Pakistan again went to U.N

[narcon]

Complicated.
Some people say Pakistan OKs drone strikes, others say not.
I don't know what to believe..

Lol this nebulous Think Tank/Consultant got wasted within eye blinks ...

 

[shuntmaster]

India hits back with vengeance, strikes 37 Pak posts, 15 killed
The Indian security forces unleashed “massive retaliation” on Tuesday all along the 200-kilometre long International Border (IB) in Jammu against what they termed unprovoked firing by Pakistan Rangers that began on October 1.

Villagers show mortar shell marks on a wall after indiscriminate firing by Pakistan Rangers at a residential area. (PTI Photo)
The Indian attack targeted 37 Pakistani border posts, resulting in around 15 deaths, more than 30 injured and serious damage to outposts manned by the Pakistani Rangers, intelligence sources told HT.

India has lost six people and sustained 13 injuries in Pakistani firing in the Jammu sector, part of a five-fold increase in ceasefire violations on the IB this year to 41. The incidents have perplexed military analysts who are more accustomed to firing across the Line of Control (LoC) to facilitate infiltration of terrorists.

The IB is the formal border between India and Pakistan and the 700-km LoC is a line demarcated in 1972 across which troops of either side are ranged.

A terse eight-minute phone conversation between the Indian and Pakistani deputy directors of the directorate general of military operations (DDDGMO) ended with brigadiers from both sides trading accusations.

There were some reports of the Rangers holding their fire in the wake of the strong Indian response but by and large the Pakistanis responded in kind to Indian action in Arnia, Raghubir Singh Pura, Ramgarh, Samba, Akhnoor and Pargwal.

“While India has no intention of escalating situation on the Jammu border, there is no question that the Pakistanis will be allowed to go without punishment,” said a senior South Block official.

South Block sources said the Indian side was forced to open up after the Pakistan Army first violated the Line of Control in Poonch followed by their Rangers, who let loose with heavy machine guns and mortars in the Jammu sector.

The first incident happened on October 1, when the Pakistan Army targeted an Indian Army border outpost (BoP) under Mandi sub-division of Poonch sector. On October 3, the Pakistanis again fired at a BoP in Mandi, killing a 17-year-old girl and injuring four Indian civilians.

On October 3-4 night, the Pakistan Rangers decided to escalate firing to the IB and targeted an Indian BoP in Arnia sector. A Pakistani mortar shell landed in a house in Kaku de Kothey village in Arnia as a result of which two civilians sustained serious injuries. This was just the beginning.

On October 4, an Indian Army jawan was killed in an improvised explosive device blast and two others were badly hurt. The border action team of Pakistan-based terrorists had planted the device near Tiba forward post in Mendhar in Poonch sector.

Two days later, the Pakistan Rangers again opened up at the IB and targeted Indian BoPs in Arnia with heavy mortars, killing five civilians including a minor, and injuring 30 others. Since October 1, Indian BoPs in Mandi, Mendhar, Arnia, Khour, Ramgarh and Rajouri sector have been targeted by the Pakistani forces.

 

[ito]

Doesn't matter if it is 1948 or 2014. FO is doing its job at UN and army is doing its job at the borders. Good enough for us.



Your history and assessment of UN resolutions and Simla agreement is flawed and bogus.

if doesn't matter, then why go to UN?

it is no more the question of UN or Simla agreement, but all about the economy and money. and no..west would not go against india for pak.

 

[Areesh]

if doesn't matter, then why go to UN?

it is no more the question of UN or Simla agreement, but all about the economy and money. and no..west would not go against india for pak.

As I said before. It is to support the troops who are effectively countering every Indian aggression.. To provide support to those diplomatically.

What *** whopping? What major military victory you have achieved over Pakistan? Did you destroy any military posts? Any ammo depot? Any military machinery? Nothing, zero. You have absolutely achieved zero against Pakistan army.

Yes, you have killed many unarmed civilians on Pak side. People who weren't able to defend themselves. But what achievement is that? It's not brave, it's not honorable. What is there to boast about killing innocent civilians?

And if that indeed is a moment of pride for you and your military then you are nothing but low lives.

For Indians killing 12 Pakistani civilians is a major military victory against Pakistan. And yes these guys are low lives.

 

[shuntmaster]

What *** whopping? What major military victory you have achieved over Pakistan? Did you destroy any military posts? Any ammo depot? Any military machinery? Nothing, zero. You have absolutely achieved zero against Pakistan army.

Yes, you have killed many unarmed civilians on Pak side. People who weren't able to defend themselves. But what achievement is that? It's not brave, it's not honorable. What is there to boast about killing innocent civilians?

And if that indeed is a moment of pride for you and your military then you are nothing but low lives.

What Main Stream Media (MSM) will not tell you
This is based on what I have gathered from a mix of civil servants, certain political actors and significant folks within our armed services. Some of this is may perhaps be viewed as apocryphal by certain people but its from entirely trustworthy sources as far as I am concerned. Here's what's going on:
1. The PMO explicitly intervened 48 hours ago in the wee hours of Monday and asked our forces to initiate all out punitive retaliation
2. Since then our field artillery including medium 105 & 120 mm guns and 155 mm howitzers, heavy rocket batteries and 100 & 81 mm mortar units have been blasting every inch of Pakistani soil within 1 km of the border/ LoC from Kargil to Rajouri, RS Pura to Jammu
3. More than 10,000 shells have been fired and over 500,000 rounds of light and heavy machine guns
4. Pakis have suffered around 165 casualties which includes 85 military personnel. Most of the other 80 casualties are not civilian either. If you are wondering who they are, please connect the dots.
5. Approximately 80-90 Pakistani posts have been either fully destroyed or compromised severely to render them operationally ineffective
6. About 400-450 jihadis waiting to cross over have been shifted back to their staging area from forward areas
7. We have now deployed Brahmos batteries across the entire international border.
8. This is only the beginning. **** war-nuts have now scurried off to the UN and officially sought help to reign in our forces who have been given a free hand to fight effectively
9. Our armed forces are jubilant as this is the first time since 1999 that they have been given a free hand
10. Incidentally our ammunition stocks, which reached an all time precarious low under the UPA regime have now been substantially re-stocked and we have sufficient reserves to fight long engagements or intense wars
11. We have kept strike jets on standby and strike corps of the army to staging areas. Tank brigades are ditto. Western Naval Command is on full alert. This response is just in support of more than adequate border elements who are punishing Pakis and not to be construed as a war move
Do not subscribe to rubbish stories promoted in MSM by erstwhile political powers re: the PM is doing nothing. This is a national response and for the first time its being handled right. First principle: you cannot reason with Pakistan.
Incidentally, the Chinese backed down from Chumar faced with uncharacteristic aggression from our army boys who sent in 1,500 soldiers to confront 1,000 Chinese. The Chinese blinked first.
I must add that finally the Indian security establishment has begun implementing the "Aggressive Defensive" doctrine that Ajit Doval, our NSA has espoused repeatedly while he was a private citizen. This is parallel to the type of strategy used by Israel but applied on a wider and even more complex theatre."

Source: Post of the Year Nominee

 

[Windjammer]

another internet warrior.

as 10 times less resource rich, pak doesn't stand a chance against india

More like an internet Hindu, who has nowhere else to turn but a Pakistani forum to boast his tiny ego.

 

[Areesh]

What Main Stream Media (MSM) will not tell you
This is based on what I have gathered from a mix of civil servants, certain political actors and significant folks within our armed services. Some of this is may perhaps be viewed as apocryphal by certain people but its from entirely trustworthy sources as far as I am concerned. Here's what's going on:
1. The PMO explicitly intervened 48 hours ago in the wee hours of Monday and asked our forces to initiate all out punitive retaliation
2. Since then our field artillery including medium 105 & 120 mm guns and 155 mm howitzers, heavy rocket batteries and 100 & 81 mm mortar units have been blasting every inch of Pakistani soil within 1 km of the border/ LoC from Kargil to Rajouri, RS Pura to Jammu
3. More than 10,000 shells have been fired and over 500,000 rounds of light and heavy machine guns
4. Pakis have suffered around 165 casualties which includes 85 military personnel. Most of the other 80 casualties are not civilian either. If you are wondering who they are, please connect the dots.
5. Approximately 80-90 Pakistani posts have been either fully destroyed or compromised severely to render them operationally ineffective
6. About 400-450 jihadis waiting to cross over have been shifted back to their staging area from forward areas
7. We have now deployed Brahmos batteries across the entire international border.
8. This is only the beginning. **** war-nuts have now scurried off to the UN and officially sought help to reign in our forces who have been given a free hand to fight effectively
9. Our armed forces are jubilant as this is the first time since 1999 that they have been given a free hand
10. Incidentally our ammunition stocks, which reached an all time precarious low under the UPA regime have now been substantially re-stocked and we have sufficient reserves to fight long engagements or intense wars
11. We have kept strike jets on standby and strike corps of the army to staging areas. Tank brigades are ditto. Western Naval Command is on full alert. This response is just in support of more than adequate border elements who are punishing Pakis and not to be construed as a war move
Do not subscribe to rubbish stories promoted in MSM by erstwhile political powers re: the PM is doing nothing. This is a national response and for the first time its being handled right. First principle: you cannot reason with Pakistan.
Incidentally, the Chinese backed down from Chumar faced with uncharacteristic aggression from our army boys who sent in 1,500 soldiers to confront 1,000 Chinese. The Chinese blinked first.
I must add that finally the Indian security establishment has begun implementing the "Aggressive Defensive" doctrine that Ajit Doval, our NSA has espoused repeatedly while he was a private citizen. This is parallel to the type of strategy used by Israel but applied on a wider and even more complex theatre."

Source: Post of the Year Nominee

Clearly this fanboy is watching too much of Bollywood.

 

[pakdefender]

What Main Stream Media (MSM) will not tell you
This is based on what I have gathered from a mix of civil servants, certain political actors and significant folks within our armed services. Some of this is may perhaps be viewed as apocryphal by certain people but its from entirely trustworthy sources as far as I am concerned. Here's what's going on:
1. The PMO explicitly intervened 48 hours ago in the wee hours of Monday and asked our forces to initiate all out punitive retaliation
2. Since then our field artillery including medium 105 & 120 mm guns and 155 mm howitzers, heavy rocket batteries and 100 & 81 mm mortar units have been blasting every inch of Pakistani soil within 1 km of the border/ LoC from Kargil to Rajouri, RS Pura to Jammu
3. More than 10,000 shells have been fired and over 500,000 rounds of light and heavy machine guns
4. Pakis have suffered around 165 casualties which includes 85 military personnel. Most of the other 80 casualties are not civilian either. If you are wondering who they are, please connect the dots.
5. Approximately 80-90 Pakistani posts have been either fully destroyed or compromised severely to render them operationally ineffective
6. About 400-450 jihadis waiting to cross over have been shifted back to their staging area from forward areas
7. We have now deployed Brahmos batteries across the entire international border.
8. This is only the beginning. **** war-nuts have now scurried off to the UN and officially sought help to reign in our forces who have been given a free hand to fight effectively
9. Our armed forces are jubilant as this is the first time since 1999 that they have been given a free hand
10. Incidentally our ammunition stocks, which reached an all time precarious low under the UPA regime have now been substantially re-stocked and we have sufficient reserves to fight long engagements or intense wars
11. We have kept strike jets on standby and strike corps of the army to staging areas. Tank brigades are ditto. Western Naval Command is on full alert. This response is just in support of more than adequate border elements who are punishing Pakis and not to be construed as a war move
Do not subscribe to rubbish stories promoted in MSM by erstwhile political powers re: the PM is doing nothing. This is a national response and for the first time its being handled right. First principle: you cannot reason with Pakistan.
Incidentally, the Chinese backed down from Chumar faced with uncharacteristic aggression from our army boys who sent in 1,500 soldiers to confront 1,000 Chinese. The Chinese blinked first.
I must add that finally the Indian security establishment has begun implementing the "Aggressive Defensive" doctrine that Ajit Doval, our NSA has espoused repeatedly while he was a private citizen. This is parallel to the type of strategy used by Israel but applied on a wider and even more complex theatre."

Source: Post of the Year Nominee

when too much bovine feces is ingested by human being then this is the outcome

 

[ito]

More like an internet Hindu, who has nowhere else to turn but a Pakistani forum to boast his tiny ego.

isn't less ego good?....anyway pakistan is a nuisance value for india... hence any comparison with pakistan is not taken well by india.

 

[ares]

As I said before. It is to support the troops who are effectively countering every Indian aggression.. To provide support to those diplomatically.

.

How is it going for you then..has any one given a crap about your supposed diplomatic offensive?

I mean approaching UN three times and when UN did not care enough to get involved..as always there were Americans.

By now you must have loads of diplomatic support..funnily enough I do not see any world leaders expressing support for your cause?

 

[pakdefender]

How is it going for you then..has any one given a crap about your supposed diplomatic offensive?

I mean approaching UN three times and when UN did not care enough to get involved..as always there were Americans.

By now you must have loads of diplomatic support..funnily enough I do not see any world leaders expressing support for your cause?

banyay if Pakistan's diplomatic move is having no effect then why your butts are hurting so badly from it ? we are not looking for any material support as we don't need it and have the means to vaporize india a mater of a few hours, we are just playing by the book on the world stage

 

[iPhone]

What Main Stream Media (MSM) will not tell you
This is based on what I have gathered from a mix of civil servants, certain political actors and significant folks within our armed services. Some of this is may perhaps be viewed as apocryphal by certain people but its from entirely trustworthy sources as far as I am concerned. Here's what's going on:
1. The PMO explicitly intervened 48 hours ago in the wee hours of Monday and asked our forces to initiate all out punitive retaliation
2. Since then our field artillery including medium 105 & 120 mm guns and 155 mm howitzers, heavy rocket batteries and 100 & 81 mm mortar units have been blasting every inch of Pakistani soil within 1 km of the border/ LoC from Kargil to Rajouri, RS Pura to Jammu
3. More than 10,000 shells have been fired and over 500,000 rounds of light and heavy machine guns
4. Pakis have suffered around 165 casualties which includes 85 military personnel. Most of the other 80 casualties are not civilian either. If you are wondering who they are, please connect the dots.
5. Approximately 80-90 Pakistani posts have been either fully destroyed or compromised severely to render them operationally ineffective
6. About 400-450 jihadis waiting to cross over have been shifted back to their staging area from forward areas
7. We have now deployed Brahmos batteries across the entire international border.
8. This is only the beginning. **** war-nuts have now scurried off to the UN and officially sought help to reign in our forces who have been given a free hand to fight effectively
9. Our armed forces are jubilant as this is the first time since 1999 that they have been given a free hand
10. Incidentally our ammunition stocks, which reached an all time precarious low under the UPA regime have now been substantially re-stocked and we have sufficient reserves to fight long engagements or intense wars
11. We have kept strike jets on standby and strike corps of the army to staging areas. Tank brigades are ditto. Western Naval Command is on full alert. This response is just in support of more than adequate border elements who are punishing Pakis and not to be construed as a war move
Do not subscribe to rubbish stories promoted in MSM by erstwhile political powers re: the PM is doing nothing. This is a national response and for the first time its being handled right. First principle: you cannot reason with Pakistan.
Incidentally, the Chinese backed down from Chumar faced with uncharacteristic aggression from our army boys who sent in 1,500 soldiers to confront 1,000 Chinese. The Chinese blinked first.
I must add that finally the Indian security establishment has begun implementing the "Aggressive Defensive" doctrine that Ajit Doval, our NSA has espoused repeatedly while he was a private citizen. This is parallel to the type of strategy used by Israel but applied on a wider and even more complex theatre."

Source: Post of the Year Nominee

What are you talking about and what are you on? Do you really have that much time on your hands to type that all up.......conjure that all up......as a matter of fact and not back it with anything.

I could write a lengthy post on what I "feel" the kind of damage Pakistan has done to India like you have but I'm not crazy.

Who cares if your jets and other military assets are on stand by. So are ours. So you fired hundreds of mortar shells into Pakistan....... what military advantage did that achieve you is I'm asking? Yes, you shells have killed many civilians inside Pakistan, I'm not disputing that. But that is not an achievement. That is pathetic and low life behavior to be honest.

Fight the armed forces, turn your guns at the military posts, not the villages and the mud houses. Yet, every time there is civilian casualty on Pakistan side you and your countrymen come running here boasting about teaching Pak a lesson.

I guess aiming your artillery guns at 70-80 degree angle toward Pakistan and firing a few hundred mortar shells on Pakistani villages is a huge achievement and pride for you guys.

 

[Windjammer]

isn't less ego good?....anyway pakistan is a nuisance value for india... hence any comparison with pakistan is not taken well by india.

Talking big by irrelevant characters on a forum doesn't change the fact the Pakistan obsession that exists in the Indian society, in fact Pakistan bashing is a vote winner for Indian politicians, Modi was ranting same tune on Saturday at some election rally until he was gifted with three more injured BSF. The best you people can do is attack Pakistani players and actors......Lol , the Venue Warriors.

 

[Areesh]

How is it going for you then..has any one given a crap about your supposed diplomatic offensive?

I mean approaching UN three times and when UN did not care enough to get involved..as always there were Americans.

By now you must have loads of diplomatic support..funnily enough I do not see any world leaders expressing support for your cause?

Diplomacy is not always about immediate results. To propagate your position is part of diplomacy. We cleared our position. India is the aggressor and every bullet we fire is in retaliation and not an act of aggression. This is we are trying to tell the whole world and would continue to do so while our soldiers are effectively kicking the butt of the aggressor.

 

[Jaanbaz]

what do you want to say ? in last 5-6 days pakistan had more than 6 drone strikes, why not to write a letter against it also ?

Idiots like you don't understand do you? Drone strikes are sanctioned by the Army. In fact the local intelligence is given by Pakistan. In public however one have to make noises as Pakistani public is insanely Anti-USA.