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Pak population at over 235 million: Census

No work means always at home without no light. Too much heat means sex.

Bachay hi bachay. Khair, good for DHA business.
 
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SOme 100mn kifs need to be injected that they can nor reproduce .

No work means always at home without no light. Too much heat means sex.

Bachay hi bachay. Khair, good for DHA business.
Bhai kam nhi bijli nhi to darkht lagao na ja ker . PHd marny ke ilawa bhi kam hoty hain
 
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200 million sheeps, their future is robbed right in front of them, and they are sleeping.

No work means always at home without no light. Too much heat means sex.

Bachay hi bachay. Khair, good for DHA business.
Good for slave trade of the Napak generals, more kids, cheap labour for them and middle east countries.
 
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Btw, South Asia has a long way to go in terms of development, just look at what a German cartoon said about India’s population surpassing China.

With all due respect, Indians don't travel on rooftop. They find old pictures of Indian railways or pictures from neighbouring countries where people are travelling on train rooftops and think it happens even today in India even though Indian railways is one of the world's largest electrified railway system (2nd largest after China I guess).

And we have bullet trains under construction, we recently trialled RRTS as well.


India has a huge metro rail system in all big cities and counting, total cities with operational and under construction metro rail system is 22 with 5 to 6 more cities about to have them under construction.


1200 km in ropeways in small towns and areas with difficult terrain



Has the most lucrative and fastest growing commercial office market in the world, with modern central business districts growing fast among various other things.

These are just 3 of the multiple Central Business Districts India has with many upcoming, India's Grade-A office market is 3rd largest in the world, while its near zero in rest of south asia for real.

India also has more than a hundred unicorn startups while rest of south asia hardly has any.
There are some 530 companies in India with more than $1 billion market cap, rest of south asia barely has a dozen.

India attracted $84 billion foreign direct investment last year which is more than a dozen times more than rest of south asia combined.

India's investment on infrastructure upgrade and construction is unprecedented outside china. We're legit investing trillions of dollars on infrastructure.
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Whether you like it or not, Chandigarh's car sales annually is more than rest all countries in south asia, is more than half of Pakistan as well. And Chandigarh is a small Tier-2 city with just a million people and not the richest city in India.

With high economic growth India has achieved a lot and is achieving much more every year. Like we'll breach $1 trillion in exports mark next year when rest of south asia combined would barely be 10% of it.

India may not be as developed as China but it isn't as backward as rest of the sub-continent is, not many countries have been able to replicate China even in ASEAN. People might ridicule India for its dusty streets or unplanned towns and poverty etc but there are things beyond that too like the scale of 5G implementation and operationalisation while rest of south asia barely has 5G, or the digital payments revolution at unprecedented scale.

Although I understand the cartoon was trying to portray a contrast between China and India, India has done pretty well considering what it has went through all these years and will be fairly transformed by this decade. Even getting a few hours of electricity everyday in our cities used to be a luxury more than a decade ago, now we we complain if electricity goes for a few hours everyday even in villages. Things have indeed changed a lot and India is well on its way to reclaim past glory.


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With all due respect, Indians don't travel on rooftop. They find old pictures of Indian railways or pictures from neighbouring countries where people are travelling on train rooftops and think it happens even today in India even though Indian railways is one of the world's largest electrified railway system (2nd largest after China I guess).

And we have bullet trains under construction, we recently trialled RRTS as well.


India has a huge metro rail system in all big cities and counting, total cities with operational and under construction metro rail system is 22 with 5 to 6 more cities about to have them under construction.


1200 km in ropeways in small towns and areas with difficult terrain



Has the most lucrative and fastest growing commercial office market in the world, with modern central business districts growing fast among various other things.

These are just 3 of the multiple Central Business Districts India has with many upcoming, India's Grade-A office market is 3rd largest in the world, while its near zero in rest of south asia for real.

India also has more than a hundred unicorn startups while rest of south asia hardly has any.
There are some 530 companies in India with more than $1 billion market cap, rest of south asia barely has a dozen.

Whether you like it or not, Chandigarh's car sales annually is more than rest all countries in south asia, is more than half of Pakistan as well. And Chandigarh is a small Tier-2 city with just a million people and not the richest city in India.

With high economic growth India has achieved a lot and is achieving much more every year. Like we'll breach $1 trillion in exports mark next year when rest of south asia combined would barely be 10% of it.

India may not be as developed as China but it isn't as backward as rest of the sub-continent is, not many countries have been able to replicate China even in ASEAN. People might ridicule India for its dusty streets or unplanned towns and poverty etc but there are things beyond that too like the scale of 5G implementation and operationalisation while rest of south asia barely has 5G, or the digital payments revolution at unprecedented scale.

Although I understand the cartoon was trying to portray a contrast between China and India, India has done pretty well considering what it has went through all these years and will be fairly transformed by this decade. Even getting a few hours of electricity everyday in our cities used to be a luxury more than a decade ago, now we we complain if electricity goes for a few hours everyday even in villages. Things have indeed changed a lot and India is well on its way to reclaim past glory.


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The following is from an American nightly news program from 2 days ago. The following scene at the start of the video gives the impression that passengers are pouring out of the trains.

Btw, that cartoon of from German news, not something I made up. It’s the impression the world has of India. Lots of people and outdated technology. Sure india is developing, but the scale of the difference is what the world sees. It probably will be different by 2030, and even more so by 2047, but the world has its reservations as to what will be achieved in comparison to China.

Many economists promote India’s growth will be a services led and not manufacturing led. India’s peak population is expected in 2048 per UN /Lancet estimates, in which time it will be where China is now (with only a slightly better demographic picture) in terms of using up their demographic dividend but probably not technologically, primarily because the west won’t make that mistake again of sharing its technology.

One thing everyone agrees upon is the India has 25 years to make its mark. It’s now or never.

 
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The following is from an American nightly news program from 2 days ago. The following scene at the start of the video gives the impression that passengers are pouring out of the trains.

Btw, that cartoon of from German news, not something I made up. It’s the impression the world has of India. Lots of people and outdated technology. Sure india is developing, but the scale of the difference is what the world sees. It probably will be different by 2030, and even more so by 2047, but the world has its reservations as to what will be achieved in comparison to China.

Many economists promote India’s growth will be a services led and not manufacturing led. India’s peak population is expected in 2048 per UN /Lancet estimates, in which time it will be where China is now (with only a slightly better demographic picture) in terms of using up their demographic dividend but probably not technologically, primarily because the west won’t make that mistake again of sharing its technology.

One thing everyone agrees upon is the India has 25 years to make its mark. It’s now or never.

Well it doesn't really matter whats the perception of the west regarding India, they're quite bullish on India and the opinions of their BS media is good for the bin!
 
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1.It is good that population is still growing. Means that if Pak can still invest in education and healthcare, it can reap a demographic dividend.

The issue has always been the population outgrowing the budgetary resources of the government to provide its obligations.

This is unsustainable. When each decade see's the budget collections increase to support 1 new citizen but the population growth is x3 you see the consequences. Add to that the impact of corruption removing the provisions by 2.
 
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Population growth rate in Pakistan dropped to 1.8% growth, fertility from the earlier higher figure, don't know how this 235 million is calculated, on random old aggregate.

This must be lower.

And why the population is not declining as of Karachi, let the Punjab census done by PPP.
 
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That's the only field Pakistanis are good at. Useless population wasting resources and draining whatever little resources country have in form of remittances on useless imports.
You cannot reason with these people.

Same goes for countless religious figures in Turkiye or any other Muslim country to the extent that their followers will accuse you of heresy if you question their mullahs.

They will argue that Allah, Quran and our Prophet are demanding continuously rising population figures regardless of the consequences for the society and environment [which is ofc a false interpretation of the Islamic sources].

Pakistan is physically suffocating from overpopulation and a fake understanding of Islam.
 
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Population growth rate in Pakistan dropped to 1.8% growth, fertility from the earlier higher figure, don't know how this 235 million is calculated, on random old aggregate.

This must be lower.

And why the population is not declining as of Karachi, let the Punjab census done by PPP.
It's the TFR rate you should be looking at. This is at 3.8 in urban and 4.2 in rural Pakistan.

Outside of Africa and Afghanistan I don't think there are too many countries with such a high TFR.


Iran better watch out. They have a very low birth rate. I can imagine a tsunami of Afghans and Pakistanis flooding into their country in another 10 to 15 years

China won't let in Muslims in large numbers.

Europe might...

Gulf not likely...they didn't even help the Syrians....

Nigeria is infact the most scary country. I can't imagine where 1 billion Nigerians are going to go in the future.


Of course a miracle could happen and we sort out the economy to 9% growth rate year on year.....well.....
 
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It's the TFR rate you should be looking at. This is at 3.8 in urban and 4.2 in rural Pakistan.

Outside of Africa and Afghanistan I don't think there are too many countries with such a high TFR.


Iran better watch out. They have a very low birth rate. I can imagine a tsunami of Afghans and Pakistanis flooding into their country in another 10 to 15 years.

Nigeria is infact the most scary country. I can't imagine where 1 billion Nigerians are going to go in the future.
The current fertility rate for Pakistan in 2023 is 3.238 births per woman, a 1.88% decline from 2022. The fertility rate for Pakistan in 2022 was 3.300 births per woman, a 1.87% decline from 2021. The fertility rate for Pakistan in 2021 was 3.363 births per woman, a 1.81% decline from 2020.


It's Niger, where the rate of birth per women is 6.4 plus.

Nigeria's must be higher as well.
 
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This may be harsh but all the lending agencies should place strict conditions asking for progress in family planning and female labour participation when handing out any future loans to Pakistan. The Pakistan government needs to get serious about this crisis.
I still see some educated yet delusional Pakistanis supporting further population growth.
Pakistan needs drastic measures on birth control and women empowermwnt no matter how many terroist attacks they have to endure as a result.
 
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Well it doesn't really matter whats the perception of the west regarding India, they're quite bullish on India and the opinions of their BS media is good for the bin!
Bullish is relative, sure they will get decent ROI for their investment over the next 25 years (perhaps 7-8% year on year), but no one expects growth like China over the past 25 years (10+% year on year).
 
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The current fertility rate for Pakistan in 2023 is 3.238 births per woman, a 1.88% decline from 2022. The fertility rate for Pakistan in 2022 was 3.300 births per woman, a 1.87% decline from 2021. The fertility rate for Pakistan in 2021 was 3.363 births per woman, a 1.81% decline from 2020.


It's Niger, where the rate of birth per women is 6.4 plus.

Nigeria's must be higher as well.
Where did you get these fertility statistics.According to some demographical surveys fertility rate in some provinces is close to 4.

If you can't take care of 220 million people then what's going to happen when you have over 350 million

If you can't take care of 220 million people then what's going to happen when you have over 350 million
Population growth rate in Pakistan dropped to 1.8% growth, fertility from the earlier higher figure, don't know how this 235 million is calculated, on random old aggregate.

This must be lower.
It's not calculated,it's what has come out of this census.Numbers could change when final results are out.
 
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