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I have credibility - I post in Pakdef.info and here and have certain avenues of information, lets leave it at that.

Dude, what the hell has been happening at Pakdef.info lately. I can't access it because it apparently was apart of some "suspicious activity" according to google and my Chrome browser diagnostic tool.
 
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Dude, what the hell has been happening at Pakdef.info lately. I can't access it because it apparently was apart of some "suspicious activity" according to google and my Chrome browser diagnostic tool.

Don't know been pretty quiet over there.
 
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Wait, why? These would be perfect for hunting down insurgents. They provide the perfect close air support that the PA needs.

Its only about Costs, It would be cheaper if we would buy 20 -30 Super Tucano and use them against the Talibs, while we use the T-129 only at the eastern Border !

By the way MUNIR a Member in pakdef.info (our Brother forum) posted a nice article in about the Turbo-air craft in Coin Role !
 
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OFF-TOPIC-I know-!

sorry but I must say it, you have a nice LOGO for ISI, may by you should contact them and offer it to the ISI-Media section, again sorry, but I mean it serious !

Its only about Costs, It would be cheaper if we would buy 20 -30 Super Tucano and use them against the Talibs, while we use the T-129 only at the eastern Border !

That would defeat the entire point. First off, we don't need the Super Tucano, simply because if we wanted to arm trainers, we got the K-8s to do that.

Second, the ST's aren't needed, as our other fighters (including the JF-17) are good enough to fulfill the job requirement as being light bombers.

Attack Helis aren't meant for patrolling long borders, they're meant for close range air support for troops on the ground, or as escorts for transport helicopters. So to put them in the east, and not use them against militants would defeat the entire purpose of having them in the first place.
 
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That would defeat the entire point. First off, we don't need the Super Tucano, simply because if we wanted to arm trainers, we got the K-8s to do that.

Second, the ST's aren't needed, as our other fighters (including the JF-17) are good enough to fulfill the job requirement as being light bombers.

Attack Helis aren't meant for patrolling long borders, they're meant for close range air support for troops on the ground, or as escorts for transport helicopters. So to put them in the east, and not use them against militants would defeat the entire purpose of having them in the first place.

How long can the T-129 stay in air and how long the Tucano ? K-8 cant do that job ! I did read hours about (K-8 and Turbo-prop-aircrafts) the discussions here in this from and in our both brother forums pakdef.info and ********************* the result of this discussions was that the Tucanos are CHEAPER and more effective for PAKISTAN in Coin and close air support operations.
 
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How long can the T-129 stay in air and how long the Tucano ? K-8 cant do that job ! I did read hours about (K-8 and Turbo-prop-aircrafts) the discussions here in this from and in our both brother forums pakdef.info and ********************* the result of this discussions was that the Tucanos are CHEAPER and more effective for PAKISTAN in Coin and close air support operations.

They're meant for different purposes. Helis are meant for close range support that have sustainability. The Tucanos would constantly have to make runs and keep going back to rearm and resupply. Helis can provide an escort and stay on targets from a stationary position, while, again, the Tucanos would have to make a run, turn around and make another run. By the time the Tucano turns and makes another run, the target could be given enough time to hide, run to safety, or worse, shoot the Tucano down while it's back is turned.

The K-8's can be upgraded enough to do the job the Tucanos do, but again, the JF-17s, Mirages, heck, even the F-16s could do the job and with a bigger payload. It would be a redundant capability.

Don't know been pretty quiet over there.

huh, such a shame. Sad to see a community decline.
 
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huh, such a shame. Sad to see a community decline.


pakdef.info is working very fine I dont know why you have problems with it, I am every day on 4 forums, first is pakdef.com, second p a k i s t a n i d e f e n c e . c o m, than defence.pk and indian bharatrakshak.com ( a very racist, anti Muslim anti China-arab-pakistani forum). The second forum is a died, sad but true.
 
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pakdef.info is working very fine I dont know why you have problems with it, I am every day on 4 forums, first is pakdef.com, second p a k i s t a n i d e f e n c e . c o m, than defence.pk and indian bharatrakshak.com ( a very racist, anti Muslim anti China-arab-pakistani forum). The second forum is a died, sad but true.

Apparently, pakdef has been suffering from viruses or something, at least that's what my diagnostic tool says. It uploads software without the user's consent.

I only really go on this forum anymore, I just have time to keep track of more than one.
 
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OFF-TOPIC-I know-!

sorry but I must say it, you have a nice LOGO for ISI, may by you should contact them and offer it to the ISI-Media section, again sorry, but I mean it serious !

first of all : i'm extremly impressed & inspired frOm PakisTan 's 1.S.1. not because i am a pakistani but because of the miraCles our |.S.|. puLL Off against the enemies 0f PakisTan ... :sniper:

SeCond thing is that : i,me myself Love this asToniShing Logo but un-fortunately i just can not simply contact 1.s.1. for the purpose you mentioned earlier as i do not have too many relatives in PakisTan military who can be of use for that matter ... :undecided:

but i give you full authority to communicate this I.S.I.'s LogO to the relevant guys of 1.S.1. ... :pakistan:
 
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MuZammiL Dr. s[1]n;4808817 said:
first of all : i'm extremly impressed & inspired frOm PakisTan 's 1.S.1. not because i am a pakistani but because of the miraCles our |.S.|. puLL Off against the enemies 0f PakisTan ... :sniper:

SeCond thing is that : i,me myself Love this asToniShing Logo but un-fortunately i just can not simply contact 1.s.1. for the purpose you mentioned earlier as i do not have too many relatives in PakisTan military who can be of use for that matter ... :undecided:

but i give you full authority to communicate this I.S.I.'s LogO to the relevant guys of 1.S.1. ... :pakistan:

Thx, this are god words keep on to support Pakistan !

I have many relatives in Pakistan Army, most of them if not all are in the Gujranwala Corps, when I will make again a trip to the Gujranwala Cant, I will ask the guys there about this issue.
 
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Thx, this are god words keep on to support Pakistan !

I have many relatives in Pakistan Army, most of them if not all are in the Gujranwala Corps, when I will make again a trip to the Gujranwala Cant, I will ask the guys there about this issue.

brOther , You are m0st We|||Come ... :pakistan:
 
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