Agree 100%. Russia and China think India will take a hostile position towards the West/U.S just for their own sake. That wont obviously happen, if they think that way,i must say they are dreaming.
We dont have to make India be our dog against China, since India is already more hostile to/wary of China than even we in the west/U.S. lool Have you even ever been to India?? go on a visit there and see how their media/political establishment talks about China.lool Anything the Chinese do in South Asia or even Asia is a threat to them.How many times have you seen India protesting/being hostile towards U.S/U.K presence in Indian ocean/Diego Garcia patrols etc??lol they don't because they don't see us as a threat at all, their main threat is China..
Destination Beijing: India to Test 'China-Killer' Nuke Missile | The National Interest Blog
India's New Defense Chief Sees Chinese Military Threat - NYTimes.com
India to Test “China Killer” Agni-V ICBM | The Diplomat
How Asians View Each Other | Pew Research Center
Navy Alert to Chinese Nuclear Submarine Threat in Indian Ocean
Two-front war remote, but threat from China real - The Times of India
How India is preparing to counter the China threat - Firstpost
US-India defence deal 'to counter China' - Telegraph
U.S., India join forces to counter Beijing aggression in South China Sea - Washington Times
Navy base on the line as Mauritius tries to pit U.S., U.K. in island's sovereignty bid - Washington Times
You can keep dreaming/wishing of a non western bloc taking on the west though, its not illegal yet.
India did not run away from QSD, Australia did
In a way, India was much more happy that Australia backed out, but the doors was still open to sign the deals with Japan and USA without Australia.
It doesnt matter who could tackle the USSR or whether we have the strength to tackle it. However it has met with Stalin, and it deserved that. I always cannot help being suspicious why a corner rat from a declining empire, which had become the penis of Europe that want to be hard but have to be soft or want to eject but always have to pee, always has the confidence of mocking others. Your country is just at the age of quinquagenarian, although it is not just your time now, I think it is not too long for your country to meet your damn god. So you just have the fluke to mock others. But you have lost the strength to pry the world forever, so that you only can pigback the US to piss off others even your European peers. Your country will continue to stay your corner from now to its time.Then their diplomacy must be quite bad then, since they haven't been able to use it to full effect and avoid invasions and seizure of their lands by foreign/western powers of which Moscow is the main one, having seize huge swaths of their land the size of Europe to this day.
Well the god player may have lost a lot, but not everything. If it had lost everything, then China wouldn't be depending on it at all on anything today.In fact if it had lost everything as you said, China wouldn't need Russian support/help to balance/tackle the west/U.S.As i said dont underestimate the old bear, they are still militarily/strategically more powerful than China even today.
Moreover they lost their cloths/influence mainly because of we in the U.S/west. Not because of any Asian country, if anything no Asian country could tackle the U.S.S.R/SOVIETS.
I dont think even the most ultra nationalistic Chinese member on here like @Beidou2020 believes you can ever assimilate Russia.If so you would have done it long ago. In fact its been the opposite throughout History. i.e Russia bullying/invading/seizing land from China. Remember why Mongolia(one of the worlds largest country) is independent today?
Indian media is not a reflection of Indian administration unlike in China where media is state controlled. Indian media will always exaggerate things and even most Indians and Chinese on forum are not a good representation of Chinese and Indians. I don't know about Chinese but Indians are quite positive towards China.We dont have to make India be our dog against China, since India is already more hostile to/wary of China than even we in the west/U.S. lool Have you even ever been to India?? go on a visit there and see how their media/political establishment talks about China.lool Anything the Chinese do in South Asia or even Asia is a threat to them.
Destination Beijing: India to Test 'China-Killer' Nuke Missile | The National Interest Blog
India's New Defense Chief Sees Chinese Military Threat - NYTimes.com
India to Test “China Killer” Agni-V ICBM | The Diplomat
How Asians View Each Other | Pew Research Center
Navy Alert to Chinese Nuclear Submarine Threat in Indian Ocean
Two-front war remote, but threat from China real - The Times of India
How India is preparing to counter the China threat - Firstpost
US-India defence deal 'to counter China' - Telegraph
U.S., India join forces to counter Beijing aggression in South China Sea - Washington Times
Navy base on the line as Mauritius tries to pit U.S., U.K. in island's sovereignty bid - Washington Times
You can keep dreaming/wishing of a non western bloc taking on the west though, its not illegal yet.
Isn't it going to help in the organization's goal of promoting a multi polar world order?
Isn't it going to help in the organization's goal of promoting a multi polar world order?
Well you are absolutely right. We in the west have always been more expeditionary than any other region/countries out there. Thing is we(as great powers) always think globally, not regionally/locally like most Asian countries do. This is what gives/gave us advantage in dealing with other countries/powers. as we visited/settled in many countries and learned from them(in case they had something we didn't).
However, i will summarize this for two main reasons: Competition and culture
There were at least 6 European states that were capable of mounting trans-oceanic expeditions for some or all of this period in history i.e Portugal, Spain, Netherlands,France, Italy(to a lesser extent) and of course our great Britain. They were all aggressive states often at war and in need of resources. for exampe Columbus shopped his 'sail west to China' plan all over Europe before he got backing from Ferdinand and Isabella (single best VC pay-off EVER). So where the Emperor could shut down expeditions, there was no-one in Europe who could have done that, and plenty of states willing to fund expeditions in search of land and trade.
Further, these societies were all much more warlike than China/Japan/Asian powers. There was a culture of going out and conquering each other and were always plenty of adventurers willing to go off in search of glory and loot (Cortes, Pizarro, Clive) without much interest in what the government wanted. (OUR British 'Empire' in particular had a tendency to grow against the wishes of anyone in London.) Chinese/Asian wars were about control of China/Asia itself, and tended to be much rarer - Europeans had been at war more or less continuously for a thousand years. Indeed a large part of Spanish expansion in the Americas is about the redirection of energies from the recently completed Reconquista. @Carlosa .
Finally, China/Asian powers (generalising hugely) tended to see the world as China/Asia, plus a few minor subsidiary peoples (Vietnam, Korea, Japan,etc) around the edges that weren't worth bothering with. So maybe this explains why were sailed round/colonized the globe, while Asian countries/powers mainly limited themselves regionally.
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PLAN.
, so now the Japanese indoorsmen only can boast how brave the Japanese soldiers were in killing innocent people and how large their IJN fleets that has sunk forever were. Now and future it will take tens-hundreds of years for Japanese to receive the fact that they just lies in corner of Asia. I am just thinking how long it would take that you forgot your superiority, if you changed inevitablely from a developed country to a developing country.
That's his view.. In my opinion and reality .. Ever country looks out for its own interests.... Pak is blamed by the same U.S. of supporting taliban ? Yet they offer assistance... Because we have common interests... Pak Chiba relations again common mutual interest.
