Pakistan and China bust human trafficking ring disguised as marriage proposals

[Wa Muhammada]

The moment China shifts from "pro-Pakistan" to "neutral" the whole dynamics of the sub-continent change. You are playing a completely different ballgame. You can see how the Ummah will help you against India then.

Unlike you communist atheists we actually have belief and our lord and his final Prophet (pbuh) have promised us that Islam will be dominant over the whole world. The time is near and
ان شاء الله China will be under the banner of Islam too

 

[Lincoln]

It's not just PDF. Your entire media has so-called Chinese criminals plastered all over the country! What were they accused of? There have been allegations of "forced prostitution" and "organ harvesting" in the media too. Are the detained Chinese nationals connected with this? Do we have any witnesses who can attest to "forced prostitution" and "organ harvesting"? The Pakistanis don't want rational answers: you want blood

If the Chinese leadership takes a look at the mess that your country has created and thinks "wow, these guys are really emotional and irrational", a responsible commander is going to think "hmm... do we really want these hot-heads in charge of nuclear weapons?"

1. You people have no control over our nuclear weapons.

2. Journalism is free in Pakistan unlike in China. Deal with it. This ain't a commie country.

3. This ain't your personal court hearing either. Evidence has already been established. If Federal Investigation Agency has said they have arrested them in connection with it, then it is true.

 

[Zibago]

Can see pakistanis angry but even they know they can't do shit .

Pakistan cannot piss off chinese, not even for these little girls.

Unfortunately this is the situation before chinese migration of cpec has started.

They are already under arrest and local authorities will punish them

Stop using these incidents for political scoring . We are hating crimes and illegal activities of these criminals and their nationality is irrelevant. We would have despise them equally if they were Pakistani involving in such activities. Second thing which you should realize is that you cannot blame all Chinese for action of few criminals . I am sure sensible chinses will not defend these crimes against innocent women because it just give bad name to China

Agree Pakistanis can seperate between criminals and normal citizens
As for those overly sensitive posters from China let time decide what the gangs have done in name of fake marriages

Nobody denies we don't have problems in our own society, at least I don't recall denying this. In fact I hope Pakistanis learn their lesson from this experience that they should stop kissing up to complete foreigners and love and respect their own, start putting fellow Pakistanis before foreigners, start respecting each others property, start cleaning their city streets, start investing in jobs within Pakistan for Pakistani workers and unemployed, etc...

But my contention with Chinese is that, as complete foreigners in anothers (their ally) country, why would they exploit the impoverished? It doesn't matyer if there are already existing social problems within Pakistan, what right do these people have to come here and do this just because they see someone else' home in disorder (ostensibly that of their "ally") doesn't give mean its a greenlight to play frauds and tricks on the common people who are already victims of injustice. Only people with criminal mentality can do such things.

When some Pakistanis have done similar things in Western countries believe me I have called them out on it and I have been labeled names like "White wannabe" etc from other Pakistanis, but what is wrong is wrong. If you would not want someone doing these things to your own mother, sister, daughter or wife why would you be so indifferent to the pain of others?

If you value this partnership with the Pakistani people and consider yourself a genuine benefactor of the Pakistani nation then you should be at the forefront in demanding these criminals should be held to account.

And I would also suggest that you should be more mature in how you are reacting to anonymous agent provocateur on this forum. It's an anonymous website and some countries (including yours) actually employ troll armies (literally) to cause dissent and spread misinformation online.

@Taimur Khurram @Psychic @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @OsmanAli98 @LeGenD

The fia investigation is in early stages

 

[RealNapster]

The Zionists have gained control of your media, genius.

Or maybe there is an actual issue on the ground. No ? The Pakistani journalist who break the story once took Gun with himself to Provincial Assembly (to expose the bad security), smuggled Weapons and illegal bike from one Part of country to other on train (to expose corruption in railways department), he is not your random CPC spokesperson journalist... give the journalist some credit that he exposed the rotten eggs.

 

[Zibago]

For once, would you believe that some Chinese “can” turnout bad ? Or all of them are angels ?? Is the word “crime” something alien to Chinese ? Don’t they do crimes in there own country and other countries ? Some 20000+ chinese working in Pakistan. No one said all of them are part of this crime and all should be deported. The problem is caused by some 20-40 Chinese who use the friendship sentiment between two countries for there crime and will eventually create negative sentiments for Chinese in Pakistani’s hearts. Aren’t you afraid of that ? Also, China can’t loose an ally, we are ally because China need us too just like we need China as an ally. You got issue wth 7-8+ of your neighbours. You can’t afford to Add Pakistan to that list. Be realistic when you pass such commentd

I think Pakistani laws need to change on cross national marriages for this to stop and aicton needs to be taken against fake pastors
Ots not only the chinese involved but also local scammers

 

[RealNapster]

There aint no free lunch. And the people who work or have worked with chinese on CPEC surely know it.

I did. First hand experience. You are right

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

That offensive poster does not represent all Chinese.

Let’s not get too emotional. China has offered to help our investigation and to help catching the criminals.

What more can we expect?

 

[Dungeness]

There is no harm in criticizing those who are under arrest for said crimes it doesnot affect the partnership of countries in any way


What people think of bilateral ties is still positive the outrage is against criminals

No harm, seriously? After reading countless insults, many racist in nature, to China and Chinese people in the last week, I am not sure about that. It's shocking to me that many Pakistani would not give the benefit of doubt to their "Iron Brother", and readily subscribe to the stories like "forced prostitution", "organ harvesting" without a thread of evidence. "Illegal match-making service" is what I have seen so far.

Many of you, including "Think Tank" level of PDF members, are just as emotional and gullible as your eastern neighbor, can be easily manipulated by media with a mission.

Pakistanis didnt woke just now, its actually the media that just did and unfortunately the people we least expected or called Iron Brothers were the ones involved, so naturally the hurt was more. And no i did not implied as such. Human trafficking did existed before and it will continue after this however when the law takes it up, it will do so without prejudice and without keeping the nationality of person in view. Simply put a criminal is a criminal irrespective of his/her flags.

Honestly, I doubt this is the case, love more so hate more? There is something more to it in this unusual outburst of emotion, judging by the nature of insults I have read. I suspect this "illegal match making services" would even become such a huge issue if it were run by Americans or Europeans.

This is a soul searching question, and no need to answer. I certainly hope I am wrong.

 

[fisher1]

Oh noes, the iron brother will not even admit their citizens are doing something wrong. Why does it sound so familiar? Oh yes

Just like Uighur Muslims aren't being tortured.

 

[Psychic]

As far as the media goes, I agree with you. Pakistani media needs to be brought under the writ of the state, but the state itself is corrupt to the core.

However, knowing that Chinese have done similar things in other countries (exploited local girls from impoverished families) I cannot dismiss these claims easily, although it is definitely preferable that a legitimate investigation is carried out by both Chinese and Pakistani authorities and not this media journalism that is only fanning flames without providing any evidence for these claims in a court of law.

We should definitely wait for more concrete evidence to surface. And those Pakistanis who enabled this should be first on the chopping block. Traitors are worse than open enemies.

This might give a hint. Chinese don't even see the girls before marrying, don't even know kalima yet claim to be Muslim convert, use forged documents, in case of Christian girls situation is similar, offer poor families money and tell them that girl's brother etc will be given Chinese visa and invited in business etc etc. It is a little more than buying a girl and that too without seeing her. The poor illiterate folk fall into their trap very easily.
Media sting op brought that to light.

The moment China shifts from "pro-Pakistan" to "neutral" the whole dynamics of the sub-continent change. You are playing a completely different ballgame. You can see how the Ummah will help you against India then.

So you were helping us so that you could unleash your criminals on us?
So that we stay silent when Chinese nationals commit moral crimes?

Is that already the 5th incident/gang in less than a Week? What is happening Pakistan?

More than 1000 cases. Mostly the victims are impoverished Christian families who are scammed.

This guy busted the racket and than Govt got involved and dozens of chinese and their local collaborators have been arrested till now.

God bless him

Pakistan cannot piss off chinese, not even for these little girls.

Bhool hay teri puttar.

Already arrested most of them. Busted ATM hackers as well. We don't make our allies our gods unlike you.

 

[Jackdaws]

This is bad. The Chinese are known to be extremely unreliable and treacherous. If things between India and Pak were not bad, they wouldn't have been able to exploit the fissures in our relationship the way they have. Use Chinese products on the lower end of the spectrum - they are cheap. But that's about it. If you are going to completely assimilate them into your economy and country, this is just the beginning. You might make some short term economic gains but over the long term this is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Nilgiri]

This is bad. The Chinese are known to be extremely unreliable and treacherous. If things between India and Pak were not bad, they wouldn't have been able to exploit the fissures in our relationship the way they have. Use Chinese products on the lower end of the spectrum - they are cheap. But that's about it. If you are going to completely assimilate them into your economy and country, this is just the beginning. You might make some short term economic gains but over the long term this is a recipe for disaster.

Why not let Pakistanis prove themselves on this issue before running your mouth about this gloom and doom and hopelessness.

Pakistanis from what I can tell are super angry about this and so let us see the concrete steps and comment after some time given. They will hold their leaders feet to the fire that justice is done.

China will also better understand red lines on what should and shouldnt be done for a very different culture country (if they sent such lowlifes on purpose without say due vetting).

There is no real absolutes in geopolitical relationships...just spectrum. No one is going to "completely assimilate" Pakistan...chinese are some kind of borg or something? It is a mutual cooperation and like any cooperation it will go through ups and downs of its own as time goes by.

 

[Pakistani captain]

This is getting worst. And if our both governments didn't take proper actions. Chinese will loose respect from Pakistani peoples heart. And it's a sad truth

 

[Nilgiri]

You do know I was being sarcastic? In other words using double entendre to make a point which was Uighurs are being mistreated and genocided.

sarcasm
/ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/
noun
noun: sarcasm; plural noun: sarcasms
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
"she didn't like the note of sarcasm in his voice"
synonyms: derision, mockery, ridicule, satire, irony, scorn, sneering, scoffing, gibing, taunting;

You always end up getting a lot of the small fry convinced even when you leave glaring hints heh.

 

[Jackdaws]

Why not let Pakistanis prove themselves on this issue before running your mouth about this gloom and doom and hopelessness.

Pakistanis from what I can tell are super angry about this and so let us see the concrete steps and comment after some time given. They will hold their leaders feet to the fire that justice is done.

China will also better understand red lines on what should and shouldnt be done for a very different culture country (if they sent such lowlifes on purpose without say due vetting).

There is no real absolutes in geopolitical relationships...just spectrum. No one is going to "completely assimilate" Pakistan...chinese are some kind of borg or something? It is a mutual cooperation and like any cooperation it will go through ups and downs of its own as time goes by.

Assimilate economically like British East Company.