a hand on them!!! He must have some interesting plans with them!!!! Anyway, exporting them was a part of the plan during inception as explained by the DM of the time...