Pak visit for specific, narrow purpose: US Dy Secy of State

[Pak Nationalist]

“It’s for a very specific and narrow purpose, we don’t see ourselves building a broad relationship with Pakistan. And we have no interest in returning to the days of hyphenated India, Pakistan. That’s not where we are. That’s not where we’re going to be,” she said while speaking at the Ananta Aspen Centre in Mumbai.

Pak visit for specific, narrow purpose: US Dy Secy of State

“It's for a very specific and narrow purpose, we don’t see ourselves building a broad relationship with Pakistan. And we have no interest in returning to the days of hyphenated India, Pakistan,” she said while speaking at the Ananta Aspen Centre in Mumbai.

indianexpress.com

I guess the messaging from the other side is fairly clear.

She flipped once on this side of the Radcliffe line. Americans would continue to play the double game. India is too important for them today, but it does not mean that Pakistan has lost all its utility. That is simply not possible. What she said in India was to make the Indians happy. In Pakistan, she downplayed her comments. One thing, however, is sure, our importance has considerably diluted, and there, of course, was an inkling of truth to what she was selling in India.

 

[The Terminator]

Good bye. You wont be missed.

Totally wrong. Most of our civil/military elite and their families live there. And We all love Hollywood movies. We miss them a lot.
Don't know when they would give us the status of 51st state of the USA . Perhaps we would have to convert local native population into minority to be eligible for their criteria.

 

[Khan vilatey]

“It’s for a very specific and narrow purpose, we don’t see ourselves building a broad relationship with Pakistan. And we have no interest in returning to the days of hyphenated India, Pakistan. That’s not where we are. That’s not where we’re going to be,” she said while speaking at the Ananta Aspen Centre in Mumbai.

Pak visit for specific, narrow purpose: US Dy Secy of State

“It's for a very specific and narrow purpose, we don’t see ourselves building a broad relationship with Pakistan. And we have no interest in returning to the days of hyphenated India, Pakistan,” she said while speaking at the Ananta Aspen Centre in Mumbai.

indianexpress.com

I guess the messaging from the other side is fairly clear.

This is amazing Pakistan should send an undersecretary to talk a narrow conversation with her at his office and offer her tea. Every undersecretary and bellow that she meets should talk about how Pakistan is not needed in the broader conversation and talk only about Indian terrorist terrorizing the world

it should be a short tea conversation only

for added effect the tea can be from dhaba near by With biscuts

k

 

[The Terminator]

Complete waste of time and space even the demands she keep with were unrealistic and send back without anything so why would she even bother to come in the first place.. I would perfer to further cut ties with them and put them on ignore list

That's why you aren't part of the Pakistan's decision making elite

 

[The Terminator]

That is why she got a narrow recprion as well. Had it been zardari or nawaz they would be standing first in line to get PAT on the back. Say whatever you about khan he has maintained dignity of his post infront of westerners. Our previously leaders bent their arse backwards to appease Americans.

Imran Khan is the biggest scam of the history of Pakistan. He is a new hybrid Prototype capable of ruining Pakistan with the Powers of NS and Zardari combined. IK is nothing more than empty words and deceptive optics. If anyone thinks that the national interests are the primary concern for those occupying the seats of power in Pakistan is either lunatic or living in a fool's paradise.

Corruption is still rampant, even has grown in scale. Govt officials, judges and military elite alike are the beneficiaries of that status quo. I myself has lost count of medicine prices in Pakistan which in history rarely changed a bit. I really don't know how much a leaf of panadol costs today. Those words and speeches are just an eyewash to lure public into more traps.

What steps were taken to curb money laundering, smuggling, accountability of the public office holders, corporate frauds and corporate mafia, illegal acquisition of foreign debts by Govt, Police reforms, judicial reforms for fast, fare and affordable justice?? Next to none.

These are the duties of an elective legislative body (like provincial assemblies, Parliament and senate) in any civilized country.

Constructing bridges and bus stops is strictly the domain of local Govt and mayors not MNAs MPAs or cabinet or military officials.

 

[The Terminator]

Pak was with USA n USA was supper power
Pak is with China n China is supper power.
India was with soviet and result you know..
India is with USA result you all know.

Exactly. India has always been on the wrong side of the history. Pakistan on the other hand is lucky enough to be part of the dominant club

 

[GumNaam]

“It’s for a very specific and narrow purpose, we don’t see ourselves building a broad relationship with Pakistan. And we have no interest in returning to the days of hyphenated India, Pakistan. That’s not where we are. That’s not where we’re going to be,” she said while speaking at the Ananta Aspen Centre in Mumbai.

Pak visit for specific, narrow purpose: US Dy Secy of State

“It's for a very specific and narrow purpose, we don’t see ourselves building a broad relationship with Pakistan. And we have no interest in returning to the days of hyphenated India, Pakistan,” she said while speaking at the Ananta Aspen Centre in Mumbai.

indianexpress.com

I guess the messaging from the other side is fairly clear.

alas, FREE from u.s interference. this white witch of the west can take her narrow minded purpose and reduce it down to a closed minded purpose as we are just not interested in anything the u.s. has to say...good riddance!

 

[The Terminator]

I think we have to observe things with a more critical lens than this, we as a state when it really matters have not cowered to US pressure when the need is dire enough. The nukes are the best example, immense pressure, and at that time the US’ influence was even greater than today.

But elsewhere we do cave, they are still the prime military, technological, diplomatic, and economic superpower. And they only need to move the most minimal levers to cause us harm or pressure us.

Good diplomacy at times like this is vital. Our security establishment is currently aware of just how much harm the US can do at the snap of a finger, FATF and sanctions are a minor step for them, but for us it will literally lead to some hard to calculate extra number of deaths per year due to economic hardship. Morality really does take a backseat in geopolitics and diplomacy, so I think value judgements should similarly be relegated for decision making in statecraft.

Right now, the US is aligned with India, and our leverage is diminishing by the day. We don’t need to give them extra reason to come after us. What they are asking for right now according to what I’ve read, is that they want an air corridor over Pakistan to allow possible military strikes in Afghanistan whenever they wish. And they do not want us to unilaterally, or prematurely recognise the Taliban, they will only want us to do it when they themselves are on board. These issues are what the Deputy Sec. of State meant by a “specific purpose”.

And that "specific purpose" if accepted by Pakistan can again throw ourselves back to the bloodbath we recently recovered from or even perhaps on the wrong side of cold war 2.0

And this time, the US isn't even interested to give us a few peanuts in return which they used to pay us in the past.

These kind of decisions can surely lead Pakistan to existential crisis.

 

[The Terminator]

Yes - but she was met by the Army Chief and FM ..... so - shows how stupid Pakistan is - why did the Army Chief meet her ??????? How stupid was that.. I have said this before and i will say this again - the Army and the Army chief are massive problems when attempting to set foreign policy as they KEEP undermining the Goverment to satisfy their self importance at the expense of Pakistan ...

Ideally any army or Army Chief has nothing to do with foreign affairs or meeting with non military foreign officials. Army and Army Chief is the part of Pakistan's security forces which has more role in internal defense and border security than out of the way directly meeting with another govt's civil officer. She wasn't even the minister of defense of their country.

 

[Menace2Society]

Imran Khan is the biggest scam of the history of Pakistan. He is a new hybrid Prototype capable of ruining Pakistan with the Powers of NS and Zardari combined. IK is nothing more than empty words and deceptive optics. If anyone thinks that the national interests are the primary concern for those occupying the seats of power in Pakistan is either lunatic or living in a fool's paradise.

Corruption is still rampant, even has grown in scale. Govt officials, judges and military elite alike are the beneficiaries of that status quo. I myself has lost count of medicine prices in Pakistan which in history rarely changed a bit. I really don't know how much a leaf of panadol costs today. Those words and speeches are just an eyewash to lure public into more traps.

What steps were taken to curb money laundering, smuggling, accountability of the public office holders, corporate frauds and corporate mafia, illegal acquisition of foreign debts by Govt, Police reforms, judicial reforms for fast, fare and affordable justice?? Next to none.

These are the duties of an elective legislative body (like provincial assemblies, Parliament and senate) in any civilized country.

Constructing bridges and bus stops is strictly the domain of local Govt and mayors not MNAs MPAs or cabinet or military officials.

What nonsense, this is NS and Zardari's mess.

If IK was in power would Pakistan have jointed the WOT in the first place? Or even if they did, firm boundaries in place? I think so.

This clusterf**k of a relationship is the product of NS and Zardari.

 

[ARMalik]

Pak does not claim Aksi Chin. Pak do claim Indian Ladakh. Pak do not claim Shasgam Valley which was always In Chinese control. Since you did mention Wiki, then you would also know that Pak got 750 sq miles from Chinese custody in 1962.

Also I say this again. China has land/border disputes with only Bhutan and India.

There is no point in arguing with these tree monkeys, they are born liars.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Reject her visa at the airport, strip search her, and put this fucking american cunt back on the next flight.

“It’s for a very specific and narrow purpose, we don’t see ourselves building a broad relationship with Pakistan. And we have no interest in returning to the days of hyphenated India, Pakistan. That’s not where we are. That’s not where we’re going to be,” she said while speaking at the Ananta Aspen Centre in Mumbai.

Pak visit for specific, narrow purpose: US Dy Secy of State

“It's for a very specific and narrow purpose, we don’t see ourselves building a broad relationship with Pakistan. And we have no interest in returning to the days of hyphenated India, Pakistan,” she said while speaking at the Ananta Aspen Centre in Mumbai.

indianexpress.com

I guess the messaging from the other side is fairly clear.

 

[The Terminator]

To an extent I agree. But with the same reality, which civilians you had in mind, who have done the good job!!
Those who rob Pakistan and looking the opportunities to invest the looted money in the West!!
Those who double cross heir own country at any given time!!
The list is long, names are irrelevant, their deeds are important.

The honest simpleton Pakistani workforce which work abroad and send Remittances back to Pakistan that's why the US dollar haven't shot past 5000 Rupees mark till now. And Pakistani embassies there treat those hardworking volunteers foreign exchange earners of Pakistan as sub humans. If all those Pakistani workers return to Pakistan today. The entire economy would collapse within a few weeks and already soaring unemployment would skyrocket. They are the 99% of the Pakistani expatriates. The ones you talk about are normally the family members of Govt officials, politicians, civil/military elite would hardly be less than 1% of the total. And yes we are the bloody civilians who earn the bread for Pakistan so you may prosper.

Perhaps give them the due respect and right to vote and making visa, passport procedures for the public easier would be a first step in the right direction

 

[Menace2Society]

The way IK was treated by the republicans under Trump was really refreshing and thought the tide was turning.

Biden has not even spoken with IK yet. Imagine a 3rd world country democratically elects a person who has a track record of building cancer hospitals and universities and planting trees. Wouldn't they welcome such a person?

The US deep state is very unhappy with you it seems.

 

[mingle]

The way IK was treated by the republicans under Trump was really refreshing and thought the tide was turning.

Biden has not even spoken with IK yet. Imagine a 3rd world country democratically elects a person who has a track record of building cancer hospitals and universities and planting trees. Wouldn't they welcome such a person?

The US deep state is very unhappy with you it seems.

If Pakistan offered what US wants Biden will come by himself. Every political party wants to stay in US good books why not PTI? Abviously they don't want to entertain US anymore its not worth it last 20yrs told us.