Pakistan army head warns of change in Kashmir status

[MayaBazar]

India has already acknowledged it as a disputed territory in all international or bilateral declarations & so does the international community including UN.

No. India does not consider Kashmir as a disputed territory at all. Both houses of Indian Parliament have passed a resolution affirming the same back in 1994 . Any Indian going against this official position of the Government of India is simply breaking the law. You can read the details below.


QUESTION NO.2977 RESOLUTION ON Azad Kashmir IN PARLIAMENT
March 11, 2020

LOK SABHA
UNSTARRED QUESTION NO.2977
TO BE ANSWERED ON 11.03.2020

RESOLUTION ON Azad Kashmir IN PARLIAMENT

2977. SHRIMATI MALA ROY:

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Government is aware of a Parliament resolution on Azad Kashmir;

(b) if so, the details thereof and the steps being taken to realise the resolution; and

(c) the details of steps taken till date on Azad Kashmir?


ANSWER
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
[SHRI V. MURALEEDHARAN]

(a) to (c) Government’s consistent and principled position, as also enunciated in the Parliament resolution adopted unanimously by both Houses on 22 February 1994, is that the entire Union Territories of Jammu & Kashmir and Ladakh have been, are and shall be an integral part of India.

Government monitors all developments taking place in the territories of India including in territories that are under illegal and forcible occupation of Pakistan. We have consistently called upon Pakistan to immediately vacate all areas under its illegal and forcible occupation, and to put an end to the human rights violations and desist from continued attempts to bring material change in these territories.

https://www.mea.gov.in/lok-sabha.ht...2977+RESOLUTION+ON+Azad Kashmir+IN+PARLIAMENT

Parliament Resolution on Jammu and Kashmir

Following increasing terrorist violence and Pakistan’s attempts to highlight the Kashmir dispute, both houses of the Indian Parliament unanimously adopted a resolution on February 22, 1994, emphasizing that Jammu and Kashmir was an integral part of India, and that Pakistan must vacate parts of the State under its occupation. The text of the resolution follows.

"This House note with deep concern Pakistan's role in imparting training to the terrorists in camps located in Pakistan and Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, the supply of weapons and funds, assistance in infiltration of trained militants, including foreign mercenaries into Jammu and Kashmir with the avowed purpose of creating disorder, disharmony and subversion:

reiterates that the militants trained in Pakistan are indulging in murder, loot and other heinous crimes against the people, taking them hostage and creating an atmosphere of terror;

Condemns strongly the continued support and encouragement Pakistan is extending to subversive and terrorist activities in the Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir;

Calls upon Pakistan to stop forthwith its support to terrorism, which is in violation of the Simla Agreement and the internationally accepted norms of inter-State conduct and is the root cause of tension between the two countries reiterates that the Indian political and democratic structures and the Constitution provide for firm guarantees for the promotion and protection of human rights of all its citizens;

regard Pakistan's anti-India campaign of calumny and falsehood as unacceptable and deplorable.

notes with deep concern the highly provocative statements emanating from Pakistan urges Pakistan to refrain from making statements which vitiate the atmosphere and incite public opinion;

expresses regret and concern at the pitiable conditions and violations of human rights and denial of demoractic freedoms of the people in those areas of the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir, which are under the illegal occupation of Pakistan;

On behalf of the People of India,

Firmly declares that-

(a) The State of Jammu & Kashmir has been, is and shall be an integral part of India and any attempts to separate it from the rest of the country will be resisted by all necessary means;

(b) India has the will and capacity to firmly counter all designs against its unity, sovereignty and territorial integrity;

and demands that -

(c) Pakistan must vacate the areas of the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir, which they have occupied through aggression; and resolves that -

(d) all attempts to interfere in the internal affairs of India will be met resolutely."

The Resolution was unanimously adopted. Mr. Speaker: The Resolution is unanimously passed.

February 22, 1994

http://www.kashmir-information.com/LegalDocs/ParliamentRes.html

https://www.satp.org/satporgtp/coun...arliament_resolution_on_Jammu_and_Kashmir.htm

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

I think I mentioned the most significant cause.
Others -
1. If Kashmir gets into Pakistani sphere of influence, it hurts us. We are rivals, aren't we?
2. Plenty of people are just opposed to any idea of division. Hell, we have regional riots even when a state divides. Eg- Andhra/Telangana.
3. The location of Kashmir has strategic significance.

thanks for your reply, appreciate the insight you've provided.

1/4 Pakistani.
Lol.
I wasn't far wrong
What is the other ¾. That should be enlightening.

dad's side half Pakistani half Afghan
mum's side half Ozbek half Tajik

You have to be blind when traveling through India and not seeing that there are easily three broad racial groups present here, which have barely intermingled, except in a epochal pulse 2000 years ago.

yes, there are, Dravdoid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid. the dravidians were the first inhabitants of the indian subcontinent, then came (in very small groups) the prot-southeast Asians to the eastern indian subcontinent, and then came the Indo-Aryans from the Eurasian steppes.

 

[padamchen]

thanks for your reply, appreciate the insight you've provided.



dad's side half Pakistani half Afghan
mum's side half Ozbek half Tajik



yes, there are, Dravdoid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid. the dravidians were the first inhabitants of the indian subcontinent, then came (in very small groups) the prot-southeast Asians to the eastern indian subcontinent, and then came the Indo-Aryans from the Eurasian steppes.

Correct.

 

[Aryan0395]

Follow this twitter thread from Tanvi Madan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1264938204039438339

This is will certainly put a dampener on the wet dreams of many here

 

[Psychic]

Army needs to be expanded with conscription to meet India in a war.

I was reading somewhere that when Musharraf dismantled mujahideen network and sent them home, it was suggested that inorder to retain the capability of these forces, these mujahideen be made a part of a new paramilitary battalion. As expected, in view of new geopolitical "realities" related to Afghanistan, and expecting to surrender IOK to India to make "peace", this suggestion was turned down.

 

[Armchair]

I was reading somewhere that when Musharraf dismantled mujahideen network and sent them home, it was suggested that inorder to retain the capability of these forces, these mujahideen be made a part of a new paramilitary battalion. As expected, in view of new geopolitical "realities" related to Afghanistan, and expecting to surrender IOK to India to make "peace", this suggestion was turned down.

Musharraf was a traitor to the Pak ppl. I was there in Pak when i saw first hand how he turned patriotic Paks into full blown enemies of the state.

 

[HRK]

Pakistan has officially annexed GB a few weeks back.

factually wrong info and as alway false Indian Propaganda .....

 

[adelphi]

No. India does not consider Kashmir as a disputed territory at all. Both houses of Indian Parliament have passed a resolution affirming the same back in 1994 . Any Indian going against this official position of the Government of India is simply breaking the law. You can read the details below.

Then you must agree that Kargil war was not an intrusion but a civil war as NLI were Indians. Also India should not cry about cross border infiltrations when LoC is not a border and all Kashmiris are Indians and have a right to cross. You may pass a resolution claiming White House as Indian territory, doesn't mean it will become one. Pakistan has claim over full Kashmir and any piece of land claimed by two or more parties is considered disputed.

 

[MayaBazar]

Then you must agree that Kargil war was not an intrusion but a civil war as NLI were Indians. Also India should not cry about cross border infiltrations when LoC is not a border and all Kashmiris are Indians and have a right to cross. You may pass a resolution claiming White House as Indian territory, doesn't mean it will become one. Pakistan has claim over full Kashmir and any piece of land claimed by two or more parties is considered disputed.

The point is Pakistan has not officially claimed that any part of J&K as sovereign territory of Pakistan - Not GB, Not AJK, No Valley, Not Kargil.

Pakistan's position has been that you want people of J&K to make a decision while slowly changing the demographics of these regions to influence the results in your favor.

 

[ChennaiDude]

You're right, the Indian army has already tasted the Fantastic Pakistani Tea, maybe next time we'll give them Mango Lassi as well.

An IAF Pilot is the Indian Army-You dont have enough Tea or Mango Lassi to serve if that were to happen.

A question for you,

how does the government in New Delhi justify claiming a region where the inhabitants of that said region are aggressively against being part of the state of India, and i'm referring to Gilgit-Baltistan. how do indians justify that?
you don't have a greater claim to that land than the people living in that land.

If you wish to argue this further, read the thread on the UNSC Resolutions:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-kashmir-resolutions-explanations.7904/

 

[IMARV]

@Salahuddin Ayyubi

Dear, the bluff is past and do not fall for it now. The boat has sailed and Pakistan administered parts were never part of design. Don't waste time waiting.

Pak General is doing all the talks now, knowing they wont harm, knowing nobody anymore ask for action they were seeking post Aug 5, knowing Feb 27 is well sold. Pakistan army has already saved what was never threatened. Win Win.

 

[ChennaiDude]

I have to agree with you on this. Chinese are a very keen observers and known when to hit.

From what we have learned from History- China will escalate to an extent and then stay silent and let other nations fight in a conflict-China is trying to get into selling its weapons, like the USA-The best way is to get Nepal/Pakistan and other nations to bite and then stay back and watch the fun by cashing in on the weapons sale, this also send as clear signal to Taiwan and Hong Kong to, You know what!- China will not start a war for sure.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Pakistan considers Kashmir as disputed while India considers the entire state of J & K as its sovereign territory.

The UN and majority of the world consider it disputed territory.

Even when various power centers around the world call the J&K a 'bilateral matter', they're endorsing the disputed status of the territory.

With respect to what India believes - well, there is an adage about pigs flying (Modi travelling in an airplane doesn't count).

 

[adelphi]

Pakistan's position has been that you want people of J&K to make a decision

That's what it should be. All British Indian states got the right to choose so why not Kashmiri's?

while slowly changing the demographics of these regions to influence the results in your favor.

That's what India has tried or trying to do but failed miserably. The land belongs to Kashmiri's and they should be the ones to decide their future. Not Indians Not Pakistanis nor anyone else.

 

[ChennaiDude]

So the Pakistani ideology is to be a hypocrite???

Because that's what you're saying

Where does it say that all Pakistanis need to have the same mentality and same way of thinking????

I'm showing you the munafiqat of the people here and you're getting angry at me, shouldn't have expected anything else from the people here.

And I love how none of you have the courage to answer any of my questions and avoid it because you all know that you can't answer it.

I will expose Indian and Pakistani hypocrisy on this forum and no one is going to stop me, I'll show how similar both nation's are in their idiotic justifications which they wrap up in the name of patriotism.

I have to agree with you here-Couldn't have said it better.-Reference to - I will expose Indian and Pakistani hypocrisy on this forum and no one is going to stop me, I'll show how similar both nation's are in their idiotic justifications which they wrap up in the name of patriotism.