Pakistan and Saudi Arabia-UAE dynamics

[RoadRunner401]

Yes I don't want us to beg...atleast take a decision like sovereign country ...
Ban there fundings and stop providing mercenary services to them.
..who is stopping us ? I mean all I can see as Pakistan is just whinning and getting more issues for it...like recent visa ban in uae and yes long ban from kuwait while indians are allowed ...all I am saying we are weak and just love to talk that bring more miseries ...100 piyaz and 100 joty is quite fit example here ...you are stating things as if pakistan is forced to do any of things ....
Its up to UAe and KSA to invest any where in world ...I mean who would like to invest in a country with continuos history of political turmoil and fighting wars for others ....
Why not we are asking to UAE not to provide safe heaves to money launderers or baloch terrorist ....
We just shout on tv and social media ...and then run to ask for apology ...literally no self respect

I just want one simple thing. Continue on reforms at any cost. Get out of running business doesn't matter how big and small just let the private sector handle it..


As far as who is stopping us? Special interest that only care for their personal gains that's who.

 

[Titanium100]

Boots on the ground dear, boots on the ground if you love the Holy Land so much. A poor country like Pakistan can move civilians out of North Waziristan and then kill the insurgency with boots on the ground, why cant SA & UAE with all the money in the world do that? Why do they have to engage in indiscriminate bombing from 30k feet?

They can eliminate them quite comfortable there is so much politics and UN lobbies involved which limits how far you can go but without a doubt they can eliminate them completely but it is a civil war between Houthis vs Hadi+Southern separatists. Egypt refused to partake and UAE is against it.. It is pretty much Civil war Hadi+ Southern Separatists with Saudi Air support can win the war and will win it since they have endless supply line

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Boots on the ground dear, boots on the ground if you love the Holy Land so much. A poor country like Pakistan can move civilians out of North Waziristan and then kill the insurgency with boots on the ground, why cant SA & UAE with all the money in the world do that? Why do they have to engage in indiscriminate bombing from 30k feet?

They TRUELY expect others to do it for them. Like the nazis in the 1930s/40s, the Saudis believe that they are a master race that can make the "lesser" races their slaves and do their bidding.

 

[m52k85]

...UN lobbies involved which limits how far you can go..

Sorry that is a feeble excuse.

They TRUELY expect others to do it for them. Like the nazis in the 1930s/40s, the Saudis believe that they are a master race that can make the "lesser" races their slaves and do their bidding.

Bhai please keep your racial slurs out of this, most Saudis are wonderful people. Do not blame the people for the decision of unelected people. People who are not even fully accepted in their own family.

I implore you again, stop your racial tirades, that's arrogance.

 

[Titanium100]

They TRUELY expect others to do it for them. Like the nazis in the 1930s/40s, the Saudis believe that they are a master race that can make the "lesser" races their slaves and do their bidding.

You are truly garbage poster

Sorry that is a feeble excuse.

Bhai please keep your racial slurs out of this, most Saudis are wonderful people. Do not blame the people for the decision of unelected people. People who are not even fully accepted in their own family.

I implore you again, stop your racial tirades, that's arrogance.

They are going nowhere just watch closely. The Hadi government will take Sanaa in few years time just watch closely I know this things

 

[RoadRunner401]

lol. You do know that these jahiil houthies are close to the holy land which makes their existence criminal there can't be insurgency in such a close area to the Kaaba which makes the houthis dumb because they have eliminated themselves by undertaking this conflict. The Saudis are merciful I would have completely wiped them out

OH that make much more sense, Poor Muslims of Yemen are being slaughtered becasue their country is close to Kabbah,

Hadees narrated by Hazarart @Titanium100 says Hazarat M.B.S said to kill all Muslims residing or coming near Kabbah.

What about Al-Aqsa Mosque ?

 

[MastanKhan]

What the UAE and Saudi have done to the children of Yemen is worse than what India has done to the children of Kashmir.
The lesson for me is religous hatred is lesser of an evil than one based on arrogance. I thank Allah that we are not part of that war in Yemen regardless of the manner in which we excused ourselves from it. Perhaps we could have said 'no' in a more diplomatic way, but still Alhamdulillah. May Allah take this action of ours and forgive us as a nation for supporting the current Afghan war just because we were threatened to be bombed back to the stone age.

Dedicated to @MastanKhan sb.

Hi,

The Yemenis going against the state should have know better to follow iranian proxy---.

There is no glory without war---there are no fortunes to be made without war----.

Islam would have been nowhere without war---.

I donot know who is teaching you youngmen these things---. Men and wars are eternal---. If Allah did not want wars amongst men---The Lord would have Willed so.

 

[Falcon29]

These Saudis and UAE ‘S have lost their mind just to save their chairs. They are bringing the Jews and Hindus ( those are two groups that hates Muslims to death) to the holy land . Well they have their plans and Allah has his plans . And he is the provider, Not GCC, not Iran neither USA. Woe to those who cries oh millions are working . Before gulf counties were rich Pakistanis were eating grass ? Have some faith in Allah.

Tell also the Shia Persian nationalists to fear God as well, like OP who want to influence Pakistani public opinion against two Gulf nations to justify Iranian policies against them. Allah has nothing to do with these Persian nationalists. Arab regimes come and go and very short lived, this phase is going to be short lived and going to change very quickly. God simply cares about people who follow Islam and the Sunnah and he places on them tribulations to get them to return to the faith. As for Persian nationalists, these are anti-Islam radicals who working on non-Islamic agenda that isn't going to change unless Muslims stop them.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Tell also the Shia Persian nationalists to fear God as well, like OP who want to influence Pakistani public opinion against two Gulf nations to justify Iranian policies against them. Allah has nothing to do with these Persian nationalists. Arab regimes come and go and very short lived, this phase is going to be short lived and going to change very quickly. God simply cares about people who follow Islam and the Sunnah and he places on them tribulations to get them to return to the faith. As for Persian nationalists, these are anti-Islam radicals who working on non-Islamic agenda that isn't going to change unless Muslims stop them.

Bro, those of us who are following Islam or want to follow Islam are presently suffering BIG TIME. It is EXTREMELY painful and feels like a losing battle. I often despair.........

 

[Falcon29]

Bro, those of us who are following Islam or want to follow Islam are presently suffering BIG TIME. It is EXTREMELY painful and feels like a losing battle. I often despair.........

It's an extremely bad time for sincere Muslims, from social and political perspective, and the only way to understand this era is by studying what Allah and his Prophet informed us of. The Prophet told us of this time and how the fitnah(all kinds, social and political) will be so bad that you're better off staying out of it all and just minding yourself until God has deemed it is time to lift this tribulation and enable sincere Muslims to assume influence. Also understand this life is intended for God to filter out all the bad humans that follow their selfish desires and live as if they don't need God. So think of this time as a phase, it's been a long phase but in the meantime we make prayers to God to give us patience and distract ourselves with other matters and understand God is real and some humans are corrupt. We don't give in to their corruption to our best ability but we aren't perfect either. During this phase we should focus on achieving our personal goals and asking God for patience and steadfastness. While also enjoying what is halal and/or permitted for us.

God allows us to enjoy ourselves to a moderate extent and he wants us to do good and worship him. Eventually he gonna call on us and we're gonna heed that call to obey him and he will give us the faith/patience for that.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It's an extremely bad time for sincere Muslims, from social and political perspective, and the only way to understand this era is by studying what Allah and his Prophet informed us of. The Prophet told us of this time and how the fitnah(all kinds, social and political) will be so bad that you're better off staying out of it all and just minding yourself until God has deemed it is time to lift this tribulation and enable sincere Muslims to assume influence. Also understand this life is intended for God to filter out all the bad humans that follow their selfish desires and live as if they don't need God. So think of this time as a phase, it's been a long phase but in the meantime we make prayers to God to give us patience and distract ourselves with other matters and understand God is real and some humans are corrupt. We don't give in to their corruption to our best ability but we aren't perfect either. During this phase we should focus on achieving our personal goals and asking God for patience and steadfastness. While also enjoying what is halal and/or permitted for us.

God allows us to enjoy ourselves to a moderate extent and he wants us to do good and worship him. Eventually he gonna call on us and we're gonna heed that call to obey him and he will give us the faith/patience for that.

Thanks bro. Your words have been very comforting and have removed a lot of negativity I have been feeling recently.

 

[Falcon29]

Thanks bro. Your words have been very comforting and have removed a lot of negativity I have been feeling recently.

No problem bro, I used to despair too and still do and what comforts me is trying to change my perspective and understanding it's more a phase and it's expected for humans to be corrupt by nature since the only thing removing such corruption is seeking refuge in God. Reading the ahadeeth of the Prophet on this time is very comforting too.

For politics we know it's a major fitnah that we are better off withdrawing from, but from social angle, the cultural fitnah is a lot harder for Muslims since there is too much corruption around us and your risk isolation or other things if you try protecting yourselves for them. And the best thing that helps is making dua, every day, in every salah, I ask Allah to give my patience and protect me from my own evil, evil of all shayateen, evil of what he created, to give me patience and show me the right path and keep me on it. Also don't be shy to ask Allah to give you stronger resolve, which I do all the time. He listens and the Prophet said he is shy not to respond to prayers/requests of his creation.

In the meantime we have our Lord and each other by the will of God to always discuss on the forum or anywhere else and help each other that anytime inshallah.

 

[BATMAN]

I think, like YouTube pays so much money per hit when you uploads videos @El Sidd and @BATMAN get the same deal from Their Arab over Lords For bringing Iran into every conversation.



My bad, I was wrong its all Wahhabi get the same deal every time Iran, Iran, Iran what's that about 40 cents for you!!!

I am pretty sure you will not to able to read or see what I am about to write, but IRAN, TURKEY HAVE ALWAYS SPOKEN IN FAVOUR OF PAKISTAN WHEN IT CAME TO KASHMIR

all Arab haters like you on pdf and beyond have one common trait... you all get militia training in Iran and than they sent you on mission to kill babies to take revenge of some misplaced history which is totally based on lies.
All of you are taught one lesson, blame those who point out Iranian steeling from Pakistan and smuggling of $.
Iranian puppies in Pakistan are making billions with smuggling, because all bureaucracy and interior ministry now bow to you.