Pakistan: Armed attack targeting vehicles of Chinese company underway in Gwadar, Balochistan, Aug. 13

[hussain0216]

So, what you are saying is that we need Balochistan land and resources (for the development of Pakistan), Baloch people living there can go to hell !! ... That exactly is what the Baloch nationalists say that Pakistan is interested in land and resources and not in the people living there.. They don't seem to be wrong about it

No

We need our OWN LAND and resources

The state in Islam has rights of its own and a duty as well

Developing that land and resources is both a duty and a right

Millions of people benefit from that development,, of criminals and terrorists want to stop it and keep the people backwards then it's a duty to defend the people and the country


Look at the afghans,, endless fassad from them has left them destitute.

 

[hatehs]

Kashmir has not had an insurgency for as long as Balochistan

Abey, jahil poojari:

• The Kashmiri insurgency started in 1947
• In comparison, the first Baloch uprising took place after the imposition of the One Unit system, was restricted to a single tribe and was quickly defeated (the "rebellion" by the brother of the Khan of Kalat doesn't count since he had virtually no support from anyone in Balochistan, not even his own brother). This was followed by a second uprising in 1973, which was restricted to two tribes and also crushed. Now we're in the third stage. Three different uprisings which you jahil Whatsapp-educated poojaris have decided have been going on continuously.
• Even if the insurgency in Balochistan lasted longer, how does that disprove your earlier statement?

 

[M. Sarmad]

It's virtue signalling done by cucks, who are disillusioned by wanting to maintain some idea of superior morality which is only an expression of their own weakness or inability, the weak hide their weakness under "principled" moral positions, meanwhile the strong today lament over this exact past of theirs, and others look up to them.

Every powerful nation has a brutal history. Because you can never reach a certain status without some necessary levels of brutality.

It's like Pakis who simp for all these past empires of Muslim rulers and Ottomans and what not, while drowning in their own inferiority complex because they didn't achieve anything and instead larp about mortality

Learn something from Turkey's attitude towards Kurds, that's how attitude to any separatist group should be. Anything else is just an expression of your weakness, whether you admit this or not.

If it's truly a moral stance, then you're just too naive for your own good

You are a clueless ignorant fellow...

Your jingoistic advocacy for brutal oppression of minorities shows your own insecurities and defeatist mindset...

 

[hussain0216]

Balochistan has seen many insurgencies right since 1948. No Pakistani regime has been able to crush the freedom fighters despite employing the most brutal forms of repression.


Kashmir has not had an insurgency for as long as Balochistan and for the most part it has been crushed after the Pak fauj decided it was in Pakistan's best interests to abandon the mujahideen in Kashmir.

There is a insurgency right across India

The basis of partition has been proven right

Indians absolutely HATE each other, they celebrate gang rape, murder and the destruction of homes. Their is lynchings for food, hostile marches into each others territory
Indians currently are economically boycotting each other and moving into their own areas for safety

Do you think Kashmiri see what's happening to Indian Muslims homes
Or when a Hindu extremist policeman kills Indian Muslims on trains
Or the support for gang rape in the civil war in NE India they hate hindus less???

That mass communal hatred amongst indians is more intense then ever due to social media



Pakistan has ethnocentrism but their is no mass hatred or desire to gang rape, economically boycott or mass slaughter each other


Pakistan will emerge from this, India is descending into a untenable situation

 

[AA_]

Since Pak army brass (and maybe the institution as a whole!) is not interested in solving the menace of terrorism once and for all, instead busy in we-know-what-that-is, there's going to be high profile assassinations of top religious figures (think MTJ, engineer Mirza, put some important figures of the Ahle Tashee), bombing of some highly revered mazaraat (think of Data darbar, Bari Imam, Sehwan sharif etc), and a high stakes political assassination, in the next 5-6 months. There will be a time that the foot soldiers would be begging their brass to stop fcuking around and focus on their job.

It's a prophecy, let's see if it happens. But strangely things seem to be going that way.

A few years ago I couldn't fathom we would be back to such days as today.

Wtf are you talking about? You want to throw hands with the Shias, again? All that’s gotten you retards is destroyed Sunni nations or under the thumbs of dictatorship cowards and Western forces. Remember one thing - Shias stick together and defend their own.

 

[hussain0216]

You are a clueless ignorant fellow...

Your jingoistic advocacy for brutal oppression of minorities shows your own insecurities and defeatist mindset...

You can't bow and bend to terrorists or the enemies of Pakistan

 

[TheSolution]

You are a clueless ignorant fellow...

Your advocacy for brutal oppression of minorities shows your own insecurities and defeatist mindset...

My advocacy for brutal oppression of separatists shows my "defeatist" mindset, while your advocacy of surrender shows how much a morally superior poodle you are, well done, I hope you get a pat on your back for being a good boy

Pakis will larp on historical empires of Turks, Afghans, Arabs, Greeks and have an inferiority complex towards it, but when it comes to defending their own territories they hide their weakness under morality lmao

 

[S.Y.A]

Molvi diesel or molvi qawi..

Take a pick

there are many many people who have studied at darul uloom karachi, jamia tur rasheed, jamia ashrafia etc that are top notch scholars. there are idiots everywhere, even among uni grads (look at most of our politicians).

 

[Paji]

This definitely is not true. Pakistan has never employed "most brutal forms of repression" in Balochistan. Such attempts have been halfhearted at best with no political consensus to back up military action, and such efforts are nowhere near what India does in Occupied Kashmir or even Red Corridor (or China does in Xinjiang for that matter).

You seem to be ignorant about Pakistani history. Tikka Khan might have been famous as the Butcher of Bengal but he learnt his craft in Balochistan. How many family members of Kashmiri separatist leaders have been hanged in India?

 

[Zarvan]

Will anyone tell latest about the attack?

 

[Paji]

Abey, jahil poojari:

• The Kashmiri insurgency started in 1947
• In comparison, the first Baloch uprising took place after the imposition of the One Unit system, was restricted to a single tribe and was quickly defeated (the "rebellion" by the brother of the Khan of Kalat doesn't count since he had virtually no support from anyone in Balochistan, not even his own brother). This was followed by a second uprising in 1973, which was restricted to two tribes and also crushed. Now we're in the third stage. Three different uprisings which you jahil Whatsapp-educated poojaris have decided have been going on continuously.
• Even if the insurgency in Balochistan lasted longer, how does that disprove your earlier statement?

Uncouth ignoramus ignored.

There is a insurgency right across India

The basis of partition has been proven right

Indians absolutely HATE each other, they celebrate gang rape, murder and the destruction of homes. Their is lynchings for food, hostile marches into each others territory
Indians currently are economically boycotting each other and moving into their own areas for safety

Do you think Kashmiri see what's happening to Indian Muslims homes
Or when a Hindu extremist policeman kills Indian Muslims on trains
Or the support for gang rape in the civil war in NE India they hate hindus less???

That mass communal hatred amongst indians is more intense then ever due to social media



Pakistan has ethnocentrism but their is no mass hatred or desire to gang rape, economically boycott or mass slaughter each other


Pakistan will emerge from this, India is descending into a untenable situation

You seem to be genuinely ignorant so I will humour you a bit. There is no insurgency right across India. Kashmir has a few militants but for the most part the insurgency has been crushed and is nowhere at the same level as in the 90s.

There are some isolated incidents of religious violence and cases of excess by people in uniform but those are punished. There is neither widespread support against the state nor any repression from people with power.

 

[S.Y.A]

bit confused about what kind of development we have seen as of now?
heck forget about Balochistan since everyone thinks all the resources from other provinces are spent on Punjab but can someone enlighten me where is that spent besides Building DHA societies and Army officers getting property abroad?

thats because they dont allow any to take place. people in my family are in the construction sector, went to gwadar when cpec was being launched. guess what happened? some wadera or sardar shows up and forces you to employ a 100 of his men, otherwise your men are killed or kidnapped, or you are just not allowed to work. those 100 men have no skill, and do not work. and you cannot make them work, because they have guns. you cannot lay them off, because they have guns and sardar's backing. you have to feed them, and pay for the ones who actually work.

same with PTCL. a sardar has to be paid for the site to be kept up and running. otherwise you cannot work.

enough with this BS victim mentality. enough with blaming others for own failures. how many sardars have stood up and established schools, colleges, unis and hospitals? even private ones? is there any Edhi in balochistan? or any dr abdul bari khan? or dr adeeb rizvi? or imran khan? none.

do you know who was in power when BUITEMS, the top university of balochistan, was established? Musharraf. a dictator. a non-Baloch. Do you know where a lot of earlier gen of Baloch engineers, employed by the govt or private sector, have studied from? UET, Dawood, NED etc. none of them are in balochistan (Dawood used to be private). and then they say that pakistan doesnt give us anything.

 

[M. Sarmad]

You seem to be ignorant about Pakistani history. Tikka Khan might have been famous as the Butcher of Bengal but he learnt his craft in Balochistan. How many family members of Kashmiri separatist leaders have been hanged in India?

One has to be highly delusional (or an Indian in other words) to even compare atrocities carried out in Occupied Kashmir by the Indian Army to what Pak Army has done in Balochistan.

 

[S.Y.A]

So, what you are saying is that we need Balochistan land and resources (for the development of Pakistan), Baloch people living there can go to hell !! ... That exactly is what the Baloch nationalists say that Pakistan is interested in land and resources and not in the people living there.. They don't seem to be wrong about it

its a part of the country, and yes, people will be interested in its resources. thats a very reductive line of thinking you have got there. thats how countries, cities, towns and regions are developed. when a company wants resources, it sets up shop in the region that resource is local to. that creates jobs, that creates business opportunities. shops, hotels, residential areas spring up around the factory.

but, yes, if the idiots dont want that to happen then no one should force them to develop. but thats not the point. the point is that the idiots should stop whining and b*tching about no development and jobs. whats more, the quota system should and must be abolished (for jobs and unis), so no more free handouts for communities that dont want to develop themselves.

 

[Paji]

One has to be highly delusional (or an Indian in other words) to even compare atrocities carried out in Occupied Kashmir by the Indian Army to what Pak Army has done in Balochistan.

It is easier to use rhetoric and hyperbole than to discuss facts. Families of insurgent leaders were systematically eliminated in Balochistan. Nothing comparable happened in Kashmir.