Pakistan Army Aviation Corps - Updated

[nomi007]

 

[nomi007]

 

[Inception-06]

Where I can buy this models in Pakistan ?

 

[fatman17]

Try army or airforce museums

 

[fatman17]

Cobra gunship

 

[fatman17]

Latest Z10 gunship

 

[Imran Khan]

Latest Z10 gunship

they are still here or gone back?

 

[Thorough Pro]

Probably the Climber was hooked to heli sling as well as retainer/rescue rope still attached the mountain, the later either snapped or the screw came out of rock to make the heli feel light/un restrained.

"Sir it is not pulling out," Rana said.

Suddenly, the helicopter started to sink and vibrate. Beg thought they’d entered vortex ring state and soon they’d all be dead. Beg looked into the mirror and saw the sling rope in full tension.

"Oh God," he thought, "he probably has not been able to cut his rope."

When the aircraft sank again, Beg took the controls and moved the helicopter to the right to the rotor tips hitting the rock. He then felt "a pronounced jerk" and the helicopter felt light.

"Sir," Rana shouted, "I think he has dropped." That sent a cold wave down Beg’s spine, but just then he saw Humar swing to the right on the sling rope. He immediately moved the helicopter further right so Humar would not swing back and hit the rock face.

They were clear of the mountain, but Humar was swinging badly below. It took Beg awhile to stabilize him. He then asked Rehman in the other Lama to close in and see if Humar was all right. To Beg and Rana’s relief, Rehman said Humar was fine and waving to him.

Beg established the required rate of descent and airspeed, then turned over the controls to Rana. Beg felt drained; Rana looked like he felt.

Source: www.aviationtoday.com

Can somebody shed some light on this about Heli becoming light again once it could not hv lift anymore ?[/QUOTE]

 

[Signalian]

Captain Naseer Ullah Khan Babar earned his first solo on 8th September 1953. Babar established himself as a daring pilot from the very start of his flying career.

Brig. Mahmud remembers an interesting incident of those days;

"Babar was sent one day to Sialkot to develop a strip, later when rest of the flight reached there they found the strip to be small. Any how after landing with great difficulty when asked about the length, he replied that the strip had another 200 yards of length available but it has a 90 degrees turn".

Captain Babar left a deep mark of his boldness and courage wherever he went.

He later commanded the first Rotary Wing Squadron (3 Squadron).

He earned his first Sitara-i-Jur'at as an OH-13 pilot in Chhamb area during 1965 War when he rounded fifty-five (55) Indian soldiers as Prisoners Of War and making them march for miles. Incidentally during the entire episode Lieutenant Colonel Babar was not even carrying his personal weapon.

He is also remembered for his assertiveness and dedication with which he led the aviation contingent in East Pakistan during Cyclone Relief Operation of 1969-70. He earned his second Sitara-i-Jur 'at during 1971 War while leading the attack of 111 Infantry Brigade.
He rose to the rank of Major General. He later entered politics and served as Governor of NWFP, he has also been a Federal Minister for Interior.

 

[fatman17]

Inquiry finds fault with Mi-17 repair journey

By Fasihur Rehman Khan

August 20, 2016

ISLAMABAD: A preliminary Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) inquiry into the recent Punjab government Mi-17 helicopter crash in Afghanistan en route Russia points out several flaws in planning and execution of the repair and maintenance journey that stretched hundreds of miles, contents of the report available to The News reveal.

“An elaborate electronic system for checking metal fatigue (a weakness that develops in metal structures that are used repeatedly) for helicopters must be present within the maintenance circles,” the report says, stating clearly that how some critical safety tools are overlooked in Pakistan. “It is possible that the prime minister could have used this helicopter since it was engaged in VVIP duties,” the report notes with concern.

The inquiry points out that instead of ferrying the helicopter (flying) it should have been airlifted through cargo plane, and air space of Afghanistan should have been avoided. Even at the time of first delivery of these helicopters in 1996, the airspace of Afghanistan was avoided, and helicopters flew through Iran, the report states.

The report notes that since the first delivery of these Mi-17 helicopters from Russia in 1996, ferry flights (flying a helicopter to or from one base to another for repair, maintenance) were “discontinued as these were found too cumbersome logistically, uneconomical and time consuming.”

The Punjab government helicopter Mi-17 on its way to Russia for maintenance had crash landed in Afghanistan on August 4. All the seven crew members, including one Russian engineer, were taken hostage by Afghan Taliban of Logar province. After hectic efforts by Pakistan’s civil and military officials the crew members returned to Pakistan on August 12.

“The only time when helicopters were ferried from Russia was in 1996. Once the first batch was inducted, yours truly (reporting officer) was amongst the crew of first ferry in August 1996. Even at that time when Afghanistan was a friendly country, we avoided overflying. Instead flew through Iran”. “Since then ferry flights were discontinued as these were found too cumbersome logistically, uneconomical and time consuming. Instead all later deliveries were either on an -12 4s (4×helicopters) or IL-76 (2×helicopters).

“Most of the Army helicopters are overhauled at 503 aviation workshop (in Pakistan). In the past when the facility was not fully ready or if due to capacity constraints, helicopters were airlifted on cargo aircrafts,” the report notes.

“The loss of rudder control (helicopter flight controls) makes it seem like a fault pertaining to the tail rotor. It could have experienced metal fatigue aggravated by the high wind; one cannot say with any certainty without the inquiry by aviation experts being complete,” the report states further.

MI-17 helicopters, civil and military, were first introduced in 1981 by former Soviet Union (now Russia). Around 60 countries of the world including Pakistan use this air machine.

Since their first time inclusion in Pakistan’s civil and military air fleet in 1996, there have been eight crashes in total, the largest crash involved civilian passengers. Seven people including ambassadors of Norway and Philippines died in Naltar Valley Gilgit Baltistan in 2015.

 

[SQ8]

They tried to save on costs because the money was to be used for VIP car purchases maybe?

 

[nomi007]

PAA try to get some old ch-46 helos from usa
good for rescue and relief operations

 

[Signalian]

PAA try to get some old ch-46 helos from usa
good for rescue and relief operations

 

[Imran Khan]

PAA try to get some old ch-46 helos from usa
good for rescue and relief operations

why we look for old scrap always sir ?

 

[fjavaid]

Probably the Climber was hooked to heli sling as well as retainer/rescue rope still attached the mountain, the later either snapped or the screw came out of rock to make the heli feel light/un restrained.




Can somebody shed some light on this about Heli becoming light again once it could not hv lift anymore ?

[/QUOTE]

Hmmm ....thnks
...yeah could be the case