Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

[HAIDER]

When did this happen,do you have any details?

If I am not wrong few days ago. But its not more then a week ago.

 

[jupiter2007]

If Pakistan decided to order it, it will be for 17 Helicopters.

I think PAA should accept ATAK or Z-10 which comes under TOT.

Nothing comes with 100% ToT.
It will be great if Turkey allow Pakistan to assemble these locally.

 

[HAIDER]

This helicopter has US made engine and European or British avionics....what TOT you guys talking about ?? . Its TAI will convince the US govt to issue third party certificate and in these type of third party dealing , mother party always look for some hefty profit....

 

[black-hawk_101]

This helicopter has US made engine and European or British avionics....what TOT you guys talking about ?? . Its TAI will convince the parties to all them to sell helicopter to Pakistan and in these type of third party dealing , mother party always look for some hefty profit in deals....

So Z-10 suites better?

 

[mehboobkz]

 

[xxxKULxxx]

This helicopter has US made engine and European or British avionics....what TOT you guys talking about ?? . Its TAI will convince the parties to all them to sell helicopter to Pakistan and in these type of third party dealing , mother party always look for some hefty profit in deals....

Avionics of T-129 is Turkish...

 

[monitor]

Avionics of T-129 is Turkish...

But produced under license if a am not wrong .

 

[xxxKULxxx]

But produced under license if a am not wrong .

I don't think so but better to ask it to @cabatli_53 or @Combat-Master

I don't think so but better to ask it to @cabatli_53 or @Combat-Master

Yes avionics are from ASELSAN... It's Turkish...

Here it's in Turkish from ASELSAN's website... There are also other sources in english on the internet...

T129 ATAK, TSK'ya Teslim Edildi. | Haberler | Basın Odası | ASELSAN

 

[Zarvan]

What I think we should do is get as many MI-28 as we can than wait for Z-10 to mature and than go for it

 

[AKINCI]

TURAF is considering to Super Mushshak for replacing old T-40s and SF260s. Total number may reach to 50.

Scope : T-41 and SF 260 Aircrafts which are used for primary training in Turkish Air Force inventory will be replaced with Primary Trainer Aircrafts to be procured within the context of this Program.

Project Model : Direct Procurement


Basic Trainer Aircraft Program

Really ?.. Or is something about Mushshak & HÜRKUŞ ?

 

[xxxKULxxx]

TURAF is considering to Super Mushshak for replacing old T-40s and SF260s. Total number may reach to 50.

Scope : T-41 and SF 260 Aircrafts which are used for primary training in Turkish Air Force inventory will be replaced with Primary Trainer Aircrafts to be procured within the context of this Program.

Project Model : Direct Procurement


Basic Trainer Aircraft Program

Bro what about this T-129 deal ?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Can you ask him again,and this time CAIC Z-10 against the T-129,you might be going for the Z-10?

I am religiously supportive of T-129 only.

 

[xxxKULxxx]

I am religiously supportive of T-129 only.

What you live for ?

 

[ozi2000]

Avionics

 

[Irfan Baloch]

What you live for ?

T-129 is based on a proven platform and Turkey just took the A-129 to the next level. everything about that helicopter is sleek and top tier the only handicap is the American power plant and we expect Americans to put an embargo onus soon after they are done with us and when we will need this equipment the most.

if Turkey can get an embargo free alternative then this will be a dream come true. I dont need to copy paste its capabilities again. whoever has seen its performance is absolutely sold to it it will be a true successor of our older cobra gunships.

Z-10 is sadly based on a stolen and incomplete western technology and although I have great admiration for Chinese hard work but I dont trust that helicopter that is based on some Chinese effort and rest on half stolen and covertly acquired western technology I mean no offence but I am talking about reliability of an equipment for the defence of my country here

I have same issue with Mi28NE as well as American super Cobra etc. Russia can pull the plug on its spares once we will face Indian hostilities (one might say same about Mi35 but they are mainly for TTP and Indian supported Balochi insurgents and we are not basing our national defence on a handful of Hinds) whereas any gunship/ attack helicopter replacing our cobras will be the backbone of he fighting arm of our army aviation corps
there is simple no room for sentiments, chance and naivety.

it is almost embarrassing to see how our decision makers are taking long and looking away when the Turks have made the most generous and of the box contract for T-129 maybe its the missing commission which they think they wont get if they go for Turkish helicopter. I dont know.