Pakistan: A slice of China in Islamabad

[Hassan Guy]

Do they sell milk in glass bottles or plastic bags in China?

 

[bananarepublic]

What you are saying is true in GB i havent seen a single cpec project even tbe sost dry port is being transferred to havelien ..i mean we are the place where Pakistan is connected to china .. we should get a fair share

 

[Hassan Guy]

Im not blaming Chinese.. its the responsibility of Pak govt to look after the interests of the country.. which it is failing at!

For example, Chinese companies are for a fact screwing Pak by using loopholes in the system anywhere and everywhere possible..

Pak govt has given em facilities of tax free (zero duty) import of materials and machinery... apart from that chinese goods (cheap) are being dumped in market... all thanks to free trade agreements etc which are screwing Pak businesses.

Do you know, we even have Chinese individuals selling mobiles on roadside.. while a Pak citizen woukd get caught if he ever dared bring a few from abroad?

Pak China, trade imbalance is worrisome... we are importing a hundred times more than exporting!

While FTA & other agreements are effectively ruining local businesses which cant compete with chinese goods... due to various factors..

Dude the pak govt sucks, don't expect anything from them

 

[lastone]

India faced the situation of chinese bringing in labour under business visas around 2006-7.
The govt cracked down hard on this practise.
When u guys got your first motorway built by the Koreans , where did the labour come from ?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

A lot of countries mandate that any project being done by a foreign company needs to have a domestic partner at X% of the labor force.

Pakistan itself is filled with an educated workforce that doesn't have the experience due to deficiencies of capital to fund projects. MBAs, Engineers, Comp Sci. Some degrees are from diploma mills but even the best from NUST/LUMS/Dow/UP face uncertainty as a basis leave towards the West.

The issue is how soon can Pakistanis take over vs fears of an indentured servitude.

Same is the case in Pakistan..

Chinese companies have to sign a JV with Pak companies.

 

[Imran Khan]

why they import pork ? we have so much of local porks and wild boars .

 

[SoulSpokesman]

IK sb,

Pak pigs/wild boars maybe haram, Chinese porcines may be halaal...

Regards

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Told you so.

Ive never been a CPEC thumper.

Again im not against CPEC... but CPEC has both the potential to make or break us... depending on how GoP plays it.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

IK sb,

Pak pigs/wild boars maybe haram, Chinese porcines may be halaal...

Regards

Pakistani cows are halal you should import em

 

[Joe Shearer]

Ive never been a CPEC thumper.

Again im not against CPEC... but CPEC has both the potential to make or break us... depending on how GoP plays it.

Whether you believe it or not, my difficulties with CPEC are more to do with wishing Pakistan well than being envious and hoping that it will fail. Ever since it was created, Pakistan has held on to foreign apron-strings; whether in defence, with the Chinese currently replacing the Euro-American bloc, or in economics, with massive subvention from the oil-rich states whenever needed, or in the development of missile technology.

Once again, Pakistan has opted for the escalator instead of taking the stairs. I don't think it will work. All the monetisation of the work will flow back to China; key personnel will be Chinese; control will forever be in Chinese hands.

I am dreading another development.

If you leave aside Indian trolls and Pakistani super-patriots, and study the records and the history of the region, certain very uncomfortable facts will surface. Several of the Pamir Emirates were vassals of Kashgar; China already has a strong historical claim to the Gilgit region. Now, having invited them in, Pakistan will have to figure out how to get them out. All these articles about how strong the Chinese presence is getting in Pakistan as a whole, and all those unpublished, unprinted, untold stories about the Chinese presence in Gilgit really make my fresh creep. I am afraid that this will turn out to be another of those whirlwind courtships and romances that we have seen so often in Pakistani history, and that, as before, Pakistan will be left holding the baby.

 

[thesolar65]

Well, Is there any escape route in the Agreement?

Chutiya?.....I mean the man whose reply starts with "Chutiya" to others is now seeing the lights being shut one by one in the tunnel! And I feel sad.

After completing CPEC lets debate which one failed most? CPEC or Demonetization?

 

[MultaniGuy]

CPEC is obviously good for Pakistan. that is why it is so immensely popular in Pakistan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Whether you believe it or not, my difficulties with CPEC are more to do with wishing Pakistan well than being envious and hoping that it will fail. Ever since it was created, Pakistan has held on to foreign apron-strings; whether in defence, with the Chinese currently replacing the Euro-American bloc, or in economics, with massive subvention from the oil-rich states whenever needed, or in the development of missile technology.

Once again, Pakistan has opted for the escalator instead of taking the stairs. I don't think it will work. All the monetisation of the work will flow back to China; key personnel will be Chinese; control will forever be in Chinese hands.

I am dreading another development.

If you leave aside Indian trolls and Pakistani super-patriots, and study the records and the history of the region, certain very uncomfortable facts will surface. Several of the Pamir Emirates were vassals of Kashgar; China already has a strong historical claim to the Gilgit region. Now, having invited them in, Pakistan will have to figure out how to get them out. All these articles about how strong the Chinese presence is getting in Pakistan as a whole, and all those unpublished, unprinted, untold stories about the Chinese presence in Gilgit really make my fresh creep. I am afraid that this will turn out to be another of those whirlwind courtships and romances that we have seen so often in Pakistani history, and that, as before, Pakistan will be left holding the baby.

Again... ur peddling indian narrative...

and as for GB... I was there a few weeks back... saw a few chinese tourists... and alot of CPEC hotels aka dhabas... hoping to capitalise on CPEC....

 

[MultaniGuy]

China doesn't have a claim on Gilgit, you Indian buffoon.

 

[padamchen]

Whether you believe it or not, my difficulties with CPEC are more to do with wishing Pakistan well than being envious and hoping that it will fail. Ever since it was created, Pakistan has held on to foreign apron-strings; whether in defence, with the Chinese currently replacing the Euro-American bloc, or in economics, with massive subvention from the oil-rich states whenever needed, or in the development of missile technology.

Once again, Pakistan has opted for the escalator instead of taking the stairs. I don't think it will work. All the monetisation of the work will flow back to China; key personnel will be Chinese; control will forever be in Chinese hands.

I am dreading another development.

If you leave aside Indian trolls and Pakistani super-patriots, and study the records and the history of the region, certain very uncomfortable facts will surface. Several of the Pamir Emirates were vassals of Kashgar; China already has a strong historical claim to the Gilgit region. Now, having invited them in, Pakistan will have to figure out how to get them out. All these articles about how strong the Chinese presence is getting in Pakistan as a whole, and all those unpublished, unprinted, untold stories about the Chinese presence in Gilgit really make my fresh creep. I am afraid that this will turn out to be another of those whirlwind courtships and romances that we have seen so often in Pakistani history, and that, as before, Pakistan will be left holding the baby.

What's it to you if the Chinese take control?

If anything, they are the more reasonable foe.

I for one am rooting for them.

What is encirclement when you remove religious fanaticism of the same blood for some hard-nosed mongoloid thinking.

Cheers, Doc