Pakistan ,a country of serious concern for minorities:USCIRF

[Liquidmetal]

If there is anyone entitled to actually claim that we don't care it is Pakistan. Pakistan has officially ditched and basically told the US to piss off a very long time ago. We cannot help if the USA keeps coming back to Pakistan.

Now concentrate on RSS Hindustan which is the biggest violater of religious and basic human rights. It is funny how RSS members are mocking Pakistan when their own country is making headlines all around the world for the wrong reasons. We don't deprive millions from their identity and citizenship. We don't claim to be the biggest democracy on the planet to only mock every aspect related to democratic values. Those who do need to look in the mirror before pointing fingers at others.

The British managed and nurtured Brand India has carried them for so long. However, let us not kid ourselves, India was ripped apart due to these intolerances and the Hindutva DNA of the polity, since independence it invaded and annexed a region where the majority wanted to go Pak, has mostly enacted violations of HR throughtout the country, pretends to be secular but the fabric is Hindu, killed thousands of people in pograms, from Muslims to Christains. Has an aparthied systems where the head is admired and shudras treated like dirt, not forgetting the treatment of 3-4 hundred million dalits and untouchables. The world has ignored the treatment of women because a dynastic rule threw up a female leader so early, voted in as the sperm of nehru but gave a fig leaf to cover the hegemonic aspirations and actions since 1947, but no more. The terrorist hegemon Hindustan stands exposed and we need to keep exposing.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

the special thing about muslims is, they are 15% and the largest minority(more than 70% of all minorities), dont you think there should have been a muslim PM by now?

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regards

There is no quota system for the PMs seat. We have had Muslim presidents and other Muslims holding prominent positions in governments. When a worthy Muslim candidate is around, he/she will become the PM too. USA still hasn't ever had a woman President and it took them a while before they got a black president too.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

yes masihi, hindu, sikh , qadianis are minorities , they are not equal to muslims , they don't have right to become president , PM, army chief, governor by decree of constitution of pakistan .

Well that’s cute when you have less than 20 muslims in your National Assembly to represent 160+ million muslims?
While the ruling bjp has 0 MNAs?

What they have minorities ?????????

No we lynched them over beef.

We have SC judges, Presidents, IAS officers, foreign bureaucrats, superstar actors, producers, directors, big entrepreneurs, cricket captains, etc from minorities.

By law, minorities in Pakistan are not allowed to be chief of Army, PM, President, etc. That's discrimination at the state level itself.

How many missiles in Pakistan are named after Hindu/Buddhist kings of the region?

The restrictions is only for the seat of the head of state. And we have & had several non Muslim CJPs, Generals, actors, sportspersons etc.

As for missiles & kings, thats cute when you name yours after hindu symbols kike prithvi, agni, bhishmas etc and are into renaming cities and roads named after muslims ?

 

[Bil]

So there are no blasphemy laws in Pakistan ?

This is not the first time I get such inquiry from a kid like you, however, on this subject you have got more then enough responses already in this thread.

You can google and get tons of data on blasphemy laws in Pakistan, therefore, its utter nonsense that there are no laws in Pakistan, however, its not how west wants it. Simply put, west wants Blasphemy laws so lean in Pakistan so that every Tom, Harry and his dog gets up and start abusing Islam and our last Prophet SAW, of course which is not possible and NOT going to happen.

 

[W.11]

There is no quota system for the PMs seat. We have had Muslim presidents and other Muslims holding prominent positions in governments. When a worthy Muslim candidate is around, he/she will become the PM too. USA still hasn't ever had a woman President and it took them a while before they got a black president too.

muslim population and population share according to hindutvas themselves is increasing but their parlimentarian representation is shrinking, do you mean that the worthy muslims which can get to parliament is shrinking as well, or it has more to do with hindutva hegemoney of the system?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...f-india-inc/articleshow/48849266.cms?from=mdr

 

[ChennaiDude]

I guess you didn't see what they said about india!

Difference is India is not on the list- Pakistan already is!- First fix your problems before fixing others- Yes India has a problem and needs to be addressed internally and fixed.

 

[W.11]

Difference is India is not on the list- Pakistan already is!

and isnt the reason quite obvious as stated by the article that due to hndutva appeasement the US is unlikely to blacklist india, similarly blacklisting pakistan is purely politics.

regards

 

[Path-Finder]

First fix your problems before fixing others- Yes India has a problem and needs to be addressed internally and fixed.

how about taking and applying the advice to yourself!!

 

[ChennaiDude]

and isnt the reason quite obvious as stated by the article that due to hndutva appeasement the US is unlikely to blacklist india, similarly blacklisting pakistan is purely politics.

regards

Whats obvious to you is not obvious to the majority?- Did I not mention that India does have a serious issue with how the minorities are being treated!- All I asked is that it was Rich coming from a nation that is already on the List- Thats all!!!

how about taking and applying the advice to yourself!!

LOL- Thats what I am saying too- Both stay out of each others internal issues- Both dont have a moral high ground on the subject- (I know the both are in the same ditch- only the depth varies)

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

muslim population and population share according to hindutvas themselves is increasing but their parlimentarian representation is shrinking, do you mean that the worthy muslims which can get to parliament is shrinking as well, or it has more to do with hindutva hegemoney of the system?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...f-india-inc/articleshow/48849266.cms?from=mdr

What do you mean by shrinking. Muslim representation in parliament is not an economic trend that you can measure it on a graph. Sometimes more Muslims will have seats in parliament, sometimes less. Of course we have a party in power right now which has a reputation for being hardline on Muslims. When this government goes and go they will, the Muslims could increase also.

You can keep changing the goal posts from PM to parliamentarians etc. etc. Truth remains the same. There is no quota for such things irrespective of the population size.

We had Muslim cricket captain for many years in a game that we worship. We had Muslims stars at the top of our movie industry for many years, one legend amongst whom passed away today sadly. None of them got there because of a quota system. They got their on their own merit. When there is a meritorious candidate, this country will get a Muslim PM too. Unlike Pakistan, no law or constitution prevents our minorities from holding that post one day. Sikhs have held that post in the past. Muslims will also at some point.

 

[Path-Finder]

LOL- Thats what I am saying too- Both stay out of each others internal issues- Both dont have a moral high ground on the subject- (I know the both are in the same ditch- only the depth varies)

yea, your fellow countrymen opened the topic in glee thinking that only Pakistan was due concern, how about telling it to look inwards!

 

[W.11]

What do you mean by shrinking. Muslim representation in parliament is not an economic trend that you can measure it on a graph. Sometimes more Muslims will have seats in parliament, sometimes less. Of course we have a party in power right now which has a reputation for being hardline on Muslims. When this government goes and go they will, the Muslims could increase also.

You can keep changing the goal posts from PM to parliamentarians etc. etc. Truth remains the same. There is no quota for such things irrespective of the population size.

We had Muslim cricket captain for many years in a game that we worship. We had Muslims stars at the top of our movie industry for many years, one legend amongst whom passed away today sadly. None of them got there because of a quota system. They got their on their own merit. When there is a meritorious candidate, this country will get a Muslim PM too. Unlike Pakistan, no law or constitution prevents our minorities from holding that post one day. Sikhs have held that post in the past. Muslims will also at some point.

the population/votebank always translates into parliamentarian representation, quota system provides extra special representation to minorities where they are lacking their required numbers to be adequately represented.

i think you have no idea what are you on about?

regards

 

[Pandora]

We have a Prime Minister from relegious minority for 10 years.....no special treatment for muslims ...

Now tell how many minorities become PM or president in Pakistan

Let me know when you actualy allowed a Muslim to be Army Chief, Chief Justice or PM of India in recent history. President is a ceremonial post in India with no powers whatsoever so no nonsense of AbdulKalam.

 

[ChennaiDude]

yea, your fellow countrymen opened the topic in glee thinking that only Pakistan was due concern, how about telling it to look inwards!

Yes- Thats fair enough- That was a post opened for discussion- The first response was from you on India-His post just a follow up from yesterdays post relating to this where India was also being considered-So yes both have things to clean up. Below is your response.

I guess you didn't see what they said about india!

 

[Crixus]

Whats special with muslims , they are relegious minority like others ...
as you are referring to India , India already have chiefs of Army ,Air force and Navy chiefs from relegious minority ... tell me how many Army , airforce and Navy chiefs you had in Pakistan from any of your relegious minorities

Let me know when you actualy allowed a Muslim to be Army Chief, Chief Justice or PM of India in recent history. President is a ceremonial post in India with no powers whatsoever so no nonsense of AbdulKalam.