Pakistan Army has not violated LOC Indian claims are false.

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Any credible source?

Why would they not talk about remaining patrol party men???
1 RPG is enough to kill them all at a time.
It's common on indian side to kill officers and JCOs.
My relative once told me who was once posted at same sector that Indians kill their officers regularly and we have to go on red alert due to gun sound.
Haji peer sector don't support raids and ambushes. Terrian is the most difficult one on whole LOC. Soldiers even find it difficult to do patrols there, ambush is a more far difficult thing under such terrain.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well seems like they may have been riding a bike or open Jeep and may have acidently came across a tree branch which may have suddenly snapped their heads. Likely an accdeint by Tree in region

Normally running into tree branch can lead to serious injuries , specially if you were on motor bike or open end Jeep travelling at rapid pace

Quite coomon to run into branches , I believe there are lot of trees in region

Lot of danger in woods if you riding high speed vehicles and you run into tree

 

[Vazir]

Why would they not talk about remaining patrol party men???
1 RPG is enough to kill them all at a time.
It's common on indian side to kill officers and JCOs.
My relative once told me who was once posted at same sector that Indians kill their officers regularly and we have to go on red alert due to gun sound.
Haji peer sector don't support raids and ambushes. Terrian is the most difficult one on whole LOC. Soldiers even find it difficult to do patrols there, ambush is a more far difficult thing under such terrain.

Again, any credible source?

 

[Windjammer]

indian soldiers wanted to get rid of Naib subedar Paramjit Singh because he was sikh and killed him. The other soldier sided with JCO and died too.That's the only reason 7 other soldiers survived the firng and RPGs. Indian army have history of such attacks and suicides.
No crossborder firing took place today.

Suicides and fratricides are a major issue in the Indian armed forces.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Its not over yet...

we got upper hand on this sector. Terrain suits us. Just prepare more body bags for your men.

Suicides and fratricides are a major issue in the Indian armed forces.

In siachin indian soldiers throw their officers down the hill and blame bad weather. All revenge is taken at one instance.

 

[Vazir]

we got upper hand on this sector. Terrain suits us. Just prepare more body bags for your men.


In siachin indian soldiers throw their officers down the hill and blame bad weather. All revenge is taken at one instance.

Any credible sources? Seriously, don't just throw stuff without proof here.

 

[RISING SUN]

i never assumed it. Indians everywhere are using this term silent mode. And even saying it that because of this reason Pakistan army succeeded in accurately firing of mortors.

Dishonesty at its best. Care to provide the links for those "Indians everywhere"???

 

[lovepakaramy]

General Bajwa's visit is showing effects

Lets wait and watch Raj Nath's response

Maybe Pakistan will get a reply much more than she ever expected

- we are scared now
I really can't stop laughing after your comment.
Seriously you guys are really crazy more than we expected.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Most likely the folks may have ran into a tree branch

Indian jeeps are a bit low quality and likely the branch may have resulted in damage
You can see the vehicle if it ran into a branch likely would be quite deadly

 

[Laozi]

Joke of the week right here people

You seriously think your media is free and independent? Lets check what the World Press freedom index says about that:

Your great independent media is ranked at 136, and went down 3 places

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Meanwhile the oppressive propaganda state of Pakistan is ranked at, *drumroll*...... 139! and actually went up 8 places

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I genuinely feel sorry for you people, you are fed lie after lie and have such an obsessive nature that you feel the need to brag about those lies on internet forums of other countries.

@Areesh @Windjammer

If you feel your media is independent then think of these three recent incidents which happened in Pakistan. Starting with Dawn Leaks issue, Mashal Khan killing and then Ahsanullah Ahsan interview. And if you still think that your media is free then you are free to

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Sharp tree + Excessive speeding in Jeep = Accident

Should keep eyes open when driving

 

[RISING SUN]

This idea rests on the assumption that:

1. The PA knew of the departure and schedule of the patrol.
2. The so-called "BAT" had either infiltrated earlier or was able to do so instantaneously. Since the latter is not possible, we will assume the former to be true.

In which case there is very possibly a mole on the Indian side and that is a cause for great concern.



At which point, focus would have shifted back to the posts since those men posed no further risk but the posts and their mortar batteries did.



Indeed but as I said, cover fire doesn't discriminate and would endanger our men crossing over as well. Secondly, the whole things could be accomplished a lot more smoothly if no indication of an incursion (surgical strike in IA terms) had been given in the form of any fire which would have been completely superfluous and the men had simply ambushed the small patrol and retreated back to their own position. That would save a lot of ammunition and potential losses without foregoing the element of surprise.



My immediate relatives are cloth merchants but I don't get to tutor people on the fine differences between chicken, lawn and karandi. To me, everything is "cloth".

First point there was fresh intelligence as per my initial posted links that PA might be planting mines in that area. Now reports emerging it might have been used to lure them in open beyond safety. If you need, I can share links for both claims again. so yes PA might be in knowing that some IA patrol will come in that area. If that might have been the case, then BAT could have been present in nearby sector and directed towards the target. There might have been a mole or false intelligence, both dangerous no doubt.
Second point, if that had been the case, two PA bunkers would not have been provided direct fire support as per your claims. As that happened oppositely, it's common understanding that people manning these two posts would have known that they have asset in the immediate area thus fired on IA posts keep them under the cover. IA was unable to provide immediate fire backup when it mattered the most.

Last point I don't claim to be a defense expert. I am here to learn but have so much common sense that I can see things logically even if my country is at fault. No comments on yours though.

 

[BHarwana]

No PR-232/2017-ISPR

Dated: May 1, 2017
Rawalpindi - May 1, 2017:

Pakistan Army did not commit any ceasefire violation on line of control or a BAT action in Buttal sector (Indian Krishna Ghatti Sector)as alleged by India. Indian blame of mutilating Indian soldiers' bodies are also false.

Pakistan Army is a highly professional force and shall never disrespect a soldier even Indian.

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https://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o=t-press_release&cat=army&latest=1#pr_link3956

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Dishonesty at its best. Care to provide the links for those "Indians everywhere"???

on this forum many indians used the term "Pakistan did it taking advantage of indian guns at silent mode due to Paksitan permission of cease fire due to census". I cannot go through every comment again for you and that too in a situation where multiple threads are running at a time on same issue.
Prove me wrong if you can.

 

[RISING SUN]

Hahaha 7 killed for our 2 killed, this is just a start.

I know of PA causalities since last half an hour but not confirmation on numbers.