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PAKISTAN AIMS TO DEVELOP A LIGHT ARMOURED VEHICLE

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As per the Pakistan Ministry of Defence Production’s (MoDP) 2015-2016 yearbook, the Military Vehicles Research and Development Establishment (MVRDE) will develop a light armoured vehicle by the name of “Light Armed Vehicle Assault” (LAVA). The MVRDE will also develop a medical recovery vehicle.

The MVRDE has developed a wide range of logistics and auxiliary support systems, such as armoured vehicles launched bridges, K-Loaders, mine dispensing systems, simulators (for the al-Khalid main battle tank) and auxiliary power units, among others.

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At Pakistan’s biennial defence exhibition IDEAS, which took place in Karachi in November, the private auto-manufacturer Metal Engineering Works partnered with its Spanish counterpart UROVESA to offer the VAMTAC ‘High Mobility Tactical Vehicle’ to Pakistan. The MoDP’s disclosure would support Quwa’s view in December of Pakistan seeking a light armoured utility vehicle.

Generally, light armoured utility vehicles are multi-purpose logistics platforms. With ballistic protection, they can function as armoured personnel carriers. They can also serve as platforms for very short-range air defence (VSHORAD) systems, short-range radars, command vehicles, and anti-armour and anti-infantry fire support vehicles. They can also be configured as general transport and medical evacuation vehicles. In fact, the MVRDE LAVA and medical recovery vehicle programs could be borne from the same platform.

Analogous platforms include the Paramount Group Marauder, Otokar Cobra/Cobra II, Nurol Makina NMS 4×4, BMC Vuran 4×4, UROVESA VAMTAC and NIMR Automotive AJBAN 450, among others.

The general layout of these 4×4 vehicles is that they have a gross weight of roughly 9,000 to 12,000 kg and are powered by 300 to 350 hp engines. They also feature independent suspension and central tire inflation systems. These vehicles have a range of 650-700 km and can ferry nine to ten persons internally.

Armament options generally include externally mounted remote-controlled weapon stations for 7.62 mm or 12.7 mm guns, 40 mm cannons, or pedestal-mounted man-portable air defence systems (MANPADS). One might also be able to configure a 4×4 into a self-propelled 120 mm mortar carrier (e.g. Elbit Systems SPEAR Mk2 mounted on the Plasan Sandcat 4×4).

The LAVA will not supplant Pakistan’s light utility vehicle (e.g. pick-up trucks) fleet, certainly not entirely. It would be a costlier platform to acquire and maintain. However, the LAVA would be a natural upgrade path from the Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) Mohafiz, a lighter vehicle which is deployed in Pakistan to fulfill many of the roles the LAVA would assume should it come to fruition.

Pakistan assigning the MRDVE with the task of developing the LAVA indicates that Pakistan will not pursue an overseas design off-the-shelf (with licensed manufacturing). However, there is nothing to preclude the MVRDE from securing overseas technical support to develop the LAVA. Pakistan has a strong relationship with the Turkish defence industry, the MVRDE may consider approaching Otokar, BMC and Nurol Makina for assistance. Alternate sources include Denel Group and Paramount Group in South Africa.

Besides supporting the MRDVE in developing a hull and sourcing an engine, overseas vendors may find an opportunity in providing solutions for the chassis. For example, the Irish company Timoney Technology has been marketing its expertise in suspension and other areas to nascent vehicle designers. In fact, the Serbian vendor YugoImport-SDPR chose the Timoney T700 modular driveline system for its new 4×4 MILOSH light armoured vehicle. At IDEX 2017 in Abu Dhabi in February, Timoney stated that its product range would reduce “timelines and development costs through the initial stages of new vehicle programmes by as much as 75% compared to traditional methods.”

By: QUWA.org
 
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The YugoImport-SDPR MILOSH 4x4 armoured vehicle. It is using Timoney Technology's T700 modular driveline system (developed in collaboration with Texelis). Photo credit: Timoney Technology


IDEX 2017: TIMONEY TECHNOLOGY OFFERING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE TO ARMOURED VEHICLE MAKERS


Ireland-based Timoney Technology is offering its expertise in developing and manufacturing under hull chassis solutions (e.g. suspension systems) to new and emergent armoured vehicle makers.

In its press release for the 2017 International Defence Exhibition and Conference (IDEX), Timoney cites its 50 years of experience in developing systems for off-load vehicles and claims that its work can reduce the “timelines and development costs through the initial stages of new vehicle programmes by as much as 75% compared to traditional methods.”

Timoney believes it can support established and emerging vendors alike. Through Timoney’s development work, incumbent suppliers will be able to cut costs and, in turn, offer more competitive products.

Emerging players, especially those with limited capacity to develop critical components (e.g. drivetrains), can utilize Timoney’s “wide range of automotive design, development and prototyping skills” to deploy technology that would require years (and considerable funding) to develop.

Transfer-of-technology and licensing of Timoney intellectual property is also available. Timoney’s says that its support can be leveraged to develop 4×4, 6×6 and 8×8 armoured vehicle solutions.

Serbian defence vendor YugoImport-SDPR selected Timoney’s T900 modular driveline system for its Lazar-3 8×8 armoured fighting vehicle and the T700 modular driveline system for the 4×4 MILOSH light armoured utility/transport vehicle.

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Considering the growing number of emerging armoured vehicle makers in South Asia, the Middle East, East Asia, Central Europe, North and Sub-Saharan Africa should provide Timoney Technology with ample opportunity to establish co-production partnerships.

It would be interesting to see if Pakistan capitalizes upon this opportunity. Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) and the Pakistani private sector have been tasked with supplying the Pakistan Army as well as Pakistan’s paramilitary outfits with affordable, but capable, armoured vehicles. Instead of spending close to US $1 million on an imported system, it would be prudent to initiate the domestic development of local systems.

Timoney Technology could aid in developing drivetrains, suspension and other under hull chassis work support, enabling Pakistan to accelerate its development with relatively limited risk and costs.

Besides Pakistan, Nigeria, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are also striving to locally manufacture armoured vehicles, both for domestic use and for export. The UAE, specifically NIMR Automotive, began manufacturing the N35-series of mine-resistant ambush-protected (MRAP) vehicles following a 2015 deal with Denel Vehicle Systems to bring RG-35 MRAP production to the UAE. Timoney could help NIMR further indigenize (via technology transfers and licensing) its supply chain for the N35’s components. Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan could do the same with their Paramount Group-origin vehicles.
 
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Ary haan yaar, i think it was presented in Ideas 2014, black 4x4 .. yaar naam zehen mai nai a raha ... Badaam (almonds) khane paren gay :(

New_UQAAB_Multi_Purpose_Armored_Vehicle_At_IDEAS_2014_Exhibition_Expo_Center_Karachi_jrmqt_Pak101(dot)com.jpg

This one ..................... found it , why not this one ? name is Uqaab
This is not a True armored car. They bought a civilian Toyota and replaced the panels with bullet resistant panels. If this hit an IED well you will meet your maker.
 
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This is not a True armored car. They bought a civilian Toyota and replaced the panels with bullet resistant panels. If this hit an IED well you will meet your maker.

not much of a different with cars mentioned in OP .. plus i would still take it as better than those 4x4 Toyota hilux
 
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Its based on a Tundra chasis and can withstand 10 KG IED..
The Marauder can withstand 8kg TNT beneath it but this can withstand 10kg IED? and it doesn't even have a 'V' shaped hull!

not much of a different with cars mentioned in OP .. plus i would still take it as better than those 4x4 Toyota hilux
its huge difference. This is suited for VIP movement however in a warzone it won't survive.
 
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its huge difference. This is suited for VIP movement however in a warzone it won't survive.

I think Turkey can help us in this particular problem .. MAX-PRO is freaking expensive , or maybe S.Africa they are best bet when it comes to Armored Vehicles ..
 
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Its based on a Tundra chasis and can withstand 10 KG IED..
Hi usually what happens with the tyres when the vehicle hits an IED I mean the rubbers usually still intact on the rims
Thx

I think Turkey can help us in this particular problem .. MAX-PRO is freaking expensive , or maybe S.Africa they are best bet when it comes to Armored Vehicles ..
And we can get them on better price from SAfrica
As they are quiet well versed in this technology
Thx

I think Turkey can help us in this particular problem .. MAX-PRO is freaking expensive , or maybe S.Africa they are best bet when it comes to Armored Vehicles ..
 
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Pakistan has tried many options but were rejected. Remember one which had a cats face. never inducted. There are many cheaper options available especially in eastern Europe, which can be tested in local conditions. Belarus, Ukraine, Serbia to name a few.
 
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why why why why can't we make the Paramount Group's Marauder in Pakistan? It's not like the company or South Africa are being problematic.
The vehicle mentioned in the year book is most likely to be a JV any way so the Marauder can be a possibility as well, theoretically speaking at least. Do not expect them to reinvent the wheel, they NEVER do (and that is actually great). This new vehicle is most likely going to be a licensed produced vehicle.

This is not a True armored car. They bought a civilian Toyota and replaced the panels with bullet resistant panels. If this hit an IED well you will meet your maker.
It is an armored car! :)
Not an MRAP however. We should not mix them both. MRAP and the light armored car like the one mentioned above are meant for different roles and cannot/should not be replaced with one another for pretty obvious reasons.

Ary haan yaar, i think it was presented in Ideas 2014, black 4x4 .. yaar naam zehen mai nai a raha ... Badaam (almonds) khane paren gay :(

New_UQAAB_Multi_Purpose_Armored_Vehicle_At_IDEAS_2014_Exhibition_Expo_Center_Karachi_jrmqt_Pak101(dot)com.jpg

This one ..................... found it , why not this one ? name is Uqaab
Money exchange guys, some banks and some other businesses involving large money transfers (cash) bought these and that was it. It would have served us pretty well as a light armored vehicle however for general commute in active areas AND most importantly, with police and rangers etc operating in cities. Arm this with the add on protection taking protection level to Stanag 4 and use that roof mounted turret for a machine gun, may be even a remote controlled weapon station at some point in future and you got yourself an excellent light armored car.
 
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